MSI K8N Neo2 Loud Chipset Fan FIX!

[zakee00]

I have this mobo, and its as loud as a mofo with that little damn chipset fan on. my HTT is oced to 290 right now, but its usually at 270. what can I do to get rid of this little fan cooler? i dont really want to replace it, so can I just leave it unpluged? i have 5 case fans, 2 psu fans...would it keep cool? one fan is pretty much blowing air on it.
thanks alot,
Nick

EDIT: go to the bios link below, then scroll down the post until you come across another link where a guy has included a flasher. now, download WinRAR (google it), and extract the BIOS to a bootable floppy. make sure your floppy is set to boot first in BIOS, and just type "flash" in the a:/ prompt.

easy as pie, less noise!

 

[o1die]

I would just unplug it, and see if you have any stability problems. You don't want to void your warranty. I've sent several p4 boards back for rma, but my latest has had no problems yet.

 

[Icepick]

Yeah, the active cooling over the chipset sucks. I think you're going to run into stability problems when you unplug the chipset fan, especially with that overclock. Someone over at SilentPCReview tried that and it seemed to make the board unstable at stock speed.

If you're going to unplug it then please post back with your results. I'm curious about that myself.

What I did was to connect the fan to a fan controller and manually turn the speed way down. That makes it quiet enough for me.

 

[boatillo]

Someone at xtreme systems forums has made a bios that allows you to turn the chipset's fan off or set it to come on at certain temperatures.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49304


I am thinking of putting a zalman northbridge hs on mine.

 

[zakee00]

WOW i love you, ill try this now!
first i need to figure out how to flash BIOS'es lol..

 

[joelslaw]

and that you'll find here:
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/BIOS_AMI.asp

 

[sreams]

I just bought this... haven't put it on quite yet:

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/p...sp?idx=71&code=014

$5

-S

 

[zakee00]

flashed to new bios, and there is diffenately less noise. my system still roars, but there isnt the loud annoying-sounding chipset fan revvin at 5000RPM noise lol.

 

[boatillo]

Glad it worked out for ya zakee00!


sreams - where did you pick up that zalman for $5? I wanna get it for mine

 

[nealh]

beware of these modded bioses..I tried 1.41mod...and I found prime95 would crash at known stable speed...went back to 1.36b and I am 10hrs prime95 stable again at 10x255( I stopped prime95)

 

[zakee00]

i decided i really dont give a sh!t about prime95, if i can game w/o crashes then my system is stable for my needs. but thats me. 1.5 is working great so far. ill post if i experence otherwise.
btw, i was using 1.3 b4

 

[joelslaw]

Originally posted by: zakee00
i decided i really dont give a sh!t about prime95, if i can game w/o crashes then my system is stable for my needs.

I agree there, BUT prime95 is still a very usefull tool for finding and diagnosing probs. If you can't run prime95 for 2 or 3 hours, chances are you're probably having or going to have crashing, lockups, etc. in your games. It's just a way to test your machine without the frustration of looseing game data, saves, etc.

 

[nealh]

I agree joeslaw..I have a p42.4@2.9..never ran Prime95 ..but always seemed stable...but I would get random(and rare) winxp pro issue..could have been software related too....I can game on it forever, video encode for hrs with no issues but Prime95 ..no go

I have no idea whether to go for more o/c on my A64 3200..since 2600 seems fine for all things except prime95.....in fact 2700 maybe ok as well

 

[joelslaw]

thats weird. does prime95 flake immediately? prime95 is more prone to crash obviously because it taxes the system more than any "real" program is likely to, but if it's crashing within the first few minutes, I would think it might be a software issue. maybe a conflict with drivers? have you ever run p95 at stock speeds?

 

[nealh]

at 10x255 it runs prime95 for 10hrs....I stopped it...

with 1.41mod bios it would crash in 5 min

at 10x260, within 5min to 1hr.....10x270 with couple min..clearly the cpu is unhappy

 

[joelslaw]

hmmm, but it runs everything else fine? ....... crazy

 

[zakee00]

yeah joelslaw, totally agree. i ran run prime test 3 for about 2 hours then i get an error, but that might actually been the memory cuz prime test 1 passed for 8 hrs then i quit, but test 2 and 3 failed. then i ran memtest and it failed at 200%, but i loosened the timings and now its goin strong at 800% no errors. so ill try prime tonight with the looser timings, see how it goes.
weird thing is, my mem is operating at 240MHz w/ 166 devider, and it failed memtest at its rated timings for DDR500.... oh well, basicly nil performance decrease.

nick

EDIT: WTH, i just failed memtest again at 830%. mem is running at 240MHz, and im using LOOSER then rated timings for DDR500!
i just set the devider to 133, so now im at 186MHz and mid-tight timings. lets see how it goes *crosses fingers*
if memtest fails, im assuming its becasue the cpu is clocked too high.

 

[nealh]

Joeslaw..
at 2600 it seems stable at winxp apps..I gamed for awhile, converted video with clonedvd and burnt dvds,etc seems very stable..but as I have found with my p42.4@2.9 (which was rock stable doing any app or game) it would crash prime95 within minutes(occasionally I had winxp crashes or lockups but who knows whether that is 1.5 yr old winxp install ... never had BSOD till I ram my ram too high or o/ced too far to 3.0ghz)...

