Multiple deputies fired after 2 Black men file lawsuit alleging torture and attempted sexual assault in Mississippi

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Amused

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I'm speaking facts, you don't want to hear that, don't you?

No, you're not. You're speaking pure opinions. Overtly biased and racist opinions at that.

And you're not even addressing the subject of this thread. At all.

You came in with: "Police should not interact with Black people."

How in the actual fuck does that address the fact that cops tortured and raped two men???

I repeat, get the fuck out of my thread.
 

GettyRoad

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No, you're not. You're speaking pure opinions. Overtly biased and racist opinions at that.

And you're not even addressing the subject of this thread. At all.

You came in with: "Police should not interact with Black people."

How in the actual fuck does that address the fact that cops tortured and raped two men???


I repeat, get the fuck out of my thread.
It does.

What those animal cops did is exactly why I said what I said, police and Blacks don't mix.

Connect the dots and stop getting so emotional.
 

Indus

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I'm speaking facts, you don't want to hear that, don't you?

I created a conspiracy theory thread if you wanted to post silly shit but if that's your facts.. go post on stormfront or some forum like that.

Just leave us the fuck alone please!
 

Stokely

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Nice to see a bit of justice, not an easy thing to actually get bad cops put away. They have to be really dumb, really psychotic, or both to get pulled from behind the blue wall.

I'm all for good cops getting paid and continuing to be able to serve the public as their own slogans say. The bad ones that break rules don't get excuses, any more than I would were they to arrest me for the things they are accused of. Don't like the job? Quit and find something else. I dropped out of a teaching internship many years ago in favor of IT, because I could see it was going to be misery dealing with parents, the school system and stacks of bullshit, all for shit pay.
 

iRONic

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Only slightly related… the Washington county Indiana sheriffs department put out a notice last night that they will not cover the night shift. Reason being: they are under staffed. 16 positions are required only ten are filled. ISP stated they would cover the county at night.

Starting pay in that county for sheriffs was $48k. Every surrounding county had starting pay of $15k or more.
 
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Bah, on ignore Getty goes. It isn’t worth the time to parse the nonsense.

Now if the rest of the people on here would stop amplifying dogshit accounts like that one. Instead we get them endlessly responding to every single post.

That goes triple for the way they were attempting to derail this thread, trying to cover up rampant misconduct like this by police and instead trying to foment racial tension and portraying this purely as a race issue (that isn't about dealing with blatant racism by police), let alone with their steamwhistle (can't call it a dogwhistle when they're not even attempting to hide it) call for segregation. People need to stop letting this clown to turn every thread into a circus. Same with the Modi dingleberry pulling the exact same shit with regards to Indian politics, or the Russian Goathumper in the Ukraine thread. Recognize they're deliberately trying to incite reactions and instead focus on worthwhile discussion.
 
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GettyRoad

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Imagine a story of a serial rapist where @GettyRoad offers a solution men and women just shouldn't mix.
You hate police, why would you want them around? Police and Black people should not interact, that would end the entire problem right there.

Black Panthers can protect Black people as they said they would have in the 60s. Have community policing. The rest of America, specifically white America would remain with the police. Latinos, Arabs, etc. should look for their own services as well.
 

Stokely

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Curious who protects mixed-race people then. Especially considering few people are really 100% anything or even 50/50--most "black" people have white euro blood in them, and *gasp* a lot of whities have african. Or black people in "white" neighborhoods? Or vice versa. And what about Native American mixes? Chinese? Indian (they can be pretty dark, so this could get messy...)

I reckon there would be a lot of upset people were they to run out and get one of those ancestor tests!

Maybe the solution is to first segregate people back out so it's easier to set up where the policing will be. Combine with genetic testing so all the mixed-race people will have mixed-race police and so on! the 80% and up Euros (the northern euros anyway) can go in one stack and so on. It'll be quite the challenge though, no lie. We'll need a lot of funding for it. And some better gates on neighborhoods so the "races" can't mix--those dang things break all the time!

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And to get less ridiculous (as much as all that silliness probably sound appealing to some):

Few people hate cops doing their job. Most people hate it when cops abuse their power while doing that job. And then the rest of them attempt to cover it up. I'd be all for paying cops more than they get if it came with responsibility. No more mysterious turned-off bodycam footage. No more blue wall.
 

ch33zw1z

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You hate police, why would you want them around? Police and Black people should not interact, that would end the entire problem right there.

