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purbeast0

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Do you have an opinion on this?

I think anything remotely tied to his statement should be hung on him also.
I don't even know who that guy is I just read about him making that claim recently, so I find his backtracking hilarious.
 

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I don't even know who that guy is I just read about him making that claim recently, so I find his backtracking hilarious.

He's a sack of shit is what he is. His method is to lob controversies and then retreat. Incite emotional responses and divisiveness and slither away.
 
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ch33zw1z

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I don't even know who that guy is I just read about him making that claim recently, so I find his backtracking hilarious.

Read up, I find it hard to not know who he is since his blatant white pride is championed in our country now.
 

Phokus

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I believe Trump called the press "the enemy of the State"

Worse. He called the press the 'enemy of the people'. Guess what people are going to do if that's the case? At least our government isn't Russia where the government DOES murder journalists (yet), but random nutjobs absolutely will murder journalists with that kind of rhetoric.
 
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Atreus21

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Worse. He called the press the 'enemy of the people'. Guess what people are going to do if that's the case? At least our government isn't Russia where the government DOES murder journalists (yet), but random nutjobs absolutely will murder journalists with that kind of rhetoric.

Do you lay the attempt on Steve Scalise's life at the feet of progressives who have done little else than call republicans Nazis?
 

Phokus

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Do you lay the attempt on Steve Scalise's life at the feet of progressives who have done little else than call republicans Nazis?

Yeah, i remember the time Obama also once called for violence against his political enemies (see: Trump calling for violence against protestors)
 

Jaskalas

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Hey good on CNN for airing it in it's entirety. The gravity of what the press are facing with the constant attacks is lost on a lot of people.

Yeah, I suppose I never took time to think about the consequences our current political culture firestorm has on journalists. They're sort of on the front lines, and with a lot of hyped up and upset partisans out there it must feel like being squeezed in a vice.

OTOH, this shooter seems a lot more insane than political. (Yes, you can still tell those two apart)
 
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Atreus21

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Yeah, i remember the time Obama also once called for violence against his political enemies (see: Trump calling for violence against protestors)

Do you or don't you?

If vicious invective can be blamed for inciting deadly attacks, then democrats have their own to answer for no less than republicans.
 

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OTOH, this shooter seems a lot more insane than political. (Yes, you can still tell those two apart)

I think radical instead of political is the word I'm searching for. This guy was clearly obsessed with this situation.
 
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Yeah, I suppose I never took time to think about the consequences our current political culture firestorm has on journalists. They're sort of on the front lines, and with a lot of hyped up and upset partisans out there it must feel like being squeezed in a vice.

OTOH, this shooter seems a lot more insane than political. (Yes, you can still tell those two apart)
People forget why the freedom of the press was enshrined in the Constitution. People attack them for asking questions. They are rude for trying to press for information. They need to sit down and shut up. That is directly against what the founders envisioned as the entire reason for the press existing.

Jefferson:

"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure."

"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

Trump and his allies are doing everything they can to make people forget that the press is the only real way the people have of checking their leaders. They don't want anyone to believe anything but what they say. And we are there. That is the world that exists now with Trump's supporters.
 
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Commodus

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Do you lay the attempt on Steve Scalise's life at the feet of progressives who have done little else than call republicans Nazis?

Please don't equivocate and purposefully distort. Yes, I'm sure the rhetoric on the left didn't help, but that's one incident and not actually an attempt to instigate violence. Meanwhile, the President of the United States regularly calls the press the "enemy of the people," his supporters shout "lugenpresse" without rebuke, and influential conservatives like Milo explicitly encourage people to gun journalists down.

Let me know when Democratic leaders demonize Republicans to a level that promotes violence and then you can talk. Until then, you will accept the truth: that the provocations to violence are almost exclusively on the right.
 

fskimospy

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Do you or don't you?

If vicious invective can be blamed for inciting deadly attacks, then democrats have their own to answer for no less than republicans.

This is obviously false. The number of right wing terrorist attacks on Americans dwarfs the number of left wing attacks, by the government's own numbers. While anyone who encouraged violence against Scalise should have to answer for it the fact remains that conservatives are far, far more likely to engage in violent rhetoric and, most importantly, far FAR more likely to actually engage in politically motivated violence.

Terrorism in the US today is primarily a right wing phenomenon. It occurs even more frequently than Islamic terrorism.
 
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