Muhammad found guilty of murder

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The sniper who went on the shooting spree was convicted on 6 counts of murder.


Muhammad found guilty on 6 counts of murder
Montgomery County jury convicts sniper for role in 2002 shooting spree

By Andrea F. Siegel
Sun Reporter
Published May 30, 2006, 2:02 PM CDT


ROCKVILLE -- John Allen Muhammad was found guilty this afternoon of murdering six people in Montgomery County during the 2002 sniper rampage by a jury that rejected his claim that he was framed.

Jurors deliberated for more than four hours before convicting Muhammad, 45. The verdict was read just after 2:15 p.m.

Muhammad sat grim-faced, with his arms folded across chest as the verdict was read. As he was led from the courtroom he said, "Your honor, may I speak?"

Montgomery County Circuit Judge James L. Ryan answered, "No sir," and Muhammad was led away.

After the verdict, Vijay Walekar, brother of sniper victim Premkumar Walekar, said, "I wish they had the death penalty."

Muhammad can receive up to six consecutive life terms in prison without parole in Maryland -- a sentence that may prove meaningless if he is executed in Virginia.

Asked how he felt, Walekar replied, "He stands up and denies everything up there. It was hard for us to take it."

The verdict ended a bizarre trial in which a man already on death row for a sniper slaying in Virginia acted as his own lawyer and questioned witnesses against him -- from the youth who mesmerized the courtroom with admissions of being Muhammad's murderous puppet to the federal computer experts he called "hackers."

A condemned man, he seemed to enjoy his role of authority as he stood at the defense table in his standby lawyers' suits, flanked by his legal team for advice and by a tactical team for security.

The trial itself was controversial. Some argued that it was a pointless waste of money to try a man already on death row elsewhere. But State's Attorney Douglas F. Gansler, a candidate for Maryland attorney general, said a conviction would provide insurance should Muhammad win an appeal in his Virginia case as well as offer a closing chapter for the devastated families of victims and residents of the county that suffered the most attacks.

Prosecutors dwarfed Muhammad's defense strategy as they presented testimony from more than 100 witnesses, showed jurors more than 300 items of evidence and called Muhammad a "pathetic coward." Seventeen witnesses, including police officers, placed Muhammad, his 1990 blue Chevrolet Caprice, or accomplice Lee Boyd Malvo, in the vicinity of sniper killings shortly before or after victims were felled by a single long-distance shot.

The six slaying victims were among 13 people shot in the Washington area, including 10 fatally, during three weeks in October 2002. The pair is suspected in shootings in Washington, Georgia, Louisiana and Alabama, as well as other crimes.

Muhammad was convicted here in the October 2002 killings of Walekar, 54; James D. Martin, 55; James L. "Sonny" Buchanan, 39; Maria Sarah Ramos, 34; Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera, 25; and Conrad E. Johnson, 35.

Muhammad contended that he and Malvo were the victims of a vast law enforcement conspiracy, for which he offered neither proof nor evidence. He argued that the pair really had come to the Washington area so that Muhammad could find and reclaim the children he lost to his ex-wife in a nasty custody battle. He argued throughout the trial that he was stymied by the judge and prosecutors at every turn, as he sought to summons more than 500 witnesses but ended up with nine and was barred from many lines of questioning.

In a rambling closing argument Friday that lasted nearly 3 1/2 hours, Muhammad compared himself to Jesus, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and other martyred figures. He cited the Bible and the Koran, invoked the words of Andrew Jackson as well as Groucho Marx, and shouted at the jurors.

"My case is based on one thing and it's very simple: They lied on two people," he told the jury -- and later he asked the jury to find the prosecutors guilty.

He maintained that the prosecution's case was built on "stupid sense" as opposed to common sense, saying "I call these cases the cow jumping over the moon."

He dismissed the testimony of Malvo, his former protégé whom he continued to call "my son" throughout the trial, as brainwashing by police -- a twist on Malvo's defense at his own 2003 murder trial in Virginia that Muhammad had indoctrinated him. Malvo was convicted of a sniper murder in that trial and is serving multiple life sentences without parole. Last week, Malvo agreed to plead guilty to the same six murders for which Muhammad has been standing trial for most of the month of May.

