MSI K8N Neo4 nForce4 Ultra Socket 939

[Toad21]

Originally posted by: glassvial

Originally posted by: Toad21
What are you talking about? Try to speak coherently please.

I wanted to flash the bios, but it died before I had a chance to.

You have some recommendations?

And yes I read this post, but its hard to scan through 44 pages.... Any advice?

Wow you're more Wee Todd Did than I thought

Two words: print view. That goes for you as well, thinlizzie. You can read this entire thread in about 20 mins if you PAY ATTENTION and stop being LAZY.

I read this entire thread 2-3x (thanks to print view), and I'm quite glad I did. I have one of my 2 boards up and running great on modified bios 1.c/Athlon 4000+. Waiting on a video card for the second board.

Ok, can you sum up what will get this working? Im guessing I need a low end PCI express video card, and to flash the bios to the one you are reccomending. You could have saved your time mocking me and just given me the advice that I asked for

LTM

 

[GeezerMan]

I got mine to post fine with a 6800GS card. Not a high end card, but what I would consider a middle of the road card. Maybe it's some ram problems.
Oh, it also works fine with a 7600GT card.

 

[Toad21]

Ok just tell me what page the answer is on... GOD try helping

 

[glassvial]

Wow, do you want us to wipe your ass and spoon feed you too? Do you really need generic troubleshooting suggestions, because here's some basics for the newbs:

Try another power supply, hit the reset cmos button, try moving the memory around or other memory, pci video card (keep it basic/simple), reseat everything, try it OUTSIDE the case, don't hookup anything but a keyboard

I setup my boards on a flat surface, on an old abit cardboard mobo box and a power supply, an old keyboard, and the memory I was planning on using. I used an old voodoo3 pci video card. Arctic silver'ed the HSF/CPU. I flashed the bios with a floppy (yeah, this is all old school, but guess what? old school still works!)

Not sure what else to tell you, if I had the board in front of me I could plugin my POST card and tell you more

 

[rip]

just sent my complaint to uBid. I believe the uBid boards are the same MS-7125-BULK boards from Geeks. The boards are NOT nForce 4 Ultra as advertised and therefore NOT SATA II 3.0GB/s among other things. They ARE nForce 4 boards. Without reading the whole 40 someodd pages am I correct in this???

 

[GeezerMan]

Right on Glassvial. If any of us knew the certain answer, such as: " It's on page 6, paragraph 4" off of the top of our heads, I'm sure we would say so. Otherwise, we have to search like anyone else.
Having a good attitude helps too. Kids...geezzz...instant gratification...a good spanking might help

 

[thinlizzie]

Tower, I flashed to the 1D, and still no luck. With the 8800gtx I still get nothing and with my crap PCI vid card at least I get to see the spaceship/MSI logo instead of that Fujitsu crud.

Glass, go shove it up your you know what. I get so tired of being patronized by 16 year olds that have a great amount of knowledge n a single space (pc's) but don't have one ioda of the people skills it takes to effectively transfer that knowledge in a way that makes others feel even slightly good about themselves.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem, so shove off already. This endeavor is frustrating enough as it stands without your condecending attitude.

Funny thing is this - I guarantee if you were standing here next to me you wouldn't have the nerve to talk the way you do, but since you can hide in your bedroom behind your monitor it makes you invincible and cocky somehow.

I read every reply in this thread at least three times through already, so don't hand me this LAZY crap of yours.

 

[kenton]

Yeah... I knew it was my board when neither a 7950GT or X1950XT would play nice. Seems others are having some of the issues I had, but at least I made it to Windows.

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: thinlizzie
Funny thing is this - I guarantee if you were standing here next to me you wouldn't have the nerve to talk the way you do, but since you can hide in your bedroom behind your monitor it makes you invincible and cocky somehow.

You obviously don't know me very well

 

[thinlizzie]

Actually, I think I do.

