Mueller to Testify Before Congress - July 17th

[zinfamous]

How do these fauxnews mofos sleep at night knowing of the shit that comes out of their pieholes.
Really, Mueller doesn't know what's in his own report?
Effing reprobate morons.

It's the kind of dumbshittery that people would be fired for not too long ago...if their bosses were ethical people.

lol, though.

 

[cytg111]

Guy wrote up a report. Guy will now put verbal commentary to that report. Trump and GOP loses their shit.
What?

 

[brandonbull]

Guy wrote up a report. Guy will now put verbal commentary to that report. Trump and GOP loses their shit.
What?

Democrats and their band of useful idiots can't help but to march themselves right off the cliff. This is going to be another spectacular fail for the Democrats in their efforts to remove Trump. If left to destroy himself politically, Trump would do it. The Democrats can't let Trump take credit for destroying himself so they try to intervene and time and time again keep saving Trump from himself.

 

[cytg111]

Democrats and their band of useful idiots can't help but to march themselves right off the cliff. This is going to be another spectacular fail for the Democrats in their efforts to remove Trump. If left to destroy himself politically, Trump would do it. The Democrats can't let Trump take credit for destroying himself so they try to intervene and time and time again keep saving Trump from himself.

Read your post again and do a A->B->C->D ... and tell me again, how he would destroy him self politically with no aid whatsoever from the dems.
Also, the term "useful idiot" has now done the 360 round I see and the alt right is trying to water down its true meaning (as they did with #fakenews.. another "no you are the sock puppet" moment...)

 

[trenchfoot]

Well it seems the Repubs have gotten really good at bracing their base for the hits they're going to take when Mueller starts explaining himself as it does seem to be the actual opening shot for the impeachment hearings to get going.

It's gotten to the point where, as esquared mentioned, the FOX propagandist apparatchiks have gotten so desperate as to actually accuse Mueller of not knowing what's in his own report. I actually shook my head in awe when that FOX mouthpiece came up with that WTF zinger that seems to have come straight out of Mel Brook's mind when he was creating one of those comedy classics of his.

Accessorizing themselves with desperation sweat seems to be the trending thing for those folks over at that fake news factory for quite awhile now.

Wear it well, it seems to fit nicely.

 

[brandonbull]

Read your post again and do a A->B->C->D ... and tell me again, how he would destroy him self politically with no aid whatsoever from the dems.
Also, the term "useful idiot" has now done the 360 round I see and the alt right is trying to water down its true meaning (as they did with #fakenews.. another "no you are the sock puppet" moment...)

Do you prefer NPC instead of useful idiot? Trump does and says a lot of crazy things but him and the GOP get to leverage "us against the world" mindset and the Dems are consistently dishonest when trying to expose Trump's flaws. Liberal media outlets and politicians time and time again present anti-Trump "facts" in dishonest and misleading ways so it looks like a "deep state witch hunt".

 

[Jhhnn]

Do you prefer NPC instead of useful idiot? Trump does and says a lot of crazy things but him and the GOP get to leverage "us against the world" mindset and the Dems are consistently dishonest when trying to expose Trump's flaws. Liberal media outlets and politicians time and time again present anti-Trump "facts" in dishonest and misleading ways so it looks like a "deep state witch hunt".

All that obstruction of justice stuff? The Democrats made him do it!

 

[dank69]

Do you prefer NPC instead of useful idiot? Trump does and says a lot of crazy things but him and the GOP get to leverage "us against the world" mindset and the Dems are consistently dishonest when trying to expose Trump's flaws. Liberal media outlets and politicians time and time again present anti-Trump "facts" in dishonest and misleading ways so it looks like a "deep state witch hunt".

The media isn't liberal. They pump stories that get the most clicks. If Trump stories are the most popular it is because people are interested in it. Additionally, inaccuracies are the result of trying to be the first to break a story or get a piece of breaking stories before all information is available because that is what people want, not because of some media conspiracy to damage Trump.

 

[brandonbull]

All that obstruction of justice stuff? The Democrats made him do it!

You mean the stuff that there's nothing to do anything with? I'm not sure if you are intentionally trying to prove my point.

 

[outriding]

You mean the stuff that there's nothing to do anything with? I'm not sure if you are intentionally trying to prove my point.

So why would anyone obstruct a "nothingburger"

You only obstruct if there is something of substance.

 

[Greenman]

So why would anyone obstruct a "nothingburger"

You only obstruct if there is something of substance.

It appears you've answered your own question.

 

[fskimospy]

It appears you've answered your own question.

While I think we both agree with his underlying point that the reason Trump committed obstruction of justice here was an attempt to hide underlying criminal activity it's not really relevant.

Even if Trump was only committing obstruction of justice in a fit of pique or to avoid personal embarrassment it's irrelevant as obstruction of justice requires no underlying crime for reasons that should be obvious.

 

[hal2kilo]

Well it seems the Repubs have gotten really good at bracing their base for the hits they're going to take when Mueller starts explaining himself as it does seem to be the actual opening shot for the impeachment hearings to get going.

It's gotten to the point where, as esquared mentioned, the FOX propagandist apparatchiks have gotten so desperate as to actually accuse Mueller of not knowing what's in his own report. I actually shook my head in awe when that FOX mouthpiece came up with that WTF zinger that seems to have come straight out of Mel Brook's mind when he was creating one of those comedy classics of his.

Accessorizing themselves with desperation sweat seems to be the trending thing for those folks over at that fake news factory for quite awhile now.

Wear it well, it seems to fit nicely.

You mean Mueller does not know he said no collusion, no obstruction in his own report? What a dummy. /s

 

[Jhhnn]

While I think we both agree with his underlying point that the reason Trump committed obstruction of justice here was an attempt to hide underlying criminal activity it's not really relevant.

