Mueller Time count down thread -> 26th

cytg111

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So, channeling Nostradamus here

Trump is having daily and hours long sessions with his collusion lawyer crew.
Trumps recent interview basicly offering, unprovoked, testament that Whitaker is another obstruction of justice.
Trump tweets he has knowledge of the inner workings of the Mueller investigation.
Manafort lawyers postpones a report suggesting how helpful he has been from nov.16th to nov.26th.
Something of Yuuuuuuuge proportions is going to go down within the next 10 days.
Is Trump going to have a saturday massacre on New York's Fifth Avenue?
- And get away with it?
- And not get away with it?

TEN days! Place your bets. Ill start the clock.
 

BlueWeasel

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I don't know about 10 days. We've heard rumors before about upcoming dates in the Mueller investigation followed by crickets. I'm guessing no big news until middle of December or after the new year.

If I'm wrong, I will gladly eat crow. The sooner the better. I hope the SOB and his dumbass kids get indicted as soon as possible.
 
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I still want it to be an indictment advent calendar for every day in December. But instead of chocolate we unseal a new indictment each day.

And chocolate. I still want chocolate. White chocolate seems appropriate here.
 

cytg111

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My money is on someone closer to Trumps inner circles .. maybe Jnr or Jared.
 

dawp

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My money is on someone closer to Trumps inner circles .. maybe Jnr or Jared.
i would love to see the whole gang indited, including ivanka, and become paupers

i think it'll be after the new year
 

cytg111

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At a normal timetable, yea probably, but I think Trump is about to pull the trigger... for whatever consequences that may have to the whole complex.
 

trenchfoot

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Trump is cornered like the proverbial rat that he is. That makes me laugh, but it's a bit of a nervous one as I had promised myself that I would never ever underestimate that piece of shit vermin again. That he is desperate just makes him that much more dangerous.

If true justice prevails, Trump will get much more and much worse than the nightmares he must be having for he has angered untold millions of his fellow citizens with his avarice, his defiance and disregard for the rule of law, his narcissism, his incompetence.

I hope he gets a really nice Christmas/New Year's greetings from Mueller with indictments naming his two sons.....for starters.
 

cytg111

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The playbook of Trumps team of lawyers : How Nixon could have pulled it off.
 

zinfamous

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Since all of the assets of the Trump empire are essentially tied to money laundered through Russia and SA, it would be nice to see all of those assets frozen via the Magnitsky Act.

Congress could make that kind of request, no?
 
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Since all of the assets of the Trump empire are essentially tied to money laundered through Russia and SA, it would be nice to see all of those assets frozen via the Magnitsky Act.

Congress could make that kind of request, no?
I believe they already have invoked the Magnitsky Act in relation to SA. The admin has 120 days to respond as to why they've taken no action against SA. Congress can then take action of their own if they are not satisfied.
 

zinfamous

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I believe they already have invoked the Magnitsky Act in relation to SA. The admin has 120 days to respond as to why they've taken no action against SA. Congress can then take action of their own if they are not satisfied.

yeah but can they invoke Magnitsky directly against the Trump empire, arguing that it is an "unregistered foreign agent," just like with that other traitor, Michael Flynn?
 
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yeah but can they invoke Magnitsky directly against the Trump empire, arguing that it is an "unregistered foreign agent," just like with that other traitor, Michael Flynn?
Doubtful. The act is specifically designed to target human rights abusers. Extra judicial killings, torture or other gross violations of internationally recognized human rights.
 

zinfamous

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Doubtful. The act is specifically designed to target human rights abusers. Extra judicial killings, torture or other gross violations of internationally recognized human rights.

the crazy conspiracy theory that I have been having is that with Jared's known relationship with MBS (his meeting over an SA, prior to 2016 election and after, setting up their plans to get his family bailed out for $2 billion debt, support for the war in Yemen, and US support of MBS's coup)--all of that actually did happen--is that Kashoggi wasn't just critical of MBS and the Sauds, but that he was working on a piece regarding the Kushner family, the Sauds, and Trump, and all of the money locked up between them.

I've been thinking...it wouldn't be all that strange that MBS killed Kashoggi (everyone knows that he ordered it) because Kashoggi very seriously threatened to expose the connection with the Kushners and the Trumps.

so...there's that?
 
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the crazy conspiracy theory that I have been having is that with Jared's known relationship with MBS (his meeting over an SA, prior to 2016 election and after, setting up their plans to get his family bailed out for $2 billion debt, support for the war in Yemen, and US support of MBS's coup)--all of that actually did happen--is that Kashoggi wasn't just critical of MBS and the Sauds, but that he was working on a piece regarding the Kushner family, the Sauds, and Trump, and all of the money locked up between them.

I've been thinking...it wouldn't be all that strange that MBS killed Kashoggi (everyone knows that he ordered it) because Kashoggi very seriously threatened to expose the connection with the Kushners and the Trumps.

so...there's that?
You’d be better off going with the theory that Kushner exposed people to MBS which enabled him to target them. There are reports of MBS saying Kushner essentially gave him a kill list of enemies.
 
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I saw that but I don't know the importance of it all because there are just too many things in play to connect the dots, at least for me.
It was believed that Corsi May have been Stones back channel to WikiLeaks. Stone said it was Randy Credico but her denies it completely. If Corsi was in contact with WikiLeaks and knew of the Clinton and Podesta hacks it would explain how Stone knew. Stone worked on Trumps campaign. So the question then becomes who else on the campaign knew and were they in anyway coordinating with WikiLeaks on the releases.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Stone claimed corsi was his back channel to WikiLeaks. If Corsi was in contact with WikiLeaks and knew of the Clinton and Podesta hacks it would explain how Stone knew. Stone worked on Trumps campaign. So the question then becomes who else on the campaign knew and were they in anyway coordinating with WikiLeaks on the releases.

Gotcha. Now if what we believe is true, that these people played dirty politics way beyond the norm, what does that mean? Trump and his campaign would be disgraced but that's meaningless unless there is an illegality sufficient to impeach and remove Trump or sends minions to prison or both. I don't know how many high level people can be flipped to have an effect. This alone would have wrecked the Presidency of anyone in our history but so far Trump has the immunity of a Mussolini or Mao.
 
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Gotcha. Now if what we believe is true, that these people played dirty politics way beyond the norm, what does that mean? Trump and his campaign would be disgraced but that's meaningless unless there is an illegality sufficient to impeach and remove Trump or sends minions to prison or both. I don't know how many high level people can be flipped to have an effect. This alone would have wrecked the Presidency of anyone in our history but so far Trump has the immunity of a Mussolini or Mao.
That’s just it. In a sane world if the campaign coordinated with a foreign adversary to rig the election they’d be impeached. Especially with everything he’s done since. This ain’t a sane world any more.
 
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