As the trial began with jury selection, Muhammad drifted between alleging CIA involvement in the conspiracy against him to impressing some observers with his use of popular legal terminology. But as the prosecution turned from laying out 14 shootings to using DNA, fingerprints and computer analysis to tie him to the six slayings, he grew agitated and at times appeared disorganized, his lack of trial savvy evident. He did not testify for himself.

Prosecutors asked jurors to note that if Muhammad had an address for his children as he claimed -- they were in Clinton with his ex-wife -- why was he roaming the Washington area, repeatedly spotted in such distant sites as Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Fredericksburg, Va.?

In closing arguments, Assistant State's Attorney Vivek Chopra told jurors that Muhammad made "godlike decisions" with victims he chose at random, shooting them with a high-velocity rifle he stowed behind the back seat of a sniper's lair on wheels.

"Call me God indeed," Chopra nodded, in a clear reference to a distinguishing line in the snipers' cryptic notes and telephone calls to police.

As they had at Muhammad's 2003 trial in Virginia, jurors saw the car in which he and Malvo were arrested before dawn on Oct. 24, 2002, as they napped at an Interstate 70 rest stop near Frederick.

Chopra eerily reminded the jury of the changes witnesses said Muhammad made to it -- a gunport cut into the trunk, windows tinted dark, a back seat rebuilt with a hinge to allow a person to crawl into the trunk undetected -- "deadly changes that allowed him to kill with perceived impunity."

Prosecutors told the jury that Malvo's testimony was important, but not needed for a conviction. Chopra described Malvo as a child of 15 when he met Muhammad on the Caribbean island of Antigua, a youth desperate for parental love as he was abandoned by his mother and had barely any contact with his father. Malvo was easy prey for Muhammad, who turned him into a cold killer, Chopra said.

"This is a man this child said he would die for," Deputy State's Attorney Katherine Winfree told the jury. She said Muhammad created a means to "duck behind a 17-year-old boy" if arrested, telling Malvo to accept full responsibility for the shootings because as a juvenile, he was an unlikely candidate for a death sentence.

The snipers sought to extort $10 million to end the violence, according to the prosecution. Malvo told a rapt jury that the sniper shootings were a warm-up to a violent rampage of shootings and terrorist-style bombings in Baltimore. The cash the government would pay out would bankroll Muhammad's vision of creating a community in Canada where he would train 140 children to replicate his crimes across the United States in a move to disrupt the economy and spark a revolution, Malvo testified that Muhammad told him.

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Good to know this was finally put to rest, I remember the panic it caused at the time.
 

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He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.
 

jimkyser

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.
Except, they may be able to get a death penalty conviction from Maryland if his appeals stop it from happening in Virginia. And they still have Alabama waiting in the wings if Maryland fails. It's all about the executions.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.
Except, they may be able to get a death penalty conviction from Maryland after failing to get the same from Virginia. And they still have Alabama waiting in the wings if Maryland fails. It's all about the executions.
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.
 

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Originally posted by: Meuge
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.

But, if the taxpayer money is not spend on this trial, it will be spend on other trials or other spending you would so-called waste. Beside, giving victims family sense of justice and closure shouldn't be a waste in my book.
Govt could be very wasteful and inefficient, but this is not one of them.
By the same argument as yours, some people would consider helping with operation for kids with brain tumor would be a waste of taxpayers money, especially if the kids didn't survive, or if the kids parents can actually afford the operation, but choose to rely on govt hand-out, wouldn't that consider a waste of taxpayer money using your argument?

 

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Originally posted by: cpumaster
Originally posted by: Meuge
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.

But, if the taxpayer money is not spend on this trial, it will be spend on other trials or other spending you would so-called waste. Beside, giving victims family sense of justice and closure shouldn't be a waste in my book.
Govt could be very wasteful and inefficient, but this is not one of them.
By the same argument as yours, some people would consider helping with operation for kids with brain tumor would be a waste of taxpayers money, especially if the kids didn't survive, or if the kids parents can actually afford the operation, but choose to rely on govt hand-out, wouldn't that consider a waste of taxpayer money using your argument?