Even if Trump was only committing obstruction of justice in a fit of pique or to avoid personal embarrassment it's irrelevant as obstruction of justice requires no underlying crime for reasons that should be obvious.

Absolutely correct. But Barr sez it was perfectly OK because Trump was just frustrated & angered for reasons-

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wa...ed-by-mueller-russia-investigation/vp-BBW5nXw

Looks like Trump found his Roy Cohn.

 

[Greenman]

While I think we both agree with his underlying point that the reason Trump committed obstruction of justice here was an attempt to hide underlying criminal activity it's not really relevant.

Even if Trump was only committing obstruction of justice in a fit of pique or to avoid personal embarrassment it's irrelevant as obstruction of justice requires no underlying crime for reasons that should be obvious.

That's correct, and it's also a tougher sell. In it's simplest terms, Trump may have tried to halt an investigation into a crime he didn't commit. That's the narrative he'll pound on if impeachment proceedings move forward. It's simple, understandable by the average Joe, and makes it sound like a minor issue.

Edit: Almost forgot, I'm looking forward to Mueller's testimony. It's a pity Tray Goudy is gone, it would have been epic to watch those two go at it.

 

[DarthKyrie]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/politics/robert-mueller-testify.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

The house issued subpoenas and he will answer unlike virtually every other administration official.

Nothing Berder or Shit Just Got Real?

Of course, this is a big nothingberder everyone knows that the Mueller Report exonerated our Dear God-Emporer.

What he’s trying to say is...perhaps we should have Barr testify instead? Maybe? Just a thought??

Of course, Barr should testify instead of Mueller he worked hard on making Mueller's Report seem like it clears our Dear God-Emporer. The Demonrats are just out to get our Dear God-Emporer they even got to Kavanaugh and forced him to come down against having a citizenship question on the Census.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I doubt that we will get anything out of him that isn't included in the report, but I still think its worth it for him to testify. The point is to have him state clearly in a public hearing with TV camera's that Barr's and Trumps interpretation of what the report says is flat out wrong. Its harder to convince people that "Mueller totally exonerated me" when there is a clip of Mueller directly saying that he did not.

IMO, there are certain things that you will never get him to say...

1) Whether or not Trump is guilty or would he have been indicted were he not president
2) Whether Barr lied about the report.
3) Should Trump be impeached

But IMO you can get him to make statements that contradict Trump and Barr by asking leading yes/no follow up questions.

Q: Does the report exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice or conspiracy with the Russians?
A: if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.
Q: So since you did not so state it would be incorrect to say that your report exonerates Trump?

Also .. Mueller is not a hostile witness. I believe that Mueller really does want his report to be understood by the American people, and I think deep down he wants Congress to impeach Trump but he also wants to remain apolitical and feels its not his place to instruct congress as to what they should do. There are certain places he won't go, but he also won't try to evade questions that are just trying to illuminate clearly what is stated in the report.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's correct, and it's also a tougher sell. In it's simplest terms, Trump may have tried to halt an investigation into a crime he didn't commit. That's the narrative he'll pound on if impeachment proceedings move forward. It's simple, understandable by the average Joe, and makes it sound like a minor issue.

Edit: Almost forgot, I'm looking forward to Mueller's testimony. It's a pity Tray Goudy is gone, it would have been epic to watch those two go at it.

Gohmert, Gaetz & Jordan are on the Judiciary committee...

 

[jmagg]

It's all about optics, and there's a reason that Muller expressed that he was done commenting before the supeonia. Bad optics both sides, nothing comes of it and the people believe even less than before. if that's possible.

 

[sportage]

So, who else thinks either Trump or Barr will pull "something" between now and Wednesday July 24th where Mueller will not be allowed to testify?
We know this is really pissing Trump off. And we know Trump simply will not allow Mueller to appear and stir things up, again.
Either that, or Trump and Barr are totally convinced Mueller will do no harm. Mueller will stick to his report, adding nothing to that beyond what Mueller has already stated, and Mueller will be very controlled in the hearing while house Democrats will be very frustrated.
Personally, I doubt Mueller will be allowed to appear.
Or if he does appear, we'll find out if Mueller is with Trump, or against him.
I believe Mueller is a loyal republican and wishes the administration no harm.
Democrats aren't going to like that much.

 

[vi edit]

Republicans will try and pull some archaic procedural move to halt the hearings at the beginning. They did the same thing when Cohen testified. Nadler will just gavel through it and ignore.

 

[GobBluth]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/politics/robert-mueller-testify.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

The house issued subpoenas and he will answer unlike virtually every other administration official.

Nothing Berder or Shit Just Got Real?

Well, if nothing else, the Strozk (sp?) and Comey hearings were some of the most entertaining television I've seen in a while. So hopefully, this is up there as well.

 

[Bitek]

Great he's coming, although it's three/four months too late.

WTF, then the Ds break for 6 week recess right after, leaving Trump to pound on this from Twitter with no counterattack?

Pelosi will continue to roadblock impeachment inquires, so other follow ups will be slow, then we're right into the heat of primaries.

Goddamn it. This will end up a nothingberder just through sheer mishandling, rather than T innocence.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

WTF, then the Ds break for 6 week recess right after, leaving Trump to pound on this from Twitter with no counterattack?

Pelosi will continue to roadblock impeachment inquires, so other follow ups will be slow, then we're right into the heat of primaries.

FSM forbid anyone have to take an actual fucking stand and place their name on a line somewhere. Goddamn cowards.

 

[soundforbjt]

Gohmert, Gaetz & Jordan are on the Judiciary committee...

The Three Stooges.