Black Panthers can protect Black people as they said they would have in the 60s. Have community policing. The rest of America, specifically white America would remain with the police. Latinos, Arabs, etc. should look for their own services as well.

So, segregate them?
 

GettyRoad

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Curious who protects mixed-race people then. Especially considering few people are really 100% anything or even 50/50--most "black" people have white euro blood in them, and *gasp* a lot of whities have african. Or black people in "white" neighborhoods? Or vice versa. And what about Native American mixes? Chinese? Indian (they can be pretty dark, so this could get messy...)

I reckon there would be a lot of upset people were they to run out and get one of those ancestor tests!

Maybe the solution is to first segregate people back out so it's easier to set up where the policing will be. Combine with genetic testing so all the mixed-race people will have mixed-race police and so on! the 80% and up Euros (the northern euros anyway) can go in one stack and so on. It'll be quite the challenge though, no lie. We'll need a lot of funding for it. And some better gates on neighborhoods so the "races" can't mix--those dang things break all the time!

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And to get less ridiculous (as much as all that silliness probably sound appealing to some):

Few people hate cops doing their job. Most people hate it when cops abuse their power while doing that job. And then the rest of them attempt to cover it up. I'd be all for paying cops more than they get if it came with responsibility. No more mysterious turned-off bodycam footage. No more blue wall.
Wrong, a lot of people hate those that report crime, they call them "snitches" and "rats", "traitors". A lot of crime is underreported or even unsolved in these black communities. A lot of people hate cops for just wearing the uniform, the uniform, etc. is seen as a problem as well. ACAB and all these groups are the leaders of these communities. All these rappers and athletes hate cops, the white musicians too.

The only pro-police people are some country music singers, rightwing and moderate politicians. Not even libertarians like the cops.

Yes, I get that police brutality/excessive force is a problem, and it should be reformed but there is too much anger for this to be resolved...

There should be psych exams so those Mississippi bigots couldn't of entered the policing field in the first place....
 
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ch33zw1z

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Wrong, a lot of people hate those that report crime, they call them "snitches" and "rats", "traitors". A lot of crime is underreported or even unsolved in these black communities. A lot of people hate cops for just wearing the uniform, the uniform, etc. is seen as a problem as well. ACAB and all these groups are the leaders of these communities. All these rappers and athletes hate cops, the white musicians too.

The only pro-police people are some country music singers, rightwing and moderate politicians. Not even libertarians like the cops.

Yes, I get that police brutality/excessive force is a problem, and

No, stokely is correct. The cops in general have given themselves a bad name. And when anyone wants to change that by making them accountable, they just stop doing their jobs or amp up the abuse of power. Why? Cuz no consequences.
 

GettyRoad

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So, segregate them?
Get police out of those areas in general. Black cops aren't any better, Latino cops are seen as racist too....

Blacks despise police because police were the muscle of white supremacy, there is not much that can be changed about that. It's best for Black Americans to be left to their own devices and police themselves without some "law enforcement"
 
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GettyRoad

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No, stokely is correct. The cops in general have given themselves a bad name. And when anyone wants to change that by making them accountable, they just stop doing their jobs or amp up the abuse of power. Why? Cuz no consequences.
Because the people calling for accountability are not seen as knowing what it is like to be a cop, so it causes the typical back and forth argument without some happy medium.
 
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Stokely

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Ok, so what's the cutoff for "those areas"? See that's where it gets fun.

My neighborhood is pretty mixed, but I'd guess mostly white if I had to think about it. But "white"--some of those folks might have some dark in them, if you know what I mean Some of them (like my own kids) are obvious mixes of two ethnicities, but one kid WAY more than another! So logistically, how can it be done? What are the cutoffs for both "whiteness" of a neighborhood, and "whiteness" of ethnicity for each resident as determined by some measure?

I'd hate to think I couldn't call the cops because we had too much "off color" happening on the block! Maybe some burning crosses can convince the Joneses down the street to sell, once they go we'll be under the threshold.

Then, let's say you work all that out--will there be rules to prevent dilution of the pure areas where police will still be?

Bottom line -- cops are hired to do their jobs. They are paid. They have nominal rules of conduct. If they break those rules they should be held accountable. Just like if I harassed someone at my job or in the public for that matter, no matter what the reason, I'm going to pay the price for it. If I felt that was too difficult, there are other lines of work for me. And "harassed" is a pretty tame description if it comes to the worst of them, those that kill people for no damn good reason.