It is a waste of money, because there's probably already a couple dozen shanks with his name on them anyway. Stick him in general and let the other dirtbags do the work for free.
 

jimkyser

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.
Except, they may be able to get a death penalty conviction from Maryland after failing to get the same from Virginia. And they still have Alabama waiting in the wings if Maryland fails. It's all about the executions.
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I am firmly against the use of the death penalty. And it's not that some lowlifes, like Muhammad, don't deserve it. It's that we've shown unbelievable inability to dish it out with any kind of guarantee that the person we're executing is guilty or with anything close to fairness across all socioeconomic/racial/religious/seriousness of crime lines.
 

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Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.
Except, they may be able to get a death penalty conviction from Maryland after failing to get the same from Virginia. And they still have Alabama waiting in the wings if Maryland fails. It's all about the executions.
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I am firmly against the use of the death penalty. And it's not that some lowlifes, like Muhammad, don't deserve it. It's that we've shown unbelievable inability to dish it out with any kind of guarantee that the person we're executing is guilty or with anything close to fairness across all socioeconomic/racial/religious/seriousness of crime lines.

It would be better to execute 1 innocent person for every thousand we execute. At least in this sense we rid society of 999 people who cause to disrupt it, yet only lose 1 person for this freedom and safety. Specially considering the rest and closure you might give to the countless lives those 999 people affected.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: cpumaster
Originally posted by: Meuge
I honestly could care less. If it costs taxpayers $1M+ to have him executed, then they're not executing him, but rather the 10 kids with brain tumors who are going to die because they can't afford the operation.

******.

But, if the taxpayer money is not spend on this trial, it will be spend on other trials or other spending you would so-called waste. Beside, giving victims family sense of justice and closure shouldn't be a waste in my book.
Govt could be very wasteful and inefficient, but this is not one of them.
By the same argument as yours, some people would consider helping with operation for kids with brain tumor would be a waste of taxpayers money, especially if the kids didn't survive, or if the kids parents can actually afford the operation, but choose to rely on govt hand-out, wouldn't that consider a waste of taxpayer money using your argument?
Golda Meir once said that: "We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us."

Why do I bring it up here? Because I think the same sentiment applies. It seems that some people in our society think that dealing in death is more important than dealing in life. I disagree... and so I am pursuing a career in medicine. But it doesn't mean I have to be content with their views from my corner of the world.

I don't think any amount of closure given to the families of victims will be more important than not creating more grieving families. Frankly, if anyone should become sick with a condition they cannot afford to treat, I really wish it would be the people who would deny healthcare to others.

Surely there are limits to what the society can afford... but I can hardly see a more clear-cut situation, when spending millions of taxpayer dollars borders on criminal neglect.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: RichardE
It would be better to execute 1 innocent person for every thousand we execute. At least in this sense we rid society of 999 people who cause to disrupt it, yet only lose 1 person for this freedom and safety. Specially considering the rest and closure you might give to the countless lives those 999 people affected.
That's really scary... If 1 in 1000 is fine by you, what about 1 in 100, or 1 in 10, or every other... Surely we can at least cut the crime in half if we shoot 1/2 of the population.

Who decides how many innocent deaths are ok? You?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: RichardE
It would be better to execute 1 innocent person for every thousand we execute. At least in this sense we rid society of 999 people who cause to disrupt it, yet only lose 1 person for this freedom and safety. Specially considering the rest and closure you might give to the countless lives those 999 people affected.
That's really scary... If 1 in 1000 is fine by you, what about 1 in 100, or 1 in 10, or every other... Surely we can at least cut the crime in half if we shoot 1/2 of the population.

Who decides how many innocent deaths are ok? You?

We could have saved those 10 kids with brain tumors if we took my approach. Would have had the money, or is ensuring that 1/1000 more important than than 10,20,30 kids we could have saved with the money instead.


