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chizow

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Originally posted by: Assimilator1
I found on my C2D I didn't have to touch VTT but on my quad it was essential to get it over ~300MHz FSB.

QFT.

Finally got around to getting a Q6600 as it seems Intel is delaying Penryn and any potential price drops. I got a pretty nice SLACR Batch 37B, hand-picked and supposedly a great OCer. VID is 1.2V but then I got around to messing with it and found its nothing like OC'ing my C2D. Requires a lot more juice all around really, although I may go back and adjust some things downward.

But ya the biggest thing is I had to set VTT to 20% to even boot into Windows or avoid IRQ errors, Vcore is +.125 for 1.325 total and NB is at 1.50V. Still, having trouble pushing FSB on this board but I've seen some people successfully negotiate 430+. Are people just skipping the FSB hole @400MHz and dropping their multiplier? I can hit 1550MHz but anything around 1600MHz is either no boot or unstable. Testing 9 x 375 (1500) = 3.375GHz and so far so good, although I'd like to try and go higher.

Temps are good so far, 28C idle, 55-58C after an hour of Prime95.
 

chizow

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OK, turns out this thing needs quite a lot of juice for me to hit 3.5GHz+ stably. Either the board or my PSU has pretty significant Vdroop, @0.05 so 1.40V = 1.35V under load etc. After browsing ExtremeSystems forums, its pretty common to run these at 1.3V for 3.6GHz and 1.4V for 3.8GHz. I'm about one Vcore/speed bump lower than that with this board but no biggy.

After raising NB to 1.5V (max), SB to 1.6V, VTT to 20% (max) only thing left was to raise Vcore which allowed me to POST and Boot to 3.6+GHz and 400MHz+. I can't get anything over 3.6 and 400 stable in Prime small FFT torture though as system quickly BSODs.

Was stable overnight with 1580FSB (395) for 3.558GHz with everything above set the same but Vcore to +.1875 so it seems that's my max due to FSB limitations. Pretty happy with that, although I know this batch and VID have been known to go higher on less voltage.

Very happy with the CPU and replacing the board to get a higher OC is out of the question since I've finally got it stable with my X-Fi, 8GB and 4 dimms populated. Only thing that makes me wonder is how much higher I could've gone with my C2D E6400 if I knew tweaking the VTT and core voltage increased FSB and OC stability.
 

imported_Excal

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Hey guys im having trouble getting my e6600 2.4 on msi platinum 650i mb to 3.6 everything starts up fine cs 1.6 runs fine when i play css i crash and i cant run orthos for more then 10 secs i get errors on small cpu stress test i have the following voltages

Core 1.464
NB 1.5 max
SB 1.5
VTT 0%
ram 2.10


i have 3 gigs of pc2-6400 G.skill F2-6400PHU1 timings at 400MHZ 1:1 4-4-4-12

any suggestions to get this core stable at 3.6 =)


Running Win.XP BIOS ver1.5

my Core Temp on idle at 3.6 is 25C
 

chizow

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Raise your VTT%, it helps immensely. Also you may need to drop your FSB slightly, I'm not able to do 400MHz on mine without crashes.
 

imported_Excal

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well i wanna get to 3.6 need 1600Fsb with 9X mulitiplier i know this is possible well i think it is to run 100% stable at 3.6 you think upping my VTT say 0% to about 6% or 10% it might stablize?
 

Sleepy7792

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Dec 30, 2007
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Great thread guys, quick question about temps you have experienced. I have an e6600 oc'd to 3.0 Ghz on an MSI P6N-SLI Plat, I am getting the following temperatures and just wanted to know if these seem normal (they seem low to me):

TAT, Idle = 30C, Load = 34C
Core Temp, Idle = 29C, Load =33C
MSI Dual Core Center, Idle = 25C, Load = 29C

I am using a couple of hours of hard BF2 playing to measure my load temps.

I am using air cooling (Zalman 9500) and this pc is in my basement office (ambient temp around 65F/18C), I have four 80mm case fans (two blowing in on front and top and back blowing out). Cooler Master PSU with 120mm and BFG 7950GT, I am also using the NB fan provided and have only bumped the NB and CPU voltage slightly.

Do these seem correct? From everything I have read they seem low? Should I be using any other temperature utilities?

Thanks for any input, this thread has been very helpful for my first overclock!!
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: Excal
well i wanna get to 3.6 need 1600Fsb with 9X mulitiplier i know this is possible well i think it is to run 100% stable at 3.6 you think upping my VTT say 0% to about 6% or 10% it might stablize?

