A section(s) of congress is getting the unredacted report, minus grand jury stuff.
Well my 20 minutes of state sanctioned propaganda have been met for the day. Time for POTUS and Fox to meme away.
Did the AG really explain that the obstruction was justified because the president's feelings were hurt?
So the AG has been working with Donald's lawyers all the while. What a shock. Sad that Barr throws what until now had been a bipartisan good reputation and throws it right in the shitter.
If it’s "lightly" redacted, why did it take so long to release? Did they need to get Putin's blessing?
Personally, I'll just skip the press conference, unless there are reports that Rosenstein decided to fall on his sword and start walking through the list of open investigations on national TV, just to get tackled by secret service.
If you're caught speeding with intent, that's probably reckless endangerment or exhibition of speed. No intent, it's still speeding.Intent matters a lot in basically all crimes. If you drop an anvil off a building because you're clumsy and it kills someone that's a lot different than dropping an anvil off a building for the purpose of killing someone.
What I think is incredible is that Barr is arguing that if Trump sincerely believed the investigation was meritless then it wouldn't be illegal for him to obstruct it. That's comically, laughably wrong.
If you're caught speeding with intent, that's probably reckless endangerment or exhibition of speed. No intent, it's still speeding.
If you kill someone with intent, it's one of the various murders. Without, it's still manslaughter.
I cannot really think of a single crime that you just get off scot free without intent, unless someone's just being lenient. Punishments exist for crimes without intent specifically to keep people aware that they are crimes, so people don't do them.
My mistake. I still think it's unlikely that you can state that he didn't have intent given that he was never interviewed. IMO it should still be considered an open investigation :|Speeding is a civil infraction, not a criminal statute. Intent is not required for civil infractions but it is required for criminal statutes.
Murder is a crime you get off for without intent. Manslaughter still requires gross negligence and intent to commit the grossly negligent act. Basically every criminal statute requires intent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
My mistake. I still think it's unlikely that you can state that he didn't have intent given that he was never interviewed. IMO it should still be considered an open investigation :|
Yeah, but will he read passed the cover page?I don't understand why these people think that Trump won't get to see the full unredacted report whether or not it ever gets released to Congress or the public. Hell, I'd be surprised if Barr didn't give a copy to the WH before he even started reading it himself.
Yeah, but will he read passed the cover page?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-press-conference
"Attorney General William Barr on Thursday affirmed that Special Counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the 2016 presidential election, addressing reporters shortly before he is expected to release Mueller's report to Congress and to the public."
This needs to be put to rest already. It was a political witch hunt, no question about it. It was always built on the everybody gets a trophy crowd not being able to handle not getting their way. You lefties should apologize.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-press-conference
"Attorney General William Barr on Thursday affirmed that Special Counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the 2016 presidential election, addressing reporters shortly before he is expected to release Mueller's report to Congress and to the public."
This needs to be put to rest already. It was a political witch hunt, no question about it. It was always built on the everybody gets a trophy crowd not being able to handle not getting their way.
You lefties should apologize.
I was unaware of the legal principal that says being mad makes obstruction not a crime.
Barr no longer presents even the slightest pretense of not acting as White House defense counsel. This press conference probably makes the Congress's legal argument that they should see the full report much, much stronger. We'll see in the courts.
Even Foxnews agrees (Chris Wallace this morning): "The Attorney General seemed almost to be acting as the counselor for the defense, for the counselor for the president, rather than the Attorney General .
Barr no longer presents even the slightest pretense of not acting as White House defense counsel. This press conference probably makes the Congress's legal argument that they should see the full report much, much stronger. We'll see in the courts.
Even Foxnews agrees (Chris Wallace this morning): "The Attorney General seemed almost to be acting as the counselor for the defense, for the counselor for the president, rather than the Attorney General" ...
I 100% agree with you! I also think that even if we accept Barr's interpretation of Trump's intent it doesn't hold up. He's basically trying to argue that because Trump was mad about Mueller's investigation he was entitled to obstruct it. This is laughably false.
Congress has a slam dunk legal case for seeing the entire report. The Constitution empowers Congress to investigate and impeach the president for misconduct while in office. Therefore, Congress has the absolute right to all information relevant to making the determination if the president has engaged in misconduct and the executive branch has no power to withhold it.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-press-conference
"Attorney General William Barr on Thursday affirmed that Special Counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the 2016 presidential election, addressing reporters shortly before he is expected to release Mueller's report to Congress and to the public."
This needs to be put to rest already. It was a political witch hunt, no question about it. It was always built on the everybody gets a trophy crowd not being able to handle not getting their way. You lefties should apologize.