Multiple fatalities in shooting at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church

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mizzou

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I'd rather address the poverty and mental health issues that are the root cause of crimes like these. This is not a gun issue, this is a social violence issue. But guns are easy to target for those who fear them.

And if you really would shy away from having kids because of American gun violence you only show your ignorance. All violent crime, including gun crime, is going down and has been going down for over 10 years nationally. These mass shootings are a drop in the bucket compared to what Chicago suffers in a single month.

http://time.com/3577026/crime-rates-drop-1970s/

i agree with you. thwre is actually new stats showing violent crime is now on an uptick in many major cities
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.

I hope you're just trolling. If you aren't, you're embarrassing yourself.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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I take prednisone (corticosteroid) for Polymyalgia Rheumatica and when I was taking high doses I occasionally experienced Roid Rage symptoms. No where in the information for prednisone does it warn about it causing rage/anger. I think there's a strong possibility that suboxone could cause violent tendencies.


Actually, it is one of known and listed side effects of high dose steriods, with milder side effects of the same variant being depression, anxiety, irritability, among others.

Not the most common of side effects, but is well known to happen.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.

"Subhuman mongrel"? All right, you must be trolling. You're starting to sound like a villain from a 90s fantasy B movie.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.

 

Blanky

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Oct 18, 2014
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.
I liked it when earlier in the thread somebody called you a racist cuntwagon.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.


At least we have indoor plumbing and quit shitting in the street a century ago, unlike some countries that have a problem with getting individuals to use sanitary facilities, even when they're installed for them for free.
 

DrDoug

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Jan 16, 2014
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Überhaupt nicht - man ist in Amerika ist ein Ergebnis der Völkermord, Diebstahl und Sklaverei der Eingeborenen, die seit Tausenden von Jahren hier gelebt haben. Ihre kranke Scheiße Gehirnhälfte und wertlos Vorfahren aus dem Kot von Europe (Ireland) kam hier illegal und brachten Tod und Krankheit - oh, und Ihre Zombie-Anbetung "Werte".

funny eine Untermenschen Mischlings würde um Respekt zu sprechen. Ihre Kultur ist von Verbrechen getragen; das ist eine Tatsache.

Auch ist dieses Forum nicht deine letzte Mal überprüft - es wurde von einem indischen erstellt - Sie wissen - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Westlichen Kultur ist nichts - Unberührbaren über "Werte" sprechen, ist Heuchelei.

Lernen Sie Ihren Platz (weit unter den Analphabeten Waldbewohner von Indien) und von hier.

Yup, sounds better in the original German. More authoritarian!
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Not at all - you being in America is a result of genocide, theft, and slavery of natives who've lived here for thousands of years. your diseased, shit-brained and worthless ancestors from the excrement of Europe (ireland) came here illegally and brought death and disease - oh, and your zombie worshiping "values."

funny a subhuman mongrel would talk about respect. your culture is borne of crime; that is a fact.

Also, this forum is not yours last time I checked - it was created by an Indian - you know - "Anand" in Anandtech.

Western culture is naught - untouchables talking about 'values' is hypocrisy.

Learn your place (far beneath the illiterate forest-dwellers of India) and get out of here.

Actually most of the original colonists were from Lowland Scotland and England.

And your use of the word untouchables especially given the history of India makes your talk about morality hypocritical and entertaining.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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At least we have indoor plumbing and quit shitting in the street a century ago, unlike some countries that have a problem with getting individuals to use sanitary facilities, even when they're installed for them for free.

Crapping in the street is a sign of superior culture. Indoor plumbing is so low brow.
 
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Well, if the drug deflection doesn't work we can always try changing the motivation.

It's a war on Christianity:

"South Carolina Senator and presidential candidate Lindsey Graham questioned whether this was a “hate crime” and tried to suggest factors other than race were involved. “There are real people who are organized out there to kill people in religion and based on race, this guy’s just whacked out,” Graham said on the TV show "The View." "But it’s 2015. There are people out there looking for Christians to kill them.”

"On the same program, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani also confessed to being baffled about possible motives. "We have no idea what's in his mind," he said. "Maybe he hates Christian churches. Maybe he hates black churches or he's gonna go find another one. Who knows."

"Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, currently running for the GOP presidential nomination, linked the church murder to his pet topic, the “assault” on religious liberty. "You talk about the importance of prayer in this time and we’re now seeing assaults on our religious liberty we’ve never seen before,” Santorum said. “It’s a time for deeper reflection beyond this horrible situation," he said."

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122072/charleston-suspect-racist-republicans-claim-his-motives

or

“We’re urging people wait for the facts, don’t jump to conclusions,” Jackson said. “But I’m telling you, I’m deeply concerned that this gunman chose to go into a church, because there does seem to be a rising hostility against Christians across this country because of our biblical views. I just think it’s something that we have to be aware of and not create an atmosphere in which people take out their violent intentions against Christians.”

"“Extraordinarily they called it a hate crime,” Doocy said. “Some look at it because it was a white guy apparently at a black church. But you just made a great point a moment ago about hostility towards Christians. And it was a church. So maybe that’s what they’re talking about. They haven’t explained it to us.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._it_s_extraordinary_that_they_re_calling.html
 

michal1980

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Mar 7, 2003
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Well, if the drug deflection doesn't work we can always try changing the motivation.

It's a war on Christianity:

"South Carolina Senator and presidential candidate Lindsey Graham questioned whether this was a “hate crime” and tried to suggest factors other than race were involved. “There are real people who are organized out there to kill people in religion and based on race, this guy’s just whacked out,” Graham said on the TV show "The View." "But it’s 2015. There are people out there looking for Christians to kill them.”

"On the same program, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani also confessed to being baffled about possible motives. "We have no idea what's in his mind," he said. "Maybe he hates Christian churches. Maybe he hates black churches or he's gonna go find another one. Who knows."

"Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, currently running for the GOP presidential nomination, linked the church murder to his pet topic, the “assault” on religious liberty. "You talk about the importance of prayer in this time and we’re now seeing assaults on our religious liberty we’ve never seen before,” Santorum said. “It’s a time for deeper reflection beyond this horrible situation," he said."

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122072/charleston-suspect-racist-republicans-claim-his-motives

or

“We’re urging people wait for the facts, don’t jump to conclusions,” Jackson said. “But I’m telling you, I’m deeply concerned that this gunman chose to go into a church, because there does seem to be a rising hostility against Christians across this country because of our biblical views. I just think it’s something that we have to be aware of and not create an atmosphere in which people take out their violent intentions against Christians.”

"“Extraordinarily they called it a hate crime,” Doocy said. “Some look at it because it was a white guy apparently at a black church. But you just made a great point a moment ago about hostility towards Christians. And it was a church. So maybe that’s what they’re talking about. They haven’t explained it to us.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._it_s_extraordinary_that_they_re_calling.html

Gald to see your not a hypocrite. /s

Oh wait you are.

If this was some Muslim that did the killing you'd be being over backwards defending the guy.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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this kid is a monster and definitely a sign of a real cultural problem

this is so sad

this thread is sad

life is sad
 

SheHateMe

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Jul 21, 2012
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White people sure love shooting up public places. How do we fix white culture?

Racist white people are even worried that people will misunderstand them due to this.

I love how Dylann's peers say he was soft spoken....not racist..but used to make a lot of racist jokes! He was a good boy who was just overly medicated! Lets not jump to conclusions on motive! Whats wrong with standing up for what you believe in!? (seriously...one of you assholes actually said this)


This whole situation makes me so angry. White people love talking about us so fucking much when one black person does something...ALL of us are considered the fucking same. You talk shit about what we do and don't value like you actually have a clue what we feel on an individual level. There are constant threads on why Black People do X or why Black People think Y, etc.

But, when a white person does something, he/she is always a lone wolf and their behaviors are not indicative of white culture or white values. Fuck this whole situation. The typical P&N dickheads are out in full effect too, no surprise there. Your dicks get so hard when a black person kills a white person or when a black kid gets shot, you can't wait to dive in with the character assasinations...but when white people kill.....lets discuss their mental state and how we can't jump to conclusions about this shit being race motivated.

This fucking forum, man.
 
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HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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White people sure love shooting up public places. How do we fix white culture?

Racist white people are even worried that people will misunderstand them due to this.