And what do you mean who decides it? Just keep the system we have now and kill people within 6 months of there guilty verdict.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: RichardE
It would be better to execute 1 innocent person for every thousand we execute. At least in this sense we rid society of 999 people who cause to disrupt it, yet only lose 1 person for this freedom and safety. Specially considering the rest and closure you might give to the countless lives those 999 people affected.
That's really scary... If 1 in 1000 is fine by you, what about 1 in 100, or 1 in 10, or every other... Surely we can at least cut the crime in half if we shoot 1/2 of the population.

Who decides how many innocent deaths are ok? You?

We could have saved those 10 kids with brain tumors if we took my approach. Would have had the money, or is ensuring that 1/1000 more important than than 10,20,30 kids we could have saved with the money instead.
Actually, the answer to that can be found in every entry-level ethics class, where you examine the possibility of using the organs of one person to save the lives of many others.

The utility of living without fear of being dismembered for your organs, when applied to the entire population, supercedes the utility of saving people by those means. Same in this case. We're only weighing 2 things, rather than the entire system:

1. Spend $1M (more) than it is required to incarcerate this man, to kill him.
2. Continue incarcerating him, but finance 10 $100k surgeries.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: RichardE
It would be better to execute 1 innocent person for every thousand we execute. At least in this sense we rid society of 999 people who cause to disrupt it, yet only lose 1 person for this freedom and safety. Specially considering the rest and closure you might give to the countless lives those 999 people affected.
That's really scary... If 1 in 1000 is fine by you, what about 1 in 100, or 1 in 10, or every other... Surely we can at least cut the crime in half if we shoot 1/2 of the population.

Who decides how many innocent deaths are ok? You?

We could have saved those 10 kids with brain tumors if we took my approach. Would have had the money, or is ensuring that 1/1000 more important than than 10,20,30 kids we could have saved with the money instead.
Actually, the answer to that can be found in every entry-level ethics class, where you examine the possibility of using the organs of one person to save the lives of many others.

The utility of living without fear of being dismembered for your organs, when applied to the entire population, supercedes the utility of saving people by those means. Same in this case. We're only weighing 2 things, rather than the entire system:

1. Spend $1M (more) than it is required to incarcerate this man, to kill him.
2. Continue incarcerating him, but finance 10 $100k surgeries.

What if you were able to shorten the death sentence holding to 6 months. After this period the person is executed. Everytime you are able to do this, the funds that would have been used/alloted to incarecerate him for the next 20 years can be used to provide surgeries to children who could not afford it.

If we made the execution system efficient we could divert the unused funds to health care. Not only that, but prison population would go down, fear of commiting a crime will go down. (Yes, I know statistics for this say otherwise, but what if every criminal knew they would die very shortly after the crime was commited and not be able to go through a ton of appeals and have a chance to get off.).

We are too busy making sure the scum of our society gets right that we don't see how giving those rights affect our life. Personally, if you are capable to step outside of societies boundries in such a abdominal way that you would get the death penalty, than you deserve to die quickly, if not also painfully.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: RichardE
What if you were able to shorten the death sentence holding to 6 months. After this period the person is executed. Everytime you are able to do this, the funds that would have been used/alloted to incarecerate him for the next 20 years can be used to provide surgeries to children who could not afford it.
And we'd be executing tons of people who are innocent of the crimes they're accused of. Without an effective appeals process, anyone accused and successfully convicted of a capital offense would undoubtedly be put to death. And if you think convicting innocent people is hard, think again. I have had people in a jury pool tell me flat out that they'd vote "guilty" in any trial where I was tried, simply because I was a white educated jew. Likewise, I am sure that southern racists would be ecstatic at this opportunity to execute more black people.

We wouldn't need to worry about the costs of imprisoning people, if we just stopped putting them in prison for smoking a joint. I bet if we got rid of all minor drug offenses, we'd cut our prison population to 1/3 the size. Out of that pool, if you look at the number that are serving life in prison, I'd venture a guess that the cost of their keep would turn out a lot lower than you think.

