MSNBC poll - 86% want impeachment

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
My poll says 94% of polls are slighted or biast.

Well of course they are when they don't go your way, now don't they?

Now go help mom in the kitchen and earn your rent!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

If you click the link under the poll you go to a page that says this:

About our Live Votes and surveys
How 1,000 people can be more representative than 200,000

One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.

They are basically admitting this poll is a sham. Which it is. A real survey would never yield these results.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
If you click the link under the poll you go to a page that says this:

About our Live Votes and surveys
How 1,000 people can be more representative than 200,000

One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.

They are basically admitting this poll is a sham. Which it is. A real survey would never yield these results.

A sham? No. Statistically significant? Not that either (which Engineer already pointed out in the third post in this thread).

On-line polls are mostly entertaining. They do offer some insight into where current passions stand, i.e., how many people are passionate enough about an issue to vote in the poll. They are not a substitue for scientific polls.

 

[slyedog]

only lib whackos watch msnbc. the poll should read 100%.....dream on

 

[Jaihahih]

GO CLINTON!

 

[cruiser1338]

This is just a BS poll. Post the same thing on Fox.com and you'd have the same results, just inverted. It's not a random sampling, it's anti-Bushies uniting, and skewing the results.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: slyedog
only lib whackos watch msnbc. the poll should read 100%.....dream on

Not necessarily. I have seen MSNBC polls that show strong conservative support. My guess is that someone screwed with the poll.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: slyedog
only lib whackos watch msnbc. the poll should read 100%.....dream on

Not necessarily. I have seen MSNBC polls that show strong conservative support. My guess is that someone screwed with the poll.

OK, you caught me. I voted twice.

:roll:

 

[dmcanally]

When will either of the two parties run a person who isn?t involved with big business? When will one of the two parties find an American who could do the job with heart and honesty? Until we start electing true people, instead of who isn?t as bad as the other, America is doomed.

 

[Screech]

Originally posted by: dmcanally
When will either of the two parties run a person who isn?t involved with big business? When will one of the two parties find an American who could do the job with heart and honesty? Until we start electing true people, instead of who isn?t as bad as the other, America is doomed.

Unfotunately, plitics and the big businesses that throw $$ into campaigns will never be seperated, IMO.

 

[dmcanally]

Originally posted by: screech
Unfotunately, plitics and the big businesses that throw $$ into campaigns will never be seperated, IMO.

While I agree that they are tied so close together these days that its amlost impossible to see where one stops and the other begins, I don't believe that its impossible to get the United States back on the right track. While it might be too late for doing this in a peacefull manner, there is always the option of revolution.

 

[piasabird]

Maybe most of the people that go to msnbc are liberals?

 

[piasabird]

Now if you had a poll that said are you liberal or conservative or what party they said they belonged to and then asked them that question, you might have a better idea how the wind was blowing.

After watching the Clinton Impeachment, and the trial after that, I would say it is a good chance, even if impeached, you will never see a conviction of any wrongdoing. It is a tough thing to kick a sitting president out of office. Do you really want the vice president to take over?

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Do you really want the vice president to take over?

Nobody need replace an impeached President unless that person was also removed.

I'm thinking that Congress appoints a removed President. Impeachment can mean censureship, not necessarily removal.

 

[ericlp]

I dunno I have seen a few cars with bumper stickers plasterd all over the back end AND this is in a red state... Usually really old geezers that are pushed up all the way to the windshield 'prolly didn't even relize they had these stickers on thier car...G'Bush is my president and stand with him!!! hahaha I know they were hitting the no button...


Gawd, these people have a lot of balls driving around my town with bush stickers... I bet they get honked at and flipped a thousand times a day...

I just laugh when I see these cars. But I wouldn't stop anyone from getting out at a red light with a baseball bat kocking out all of the windows...

 

[EMPshockwave82]

not a fan of bush in any way however these polls that are taken on websites like this are so inaccurate it's mind boggling

 

[piasabird]

Impeachment proceedings lead up to a trial. That is the ultimate goal. Technically removal of a president is not really a trial but a proceeding seen over by the chief justice as moderator and voted on. However, if a president is impeached then there is some kind of proceeding to undertake a trial. It takes a lot of voting power to just to impeach a president. Then the trial has no real rules. The proceedings for President Clinton made that abundantly clear.