 

[Modular]

Some interesting developments for me...

Upon installing my Hauppauge PVR 150 the board stopped letting me into Windows. I uninstalled all drivers and whatnot and got it to work again. I reinstalled the drivers again and it's been flaky: It will get to the loading screen where the blue bar runs by and sit there forever at times. The blue bar just keeps whooshing by. If I power the machine down entirely, then power it back up I can get into Windows without a problem. If I simply "restart" the machine, it will hang on the Windows load screen again.

Another thing I noticed when trying to figure out this sporadic inability to boot Windows was that my SATA 7200.10 Seagate drive is listed on my toolbar under the "Safely Remove Hardware" symbol...WTF is that all about. That shouldn't be there. I checked the BIOS and the HDD is listed under IDE...it's a SATA drive. So I'm quite confused.
If you notice in the 1D BIOS, there is no listing for SATA drives. You can turn on the SATA 1&2 and 3&4 banks, but for some reason all the drives are listed as IDE in the top BIOS menu.

Is anyone else using a SATA drive in this MOBO?

I looked up teh driver for the HDD in Device Manager and it says it's a Windows Driver dated 7-2001.

Is there an updated Nforce SATA driver I could use?

Thanks.

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: kenton
Yeah... I knew it was my board when neither a 7950GT or X1950XT would play nice. Seems others are having some of the issues I had, but at least I made it to Windows.

It appears to be a known issue that the 7950's don't work with these boards, check the MSI forums. Might shed some light with OTHER people have issues as well

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: thinlizzie
Actually, I think I do.

Actually, I think you don't. But that's ok, not my problem, can't see it from my house.

 

[rip]

WOW, I think after 45 pages I can conclude this deal was NOT HOT! lol, anyone want to buy mine before I install it???

 

[glassvial]

What's not hot about it? These boards ARE Nforce4 Ultra's.

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: Modular
Some interesting developments for me...

Upon installing my Hauppauge PVR 150 the board stopped letting me into Windows. I uninstalled all drivers and whatnot and got it to work again. I reinstalled the drivers again and it's been flaky: It will get to the loading screen where the blue bar runs by and sit there forever at times. The blue bar just keeps whooshing by. If I power the machine down entirely, then power it back up I can get into Windows without a problem. If I simply "restart" the machine, it will hang on the Windows load screen again.

I've got a Hauppauge card in one of my machines. To say it's touchy would be putting it mildly. MAKE SURE you've got the latest drivers from Hauppauge and follow their directions closely, that's about all you can do.

Another thing I noticed when trying to figure out this sporadic inability to boot Windows was that my SATA 7200.10 Seagate drive is listed on my toolbar under the "Safely Remove Hardware" symbol...WTF is that all about. That shouldn't be there. I checked the BIOS and the HDD is listed under IDE...it's a SATA drive. So I'm quite confused.
If you notice in the 1D BIOS, there is no listing for SATA drives. You can turn on the SATA 1&2 and 3&4 banks, but for some reason all the drives are listed as IDE in the top BIOS menu.

Is anyone else using a SATA drive in this MOBO?

I looked up teh driver for the HDD in Device Manager and it says it's a Windows Driver dated 7-2001.

Is there an updated Nforce SATA driver I could use?

Thanks.

Not using SATA, yet, but you did load the latest Nforce4 (AMD) chipset drivers, right? 6.86 I believe is the latest as of this posting.

 

[rip]

I ran across these:
Link1
Link2
I'm just confused at this point...

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: rip
I ran across these:
Link1
Link2
I'm just confused at this point...

Already answered earlier in this thread: Here

Note it's not EXACTLY that board, as it was modified for/by MSI for/by Fujitsu-Siemens.

 

[GeezerMan]

Yes, SATA works for me just fine. Some people prefer the Windows drivers over the Nvidia drivers. Lots of problems with Nforce HDD drivers, even though it works for me on this board. The appearance of the SATA drive in the safely remove hardware is normal, I'm told.