I needed to raise VTT to 20% (max) to go over ~3.3GHz, but try a little bit at a time. I know 3.6 and 9x400 is achievable on many Q6600 G0 steppings, but many of those are P35/965 boards that do 400+ FSB much easier than this one. Not sure if its a board/core revision but mine will not do 400+ stably, even if I drop the multiplier and core clock.

Originally posted by: Sleepy7792
Great thread guys, quick question about temps you have experienced. I have an e6600 oc'd to 3.0 Ghz on an MSI P6N-SLI Plat, I am getting the following temperatures and just wanted to know if these seem normal (they seem low to me):

TAT, Idle = 30C, Load = 34C
Core Temp, Idle = 29C, Load =33C
MSI Dual Core Center, Idle = 25C, Load = 29C

I am using a couple of hours of hard BF2 playing to measure my load temps.

I am using air cooling (Zalman 9500) and this pc is in my basement office (ambient temp around 65F/18C), I have four 80mm case fans (two blowing in on front and top and back blowing out). Cooler Master PSU with 120mm and BFG 7950GT, I am also using the NB fan provided and have only bumped the NB and CPU voltage slightly.

Do these seem correct? From everything I have read they seem low? Should I be using any other temperature utilities?

Thanks for any input, this thread has been very helpful for my first overclock!!

Those temps look fine but I'd run Prime 95 Small FFT torture test if you want to really test temps under load. 30C idle is fine though, but under Prime that can get much higher as games don't often stress the CPU enough to test temps.
 

Sleepy7792

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Thanks Chizow, just ran Prime 95 for about 12 hours and never went above 44C. Nice rig btw!!!

Also, a question for the more learned, I'm a complete novice to Oc'ing and have read all I can find, can someone explain the relationship between the CPU and memory better for me (or point me to something that does)? I think I get the basics but I am slightly confused when it comes to the ratio between the two, is it bad to not run them linked (1:1)? Am I losing system performance by running 5:6? None of the threads or articles I have found really explain it well. Sorry for another n00b question!
 

Puffnstuff

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Have any of you guys who switched from an e6400 to a q6600 had any issues? I swapped yesterday and I've seen weird stuff even running at stock speeds. I've had real issues with playing source games and even crysis since installing the q6600.
 

WT

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CPU-z 1.4x reports the multi incorrectly on this board. I ran into that issue earlier this week, watching my multi bump around from 6 back to 9 every so often, and I have all power saving turned off, so that isn't it. Going back to CPU-z 1.338 fixed the problem. I'm back in my 'daring mode' shooting for 3.6 w/ a 1600 fsb. CPU is also fluctuating between 1.29 and 1.19 using CPU-z. It seems like I have some breathing room to bump that up, as my temps aren't getting over 31c idle.

Anyone running an 8400 yet ?? I'm hoping that the Q9450 will work with this board and save me a full upgrade, but that remains to be determined. Very nice board and I have no regrets after seeing what my CPU is capable of.
 

noobish

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chizow what is ur temp @3.5ghz?

I've been trying to stable mine at 3.6 on the Q6600 GO. It'll let me boot into window but idle temp is already around 45-50c on all the cores. Ran Orthos and temp went to 75C = bad? i think. Looking forward to be around 70c load.

Setting allow to load in window (havent ran any test yet)
CPU: Q6600 GO (Tuniq cooling)
Vcore : 1.43
FSB: 1600
NB: 1.5V
SB: 1.5V
VTT: 8%

I really just want 3.5ghz stable and fair temp reading and ill be happy. Right now i'm going to try your setting see how it work out for me. I really hope it does cuz im getting tire
 

chizow

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Posting to update New 1.06 BIOS for P6N Platinum. You may have to try a few of the server links, I used #5 I believe as the first few were very slow and returning shell downloads without any data. About to install it now, I'm hoping they added support for new 45nm parts, which should hopefully translate into more FSB stability.

Originally posted by: noobish
chizow what is ur temp @3.5ghz?

I've been trying to stable mine at 3.6 on the Q6600 GO. It'll let me boot into window but idle temp is already around 45-50c on all the cores. Ran Orthos and temp went to 75C = bad? i think. Looking forward to be around 70c load.

Setting allow to load in window (havent ran any test yet)
CPU: Q6600 GO (Tuniq cooling)
Vcore : 1.43
FSB: 1600
NB: 1.5V
SB: 1.5V
VTT: 8%

I really just want 3.5ghz stable and fair temp reading and ill be happy. Right now i'm going to try your setting see how it work out for me. I really hope it does cuz im getting tire

My temps with CPUID Hardware Monitor are 40-44C idle, 58-63C load @1.42V. VTT% is maxed at 20% though. I've had an impossible time getting this board anywhere close to stable @400MHz FSB.