Edit: and I actually do agree with the mental health filtering. What are the chances the police associations are going to go along with that, assuming it's something serious and done right? I'd say somewhere right around 0%. That said--if it's anything like those personality tests (myers briggs etc) that some workplaces do, you can fool those easily if you care to. I cared to, and did just that when we did those in our dept just to troll my boss I picked a different persona and answered appropriately. I'd hope a mental health test would not be something you could trick.
 
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WelshBloke

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Get police out of those areas in general. Black cops aren't any better, Latino cops are seen as racist too....

Blacks despise police because police were the muscle of white supremacy, there is not much that can be changed about that. It's best for Black Americans to be left to their own devices and police themselves without some "law enforcement"
You do understand that we don't need you to speak for all the black people in America?
Funnily enough there are black Americans in this thread telling you that you are full of shit.
 
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allisolm

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If anyone is interested in the sentencing of the actual criminals in the thread, as a break from feeding the craziness that is GettyRoad, here is all of it


Christian Dedmon, 40 yrs
Brett McAlpin 27 yrs 1/2 yrs
Hunter Elward 17 1/2 yrs
Daniel Opdyke 17 1/2 yrs
Jeffrey Middleton 17 1/2 yrs
Joshua Hartfield 10 years
 

ch33zw1z

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Get police out of those areas in general. Black cops aren't any better, Latino cops are seen as racist too....

Blacks despise police because police were the muscle of white supremacy, there is not much that can be changed about that. It's best for Black Americans to be left to their own devices and police themselves without some "law enforcement"

So segregation.
 

GettyRoad

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Ok, so what's the cutoff for "those areas"? See that's where it gets fun.

My neighborhood is pretty mixed, but I'd guess mostly white if I had to think about it. But "white"--some of those folks might have some dark in them, if you know what I mean Some of them (like my own kids) are obvious mixes of two ethnicities, but one kid WAY more than another! So logistically, how can it be done? What are the cutoffs for both "whiteness" of a neighborhood, and "whiteness" of ethnicity for each resident as determined by some measure?

I'd hate to think I couldn't call the cops because we had too much "off color" happening on the block! Maybe some burning crosses can convince the Joneses down the street to sell, once they go we'll be under the threshold.

Then, let's say you work all that out--will there be rules to prevent dilution of the pure areas where police will still be?

Bottom line -- cops are hired to do their jobs. They are paid. They have nominal rules of conduct. If they break those rules they should be held accountable. Just like if I harassed someone at my job or in the public for that matter, no matter what the reason, I'm going to pay the price for it. If I felt that was too difficult, there are other lines of work for me. And "harassed" is a pretty tame description if it comes to the worst of them, those that kill people for no damn good reason.

Edit: and I actually do agree with the mental health filtering. What are the chances the police associations are going to go along with that, assuming it's something serious and done right? I'd say somewhere right around 0%. That said--if it's anything like those personality tests (myers briggs etc) that some workplaces do, you can fool those easily if you care to. I cared to, and did just that when we did those in our dept just to troll my boss I picked a different persona and answered appropriately. I'd hope a mental health test would not be something you could trick.
It happens when dispatchers are asking you, what is your race. Dispatchers should start asking what your race is.
Why would you want white racist cops to come to your aid?
 
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Stokely

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Well, you've got it all figured out.

Here's the thing that you and a lot of people are going to increasingly hate (and some of these people to be fair ain't white)--it's a mixed society. And getting more so. That genie ain't going back in the bottle. "Black neighborhood" and "White neighborhood" aren't going to mean a hell of a lot.

Cops are going to be on camera pretty much 100% of the time. Cameras are everywhere even if they like to say "oops, how weird that the bodycam was off when we were arresting that guy." If that bothers any of them, might want to switch to Dollar store clerk or crypto fund manager.
 
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Thump553

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If anyone is interested in the sentencing of the actual criminals in the thread, as a break from feeding the craziness that is GettyRoad, here is all of it


Christian Dedmon, 40 yrs
Brett McAlpin 27 yrs 1/2 yrs
Hunter Elward 17 1/2 yrs
Daniel Opdyke 17 1/2 yrs
Jeffrey Middleton 17 1/2 yrs
Joshua Hartfield 10 years

TY for getting this thread back on track. I, for one, am very impressed with the speed and manner in which this matter was handled, and the real sentences given for these horrible crimes. I'm very glad to see this was properly handled.

Unfortunately not only will the victims suffer from these horrible crimes but the local taxpayers will most likely foot the cost of the damages caused to the victims as well as suffering lower police protection for the near future.
 
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