 

[imported_maildude]

sata drive works fine for me also. Not listed in my safely remove hardware

 

[Modular]

Glassvial,

I'm not using the latest (at least I'm pretty sure I'm not). I'm using the ones that were posted in the MSI link off of the Geeks site for this board.

Should I update?

Geezer,

Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to think that I had improperly installed the HDD. One thing I do notice is that the Event Viewer shows a code 51 "An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation."

When I let Windows tell me more about this error code it says that the drive may be going bad and that I should replace. That seems sketchy to me. It's a newish drive (3 or 4 months old), and while that doens't rule out the possibility of it being bad, I just pulled it from my Dell where it has been working flawlessly. So I'm pretty convinced that the errors are just a symptom of a bad driver or somehting.

Maildude,

Are you using the most recent drivers that Glassvial was talking about? I can't understand why I would want my HDD to be in the safely remove hardware list, but it's there

 

[Towermax]

Originally posted by: Modular

Is anyone else using a SATA drive in this MOBO?

I looked up teh driver for the HDD in Device Manager and it says it's a Windows Driver dated 7-2001.

Is there an updated Nforce SATA driver I could use?

Thanks.

I'm using two SATA hard drives and 1 SATA DVD-RW on this board. One drive is an SATA 74GB WD Raptor and the other is a 160GB SATA II Seagate (either 7200.9 or 7200.10, I forget which).

The SATA II drive is performing at SATA II speeds according to HD Tach. Which doesn't mean much--but the 245 burst rate is in SATA II territory.

I'm using the same Windows Driver dated 7-2001. I think most people would advise you not to use the nVidia IDE drivers (on this or other NF4 board.) Stick with the Windows driver--you won't get any improvement with the nVidia drivers and most like will get a lot of trouble.

 

[glassvial]

Originally posted by: Modular
Glassvial,

I'm not using the latest (at least I'm pretty sure I'm not). I'm using the ones that were posted in the MSI link off of the Geeks site for this board.

Should I update?

Geezer,

Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to think that I had improperly installed the HDD. One thing I do notice is that the Event Viewer shows a code 51 "An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation."

When I let Windows tell me more about this error code it says that the drive may be going bad and that I should replace. That seems sketchy to me. It's a newish drive (3 or 4 months old), and while that doens't rule out the possibility of it being bad, I just pulled it from my Dell where it has been working flawlessly. So I'm pretty convinced that the errors are just a symptom of a bad driver or somehting.

Maildude,

Are you using the most recent drivers that Glassvial was talking about? I can't understand why I would want my HDD to be in the safely remove hardware list, but it's there

I would update, however I would also (just to be safe) snag the disk diag program from Seagate and run it, just to be sure your drive is ok! There's a high drive failure rate within 6 months, then once they get past that, they usually are ok for years. Mind you, this is generally speaking, there's no exacting formula for hard disk failure.

Also when you install the latest nvidia chipset drivers, you don't have to install the IDE drivers. During install, when every option is checked, and you hit next>next> etc, there comes a point where it asks you, "do you want to install the nvidia IDE SW driver" (or something like that) yes/no, choose no, and continue from there. Additionally, I did not choose to install the nvidia firewall when it asked, either.

 

[Boobers]

I have a 8800GTS running in this board flawlessly with the 1c BIOS.

My Opteron 170@2.6Ghz w/ 1G ram scores 8601 in 3Dmark06.

It also runs Orthos on both cores for 24hrs stable.

I attribute that to the OCZ 700W PSU...voltage regulation on this board is not the best, IMHO.

 

[imported_maildude]

OK Here's what my device manager says. ST380811A SATA Device Driver provider: Microsoft. Driver date: 6/21/2006. Driver Version: 6.0.6000.16386. Digital Signer: microsoft windows. I should tell you I am running vista home premium and it has worked great.