But ya I think 75C load is kinda high, depends on what you're using to monitor temps also. I also lapped my CPU and Tuniq when I replaced the bolt. It normalized my core temps between the 4, I used to get 8-10C spread and now I only have 2-4C spread. The IHS on the Quad really tells the story as you'll see varying amounts of copper/nickel as you lap it.
 

clevername2000

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I just bougt this mobo with an e8400. For about a week i have had it running at 4.0ghz. Now it seems its stable at 3.8ghz

Anyone have this CPU and if so what are you settings?
 

clevername2000

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Quick question, how do you raise the VID voltage? I am reeading fourms that say my e8400 needs higher VID to get 4.0ghz stable
 

toekneeb80

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I would really like to set the FSB @ 1600 because that would give me a 1:1 ratio. Is there some voltages I have to mess with? Do I have to lower my ram timings? I can get it up to 1550 on stock voltages with memory timings @ 4-4-4-12 just fine but that gives me a 15:16 ratio... but @ 1600 it fails to boot. I also tried 1575 same result, no boot. I've looked at alot of forums and can't find someone with this board and my CPU so I can just copy setting.
 

patgwashere

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Mar 29, 2008
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specs:
p6n sli platinum
q6600 b3 stepping
4x1gb corsair ram pc6400
arctic freezer pro 7

i finally got a stable 3.0ghz using the following settings

fsb 1333
ram 1:1 at 667 voltage at 1.95(ram is rated at 1.9 but have 4 sticks so gave it a little more)
nb voltage 1.35
southbridge standard
fsb vtt 8%
cpu voltage added one step up (sorry forgot what this gives)
i tried many different configs in bios to get 1333 fsb and
it seems to me that 2 most important settings are fsb vtt which needs to be raised to at least 8% and north bridge setting which for me needs 1.35. cpu voltage only needed a little voltage increase(one step up)
i am stable running prime 95 small tests for hours and temps in core temp (tjunction temps)never exceed 67C
Intel rates the b3 at 62C Tcase which would be about 75-80 Tjunction so my temps are safe.

 

ugzz

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Mar 31, 2008
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p6n sli platinum
e4300 1.8ghz stock
2x 1gb corsair xms2
thermaltake big typhoon

ram 1:1
cpu 1.45
nb: 1.4
sb: default
vtt: 4%
Current overclock 3.25Ghz (not bad for a e4300 imo)
Runs HOT though, course it does, stock is 1.8! lol
i see 70s at full load
probably not awesome ot run it that hot all the time, but eh, its 100% stable so screw it

just bought a 8800gts OC to go with it (320mb version)

i also want to say that i love how many people joined this forum just to post on this thread.
Thanks google!
 

patgwashere

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i have 3150ghz stable with these settings:
fsb 1400
ram 700
voltage .035
northbridege 1.35
southbridge standard
fsb vtt 8%
RAM AT RATED 1.8
CIE ENABLED YES WORKS WITH ENABLED SO I LEFT IT ON.

q6600 GO stepping with 1.325 vid ( according to core temp.)
ran prime 95 for 3 hours with no errors and temps never exceeded 60c
in core temp.
 

Edge1

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Originally posted by: ugzz
i also want to say that i love how many people joined this forum just to post on this thread.
Thanks google!

Hey I'm one of those guys too:laugh: (see first page of this thread).

Stable as a rock a year later. Happily at 2.8 after getting to 3.0 for a while. Backed off cause 3.0 wasn't really necessary, IMHO.

Question: does the latest BIOS make this board compatible with 45nm processors? I get the feeling that the answer is "no".
 

iluv2fly

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Originally posted by: Edge1
Originally posted by: ugzz
i also want to say that i love how many people joined this forum just to post on this thread.
Thanks google!

Hey I'm one of those guys too:laugh: (see first page of this thread).

Stable as a rock a year later. Happily at 2.8 after getting to 3.0 for a while. Backed off cause 3.0 wasn't really necessary, IMHO.

Question: does the latest BIOS make this board compatible with 45nm processors? I get the feeling that the answer is "no".



Here is the Official CPU support page

The new Wolfdale E series are supported.

Who knows. Maybe the next bios will support the Yorkfield Q series to
 

Edge1

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Sweet man, thanks:beer:. Didn't mean to be lazy, shoulda tracked that down on my own:roll:.
 

iluv2fly

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I added a BFG GTX280.

