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The first was that they felt they did not have enough evidence to prove that the Trump campaign officials involved in planning and attending the meeting were acting “willfully,” which the report defines as having “general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct.” Mueller’s investigators were unable to find “evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban,” according to the redacted report.
Don't expect a lot of moral self reflection from people conditioned to believe that their sins will send them to hell. They always think that God is as stupid as they are. This forum for them is just a place to practice
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-press-conference
"Attorney General William Barr on Thursday affirmed that Special Counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians during the 2016 presidential election, addressing reporters shortly before he is expected to release Mueller's report to Congress and to the public."
This needs to be put to rest already. It was a political witch hunt, no question about it. It was always built on the everybody gets a trophy crowd not being able to handle not getting their way. You lefties should apologize.
So, this really comes down to that no one on Mueller's team believed that anyone working for Trump was actually smart enough to **collude with Russia?
Trump campaign is already running with “but Hillary”.
I heard the new communications lady, forget her name, today being asked questions on NPR. It was hilarious. You could tell that woman was just seething, wouldn't answer a straight question and brought up the Clinton Foundation in under 6 seconds. She sounded like she had just received a firm kick to the cat, and the host maintained a perfect tempo and polite, even voice. It was glorious.
And it's only going to get worse for him from here on out haha. I keep thinking of the "My presidency is over. I'm fucked." comment.
Awesome stuff!
I'm mostly finished reading the report. I wouldn't even know where to begin discussing the granular details. On "collusion," Trump's behavior was anywhere from sleazy to the point of disloyalty to country to a criminal conspiracy which simply can't be proven by direct evidence. We may never know. But on the issue of obstruction: FFS. Out of three possible conclusions Mueller could have drawn: prosecute, do not prosecute, or punt the decision to someone else, I can only speculate as to why he choose option 3. The sheer quantity of things Trump did - whether successful or not - to obstruct this investigation is staggering. This is one of the best cases I've ever seen for obstruction. It's a slam dunk IMO.
I have to think that Mueller for whatever reason doesn't want to be the one to recommend that Trump be prosecuted for attempting to obstruct Mueller's own investigation. Maybe Mueller thinks it would be perceived as a vendetta over Trump trying to fire Mueller more than once. So he wants another prosecutor to make that call. And Mueller knows Barr is a toady who would never prosecute Trump but that it doesn't matter anyway because Trump can't be prosecuted until he's out. Yet he also knows that a DoJ under a future administration can use this evidence he has marshalled to prosecute Trump if it so desires. That's my best guess at trying to understand why Mueller's conclusion doesn't seem to track the facts he laid out because if Trump isn't guilty of obstruction on those facts, then I'm the Dalai Lama.
Mueller couldn't indict because of the current AG and the departments policy to not indict a sitting president. He punted because, ultimately, its up to Congress to remove a president.
The question I have is if the DOJ will indict trump after he is out of office. There is more than enough evidence to do so.
The policy of not indicting a sitting president has been in place since Nixon, at least. It's the only logically consistent policy available. Otherwise we could conceivably get presidenting from a prison cell. The possibility of Trump being indicted while in office never existed. Mueller had no choice to make in that regard & said so.
Trump 2020