It was nothing more than a dog and pony show! It was a giant farce from beginning to end.

 

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: DickFnTracy
The only honest answer to that poll is, "I don't know."

WRONG! The only honest answer is, "HELL YES!"

You are the finest examples of people that we don't need in America

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: DickFnTracy
The only honest answer to that poll is, "I don't know."

WRONG! The only honest answer is, "HELL YES!"

You are the finest examples of people that we don't need in America

You are free to leave anytime. From the sound of it, you haven't been here long anyway. Now back to OT where they have been keeping your seat at the kids table warm. Good bye.

 

[conjur]

Very telling chart courtesy of the Wall Street Journal


Too bad the party of accountability has ZERO scruples.

 

[thraashman]

Originally posted by: conjur
Very telling chart courtesy of the Wall Street Journal


Too bad the party of accountability has ZERO scruples.

I like that. Almost twice the percentage of people believe GW acted in a manner that justifies he be put on trial to answer for his actions. I feel that at the very least Bush should be impeached. The trial process needs to be used to determine whether or not he should be removed from office, but the GOP needs to realize that they should stop protecting their own and they need to hold Bush accountable. But no, they won't even try him. If they have faith that he's innocent, take it to impeachment and let it be shown if Bush acted properly. I don't think even the Republicans believe Bush acted right, and that's why they won't even make him answer and it's also why no one is ever put under oath.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: kogase
MSNBC open online poll...

Online polls are pretty much meaningless (I don't mean poll results shown online, I mean polls that are "taken" online).

This is correct. Those who participate in online polls are generally self-selecting for excellent education and outstanding judgement, definitely NOT a cross section of the American public.

Trailer-park rednecks - 90% of Bush's voter base - are almost completely absent from online polls, yet would undoubtedly vote against impeaching Bush, even if there were videos showing Bush handing Osama bin Laden a suitcase filled with cash on 9/12/01.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: kogase
MSNBC open online poll...

Online polls are pretty much meaningless (I don't mean poll results shown online, I mean polls that are "taken" online).

This is correct. Those who participate in online polls are generally self-selecting for excellent education and outstanding judgement, definitely NOT a cross section of the American public.

Trailer-park rednecks - 90% of Bush's voter base - are almost completely absent from online polls, yet would undoubtedly vote against impeaching Bush, even if there were videos showing Bush handing Osama bin Laden a suitcase filled with cash on 9/12/01.

Yeah, but what if it was a video of osama handing over a few cases of pabst/schlitz ice and a few baggies of crystal, then their eyes would open.

Remember you have to be in touch with middle american values.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: kogase
MSNBC open online poll...

Online polls are pretty much meaningless (I don't mean poll results shown online, I mean polls that are "taken" online).

This is correct. Those who participate in online polls are generally self-selecting for excellent education and outstanding judgement, definitely NOT a cross section of the American public.

Trailer-park rednecks - 90% of Bush's voter base - are almost completely absent from online polls, yet would undoubtedly vote against impeaching Bush, even if there were videos showing Bush handing Osama bin Laden a suitcase filled with cash on 9/12/01.

Yeah, but what if it was a video of osama handing over a few cases of pabst/schlitz ice and a few baggies of crystal, then their eyes would open.

Remember you have to be in touch with middle american values.

You forgot to add in a copy of the triple X rated "Burkha's gone wild!!".

 

[thraashman]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: kogase
MSNBC open online poll...

Online polls are pretty much meaningless (I don't mean poll results shown online, I mean polls that are "taken" online).

This is correct. Those who participate in online polls are generally self-selecting for excellent education and outstanding judgement, definitely NOT a cross section of the American public.

Trailer-park rednecks - 90% of Bush's voter base - are almost completely absent from online polls, yet would undoubtedly vote against impeaching Bush, even if there were videos showing Bush handing Osama bin Laden a suitcase filled with cash on 9/12/01.

Yeah, but what if it was a video of osama handing over a few cases of pabst/schlitz ice and a few baggies of crystal, then their eyes would open.

Remember you have to be in touch with middle american values.

You forgot to add in a copy of the triple X rated "Burkha's gone wild!!".

Ok, that is the first time I think a statement in P&N actually made me laugh.