$359 including shipping from Buy.com (after all rebates).

Here is my config. Intel E4300@3300mhz. 4GB OCZ DDR2 800mhz, 1xGTX280 OCX

13126 3dmark06

E37375 3dmark Vantage

3dmark Vantage Score

My rig is bottlenecked by my CPU :-(

My Antec TPII-550W Could not handle the load.

I bought a Corsair TX750W for $89 including shipping after rebates at Buy.com. Works perfect! Very quiet! 100% stable.

Look at JonnyGuru.com for powersupply info! You will need the info for a high end GPU or if you are thinking about a possible SLI uppgrade in the future!

 

thewestpole

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Stumbled upon this P6N thread and thought I'd relay my Wolfdale experience so far. I just upgraded an E4500 @ 3.3 GHz (300 x 10) to an E7200 (and BIOS Rev. 1.7) running at speeds detailed below and am still doing a little fine tuning of VCC and FSB VTT for stability and longevity.

Your 280 GTX numbers sparked my interest, though, because now I find myself GPU limited. My new numbers in 3DMark06 with an overclocked 8800GT are now 13,667 @ 4.0GHz and 13,480 @ 3.8 GHz, a difference so small that it makes little sense to push the higher clock and voltage. More surprising, the Crysis Benchmark returned identical frame rates at 4.0 and 3.8GHz: 44.64 FPS (1280 x 1024, all settings High, no AA, V-sync off). Clearly, the next step up for me is a faster card, but your numbers make me wonder how much better I would do with the GTX 280. Would it be worth it at my current resolution, or only if I moved up to 1680 x 1050? Just don't know yet.

Anyway, I have to say this E7200 has turned out to be some pretty cheap power! I bought it because I had to get a new CPU/MB/RAM combo to upgrade an old Athlon XP that was getting flakey and saw the E7200/ECS GF7050VT-M combo at Fry's for $99. So I took the new proc for my gaming machine and handed down the old E4500 to run stock on the new cheapo MB. Even if you bought this combo and sold the MB on Ebay (they go for around $35-40) you'd have the new proc for around $65, a steal for a 4GHz Dual Core that, in games at least, will outperform an oc'd Q6600 and equal an oc'd E8400 at, what, 1/3 the price? (Remember: these Nvidia boards don't overclock anywhere near as well as the Intels, and I expect there's going to be real limits to pushing any of the newer procs with 1333 FSBs.) Maybe the cheapest way to get a whole lot more out of your GTX 280... Good luck!


My E7200 results so far:

4.009GHz (422 x 9.5) @ 1.46V (CPU-Z, idle) passing Orthos Blend for 24 hours with RealTemp readings of 26C min / 74C max temp. Before the 24-hour run, Orthos small and large FFTs also passed for 3 hours each. I know this is pushing it, but Intel's 1.45V max spec on this processor has been broadly and fairly challenged among overclockers (Google: "wolfdale 1.4v myth") and because my temps were okay I went ahead. Orthos Blend varies in its power damands and the 74C max temp was only intermittently hit. By contrast, I ran the Crysis Benchmark utility, an excellent surrogate for intense game play, in a 50-pass loop (in search of max stable overclock on my 8800GT) and the CPU only hit ~57C. That said, because my comfort level with current Intel processors is low 70s peak in Orthos and I don't particularly like pushing Intel's specified limits, I'm not yet entirely comfortable with this overclock.

An alternative I'm currently testing:

3.8GHz (400 x 9.5) @ 1.36V (CPU-Z, idle) is now running Orthos Blend in its sixth hour and the temp has not exceeded 65C. Because 3.8GHz benchmarks 3DMark06 in my rig only 125 points less than 4GHz does, I may well decide to keep it there as my final 24/7 choice. Haven't decided yet.

A note on my low-end HSF setup. Yea, I'm thrifty, but not stupid. The E7200 replaced an E4500, which had a heat sink twice as thick as the one included with the new processor, so I kept it. But there's a trick I've employed for a number of years with AMD and Intel stock HSFs. I use a Zalman fan bracket to mount a low-RPM 120mm fan an inch or two above the stock setup. (The initial idea was to be able to slow/quiet down the small high pitched HSFs while maintaining cooling in "silent" PCs.) Because it is larger in diameter it helps to keep the hot air exhausted at the base of the heat sink from feeding right back into the fan supplying it, greatly increasing the HSF's efficiency, and as a bonus it cools the NB heat sink as well. It's not better than the best of the aftermarket HSFs, of course, but it's as good as all but a few at significantly decreasing temps over stock. And you're out ~$10.
 
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