I have found O/Cs I thought where windows ok with app but failed prime 95 and later found I was not really stable...I have an AthlonXP 1700@1650...seemed great with games..I burned cds etc..well I found my cd music where all screwed up first I thought it was the media(crappy cmc) well my cpu at 1650 on 150fsb was corrupting data..I could drop back to 148 and it was perfect..so I settled at 145fsb and 1600(I still can not run prime95 on this system but it running over 3yrs at 1600 smooth as silk with no other issues)

but on my A64 3200 winny @2550 I am 10hrs stable on Prime95 I am sure it would have gone longer..who knows how long but I felt that was long enough and I wanted to run my computer and do stuff

I realize Prime95 is real good test of "true/real hghly stressed stability" but at least daily common computer use..games , video encoding converting dvd to avi(took 4hrs or more) I was 100% stable on my Intel P2.4@2.9 and my AthlonXP 1700@1600mhz....I alawys felt that was perfect for me..so long as there where no data issues or game problems...I was fine...but for the first time I fell I have a good and really tested o/c that is stable

at least until winxp gets bloated

also that does not mean I will not go back up to say 2600 or more and see if I am app/game stable...and stay there for the pyschology of having a faster cpu...pretty stupid...

for now I am Prime95 stable for 10hrs at 2550

 

[nealh]

How do you get to use prime test 1, 2, 3 etc...

I had my 3200@2600 running at test called P-1 for 3.5hrs once with no crashes, stopped and restarted another 2 hrs later with no crashes...but it would fail the lucas-lehmer test at 2600 within minutes...this p-1 test came later

 

[zakee00]

when u press torture test, there is 3 options. pick one. usually i do test 2 for 8 hrs, and then run memtest for about 1000%
but if u do test 2 make sure to run memtest also because test 2 dosnt really test the memory.

 

[nealh]

thanks

 

[joelslaw]

Originally posted by: zakee00
EDIT: WTH, i just failed memtest again at 830%. mem is running at 240MHz, and im using LOOSER then rated timings for DDR500!
i just set the devider to 133, so now im at 186MHz and mid-tight timings. lets see how it goes *crosses fingers*
if memtest fails, im assuming its becasue the cpu is clocked too high.

Hate to play devil's advocate, but don't rule out the posibility that your ram is bad.

Originally posted by: nealh
my A64 3200 winny

winny heh heh heh, not sure why, but that cracks me up! :laugh:

Originally posted by: nealh
How do you get to use prime test 1, 2, 3 etc...

zankee is right about how, but make sure you have the newest version, cuz I'm not sure some of the older ones had this.

Originally posted by: nealh
I realize Prime95 is real good test of "true/real hghly stressed stability"

Straight from the horses mouth; This is in one of the readme type files that comes with p95:

"CAN I IGNORE THE PROBLEM?
-------------------------

Ignoring the problem is a matter of personal preference. There are
two schools of thought on this subject.

Most programs you run will not stress your computer enough to cause a
wrong result or system crash. If you ignore the problem, then video games
may stress your machine resulting in a system crash. Also, stay away from
distributed computing projects where an incorrect calculation might cause
you to return wrong results. Bad data will not help these projects!
In conclusion, if you are comfortable with a small risk of an occasional
system crash then feel free to live a little dangerously! Keep in mind
that the faster prime95 finds a hardware error the more likely it is that
other programs will experience problems.

The second school of thought is, "Why run a stress test if you are going
to ignore the results?" These people want a guaranteed 100% rock solid
machine. Passing these stability tests gives them the ability to run
CPU intensive programs with confidence."

Guess it just comes down to what kinda person you are (well that or how much time / money / effort you have, and want to spend fixing the prob.

 

[nealh]

It is a real funny thing..some of the winchesters are failing prime95 at default..fairly common...so there maybe a cpu issue and not everyone system being screwed up...

but I have tried everything to have a faster Prime95 stable computer but it seems 2550 is the limit..it maybe my ram is a factor but do I want to buy new ram to test the theory...no thanks that gets to expensive...

so even thogh I seem to be stable in apps at 2600..the 50 mhz is more pyscological....the bummer was I really thought I might get a better o/cer based on reports..but the the week 44 3200 are not doing so hot....

I heard a extremesystems the week 48 maybe better..but it is always YMMV..I just never to seem to buy a good one...

 

[zakee00]

guys...I DID IT! got my winny (hehe) to 2.61GHz! it was the ram. it wasnt bad, but i just had to set a 133 devider and im at 193MHz 2.5-3-3-6. kinda sucks, since its ddr500 ram good for 250MHz 2.5-4-4-7. now im totally prime95 stable, 12 hrs and i quit it

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: nealh
It is a real funny thing..some of the winchesters are failing prime95 at default..fairly common...so there maybe a cpu issue and not everyone system being screwed up...

but I have tried everything to have a faster Prime95 stable computer but it seems 2550 is the limit..it maybe my ram is a factor but do I want to buy new ram to test the theory...no thanks that gets to expensive...

so even thogh I seem to be stable in apps at 2600..the 50 mhz is more pyscological....the bummer was I really thought I might get a better o/cer based on reports..but the the week 44 3200 are not doing so hot....

I heard a extremesystems the week 48 maybe better..but it is always YMMV..I just never to seem to buy a good one...

just try setting your ram devider really low, beause the ram was the LAST thing i thought would be holding me back, but it turns out, it was the thing that was holding me back. i was wondering why i kept failing prime like 2hrs into it, that wouldnt sound like a processor problem. then, i ran memtest and the memory was getting errors!