I love how Dylann's peers say he was soft spoken....not racist..but used to make a lot of racist jokes! He was a good boy who was just overly medicated! Lets not jump to conclusions on motive! Whats wrong with standing up for what you believe in!? (seriously...one of you assholes actually said this)


This whole situation makes me so angry. White people love talking about us so fucking much when one black person does something...ALL of us are considered the fucking same. You talk shit about what we do and don't value like you actually have a clue what we feel on an individual level. There are constant threads on why Black People do X or why Black People think Y, etc.

But, when a white person does something, he/she is always a lone wolf and their behaviors are not indicative of white culture or white values. Fuck this whole situation. The typical P&N dickheads are out in full effect too, no surprise there. Your dicks get so hard when a black person kills a white person or when a black kid gets shot, you can't wait to dive in with the character assasinations...but when white people kill.....lets discuss their mental state and how we can't jump to conclusions about this shit being race motivated.

This fucking forum, man.

To add more insult to the white privileged supremacist animal thug gun toting criminal culture... I mean since that's similar to how blacks are characterized even when falsely accused

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/s-confederate-flag-charleston-shooting-article-1.2263306

Spitting in the eye of black people in South Carolina.
 
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norseamd

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I love how Dylann's peers say he was soft spoken....not racist..but used to make a lot of racist jokes! He was a good boy who was just overly medicated! Lets not jump to conclusions on motive! Whats wrong with standing up for what you believe in!? (seriously...one of you assholes actually said this)

Where was this?

Have not been actually reading this discussion that much.
 

1prophet

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Aug 17, 2005
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White people sure love shooting up public places. How do we fix white culture?

Racist white people are even worried that people will misunderstand them due to this.

I love how Dylann's peers say he was soft spoken....not racist..but used to make a lot of racist jokes! He was a good boy who was just overly medicated! Lets not jump to conclusions on motive! Whats wrong with standing up for what you believe in!? (seriously...one of you assholes actually said this)


This whole situation makes me so angry. White people love talking about us so fucking much when one black person does something...ALL of us are considered the fucking same. You talk shit about what we do and don't value like you actually have a clue what we feel on an individual level. There are constant threads on why Black People do X or why Black People think Y, etc.

But, when a white person does something, he/she is always a lone wolf and their behaviors are not indicative of white culture or white values. Fuck this whole situation. The typical P&N dickheads are out in full effect too, no surprise there. Your dicks get so hard when a black person kills a white person or when a black kid gets shot, you can't wait to dive in with the character assasinations...but when white people kill.....lets discuss their mental state and how we can't jump to conclusions about this shit being race motivated.

This fucking forum, man.

He wasn't a good boy, he was mentally deranged and a racist, his racism is what caused him to pick a black church instead of a mall or other public place, his mental health whether induced by drugs or something else is what gave him the capability to sit at the bible study for almost an hour and then proceed to shoot at people like a video game without a hint of humanity, like some zombie or robot.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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White people sure love shooting up public places. How do we fix white culture?

Racist white people are even worried that people will misunderstand them due to this.

I love how Dylann's peers say he was soft spoken....not racist..but used to make a lot of racist jokes! He was a good boy who was just overly medicated! Lets not jump to conclusions on motive! Whats wrong with standing up for what you believe in!? (seriously...one of you assholes actually said this)

This whole situation makes me so angry. White people love talking about us so fucking much when one black person does something...ALL of us are considered the fucking same. You talk shit about what we do and don't value like you actually have a clue what we feel on an individual level. There are constant threads on why Black People do X or why Black People think Y, etc.

But, when a white person does something, he/she is always a lone wolf and their behaviors are not indicative of white culture or white values. Fuck this whole situation. The typical P&N dickheads are out in full effect too, no surprise there. Your dicks get so hard when a black person kills a white person or when a black kid gets shot, you can't wait to dive in with the character assasinations...but when white people kill.....lets discuss their mental state and how we can't jump to conclusions about this shit being race motivated.

This fucking forum, man.

Are you trying to say white culture and white values are to oppress everyone of darker skin color? Do you believe this to be true? Do you believe the other forum users believe this to be true? Please do elaborate on exactly what point you want to make.

Get over yourself. You always come into this subforum when there's a racial issue in the news and specifically seek out opportunities to be angry and outraged over.