Originally posted by: RichardENot only that, but prison population would go down, fear of commiting a crime will go down. (Yes, I know statistics for this say otherwise, but what if every criminal knew they would die very shortly after the crime was commited and not be able to go through a ton of appeals and have a chance to get off.).
But you already know you're wrong... why do you bring that argument here? There are 2 main types of crimes - crimes of passion (where noone thinks of the consequences) and crimes of premeditation (where people are usually either crazy, or live in circumstances that may leave them dead at any time, thus dulling their fear to nil, especially since the deaths they face on the street would likely be far less merciful).
Originally posted by: RichardE
We are too busy making sure the scum of our society gets right that we don't see how giving those rights affect our life. Personally, if you are capable to step outside of societies boundries in such a abdominal way that you would get the death penalty, than you deserve to die quickly, if not also painfully.
No, what we're doing is putting the rights of the innocents before the guttural need for revenge.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: RichardE
What if you were able to shorten the death sentence holding to 6 months. After this period the person is executed. Everytime you are able to do this, the funds that would have been used/alloted to incarecerate him for the next 20 years can be used to provide surgeries to children who could not afford it.
And we'd be executing tons of people who are innocent of the crimes they're accused of. Without an effective appeals process, anyone accused and successfully convicted of a capital offense would undoubtedly be put to death. And if you think convicting innocent people is hard, think again. I have had people in a jury pool tell me flat out that they'd vote "guilty" in any trial where I was tried, simply because I was a white educated jew. Likewise, I am sure that southern racists would be ecstatic at this opportunity to execute more black people.

We wouldn't need to worry about the costs of imprisoning people, if we just stopped putting them in prison for smoking a joint. I bet if we got rid of all minor drug offenses, we'd cut our prison population to 1/3 the size. Out of that pool, if you look at the number that are serving life in prison, I'd venture a guess that the cost of their keep would turn out a lot lower than you think.

Originally posted by: RichardENot only that, but prison population would go down, fear of commiting a crime will go down. (Yes, I know statistics for this say otherwise, but what if every criminal knew they would die very shortly after the crime was commited and not be able to go through a ton of appeals and have a chance to get off.).
But you already know you're wrong... why do you bring that argument here? There are 2 main types of crimes - crimes of passion (where noone thinks of the consequences) and crimes of premeditation (where people are usually either crazy, or live in circumstances that may leave them dead at any time, thus dulling their fear to nil, especially since the deaths they face on the street would likely be far less merciful).
Originally posted by: RichardE
We are too busy making sure the scum of our society gets right that we don't see how giving those rights affect our life. Personally, if you are capable to step outside of societies boundries in such a abdominal way that you would get the death penalty, than you deserve to die quickly, if not also painfully.
No, what we're doing is putting the rights of the innocents before the guttural need for revenge.

The system would become more efficient, as well as scrutinized more with such a short wait between convitction and execution. With this happening the appeal process would not be required to the level it is now.

Your two types of crimes I agree with, but still, no matter the circumstances, if a person is able to achieve the level of hate or anger needed to commit murder than they should be executed. Obviously self defence would not apply here. I still stand by my fact that with a massive revamp with emphasis on quick executions for a multitude of offences your crime rate would drop drastically. (See a few ME countries and the quick public executions and there crime rates.)

I agree with you on the pot ect. Of course I advocate legalizing, producing and taxing all drugs, which will never happen in a theocracy (The US's or Canada's (Thank you Harper)).

The need for revenge is not the issue, the issue is deterent. Again, look at the few ME countries where fast, swift public punishment is used. If we implemented that here, how many would be gangbangers ect would think twice knowing if they are caught they are dead within 6 months, not 20 years upstate like they do now.
 

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
He was already convicted. He is already doing life without parole. He was already going to die in prison.

Just another waste of taxpayer money. Totally absurb. The US criminal justice sytem at work. Idiots.

Who knows, someday you may require the systems perceived flaws to get yourself a fair trial?
 
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