I just spent a week away on vacation out west void of any politics, any news, and I come back to this thread I already need a new break away!
 

sportage

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Feb 1, 2008
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Right wing news coverage is nothing but disgusting.
Fox tries to ignore the truth staring them right in the face.
Its terrorist, not racist. We don't have a gun problem in America. This is just a fluke. Just a disturbed child. The heat, the cold, his shoes, his hat.
It's the F-ing guns, people !!!
Guns are guns, but in America we glorify the gun.
We make it cool to take out a classroom, a movie theater, a church with the biggest bad-ass gun out there.
And forget about a shot gun or a simple hand gun. L A M E. Pussy guns.
Give em assault weapons. Just like in war. The biggest bad-ass guns we can get our hands on.

The only factual hard cord proof that a gun loving off their rocker gun fanatic can ever change their stripes, is when gun violence hits home.
Their child, their spouse, their neighbor, their loved one gunned down like a dog.
Then, oddly enough they suddenly are all in favor of strict gun laws and bans on assault weapons.

Personally, I don't give a damn if there are responsible gun owners that can handle the ownership of assault weapons and weapons of mass destruction.
Or handle owning and collecting the biggest bad-ass guns ever manufactured.
I don't give a damn if it is their God given right to join clubs and organizations of responsible gun owners.
It's time they all found a different hobby.
Find something else to occupy their time, as we ban these assault weapons of mass destruction, and shut the NRA down as a terrorist enabler organization.
Which is exactly what the NRA is.

If America did not love her guns so, to the point of worshiping their very existence as they do their God, maybe just maybe all of this mass destruction in the class rooms, the theaters, and the churches would end.
And that obsessive attraction to mass murder might subside.

As Obama said in so many words, only in America has such a violent nature persisted.
Maybe we cannot rid society of the criminally insane, or the haters and bigots, or that nice quiet kid next door with bottled up violent tendencies.
But surely we can try and break the link between the gun and societies violent behavior.
 
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Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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If America did not love her guns so...

You stand for them to be unarmed, just as they were.
Sheep to the slaughter for any gunman that walks in.

America is supposed to stand for those folks to be armed, and able to defend themselves.
 

schneiderguy

Lifer
Jun 26, 2006
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Right wing news coverage is nothing but disgusting.
Fox tries to ignore the truth staring them right in the face.
Its terrorist, not racist. We don't have a gun problem in America. This is just a fluke. Just a disturbed child. The heat, the cold, his shoes, his hat.
It's the F-ing guns, people !!!
Guns are guns, but in America we glorify the gun.
We make it cool to take out a classroom, a movie theater, a church with the biggest bad-ass gun out there.
And forget about a shot gun or a simple hand gun. L A M E. Pussy guns.
Give em assault weapons. Just like in war. The biggest bad-ass guns we can get our hands on.

The only factual hard cord proof that a gun loving off their rocker gun fanatic can ever change their stripes, is when gun violence hits home.
Their child, their spouse, their neighbor, their loved one gunned down like a dog.
Then, oddly enough they suddenly are all in favor of strict gun laws and bans on assault weapons.

Personally, I don't give a damn if there are responsible gun owners that can handle the ownership of assault weapons and weapons of mass destruction.
Or handle owning and collecting the biggest bad-ass guns ever manufactured.
I don't give a damn if it is their God given right to join clubs and organizations of responsible gun owners.
It's time they all found a different hobby.
Find something else to occupy their time, as we ban these assault weapons of mass destruction, and shut the NRA down as a terrorist enabler organization.
Which is exactly what the NRA is.

If America did not love her guns so, to the point of worshiping their very existence as they do their God, maybe just maybe all of this mass destruction in the class rooms, the theaters, and the churches would end.
And that obsessive attraction to mass murder might subside.

As Obama said in so many words, only in America has such a violent nature persisted.
Maybe we cannot rid society of the criminally insane, or the haters and bigots, or that nice quiet kid next door with bottled up violent tendencies.
But surely we can try and break the link between the gun and societies violent behavior.

His .45mm wasn't even an assault weapon though. It only has a 7 round clip. We need to ban all of the guns and outlaw the NRA and its sister organization, the KKK.
 
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