Muscle cars - anyone have one?

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LordMorpheus

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I have had this car for 30 years, I drive it all the time, my only car, has went thru 3 engines, 3 rear ends, several clutches, rebuilt and re did just about everything in the car several times now, it is not a garage queen but still gets "nice car" compliments just about every place I park. Currently a 448 wedge, 4 speed, 373 dana powr lok 8-3/4. I just put in an updated A/C compressor and Condensor and modern mini starter. It needs paint but so what some kid would key it first day or it would get wrecked if I did that.

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This car is mean looking as all hell. The headers visible through the wheel well and the exhaust are just awesome. I love it. I bet it makes a great noise.

It looks like it'd be at home in a Mad Max movie.
 
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i have an 85 trans am. not really muscle by our standards today, but in another 10 years it will be.

I've got an 87 and had a 91 GTA. The TPI engines on the F-body cars I think is the coolest looking engine ever made.

My 87 is not stock and if 450hp is muscle then it's a muscle car, if it's not, then I guess I'm not in the club yet.
 

cardiac

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I've had a bunch of GM muscle cars over the last 34 years, (And one Plymouth). However, I got the most looks, and people stopping me to talk about the car, from my 1966 Impala wagon.



It was a blast to drive, ran pretty strong with a 327/Powerglide combo, and I could take about 10 friends cruising .

I sold it during one of the car shows I was showing it at. A fellow from out of state made me an obscene offer on it.....

Bob
 

StageLeft

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Anyone own a muscle car, particularly in the 60-70s era?

Post some pics if you do!

I unfortunately do not own one but I know a guy who has a 69 Camaro that he restored from really crappy condition. It looks NICE. He paid like $2500 for the car and about $15k to restore it. it's now worth about $40k. seems like a pretty nice investment if you have the money and time.

He also has a crappy condition 68 camaro sitting in his garage that he is going to restore as well.
He's told me I need to come over and help him with it, but I don't really know anything about cars, let alone restoring them. Seems like it might be a kind of fun/interesting thing to do though.
Lots of things are nice investments if you have money and time. All he did is, it sounds like, worked on behalf of a mechanic and paid himself.

I would love to own a muscle car. I must have one one day. It must have a V8. And if the neighbors say I'm a midlife crisis putz, so be it, they will be jealous driving their minivans and vws as I scorch up the street.

It's so cliche, but who cares.
 

Jeffg010

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Well my muscle car is not from the 60s I have fun with my 2005 Mustang GT

 

Raduque

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that doesn't count ^^^

Camaros and Mustangs don't really count period, if the closest thing to a Muscle car that exists today doesn't count.

They're pony cars, both too small and too light to be considered true muscle cars (midsized "intermediate" 2 and 4-door vehicles with extremely large engines).
 

JDub02

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my dad sold his 70 vette about a year ago. i was sad to see that car go.

he bought an 85 vette and a harley so it wasn't a complete loss.
 

ElFenix

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Camaros and Mustangs don't really count period, if the closest thing to a Muscle car that exists today doesn't count.

They're pony cars, both too small and too light to be considered true muscle cars (midsized "intermediate" 2 and 4-door vehicles with extremely large engines).

novas with big blocks were most definitely muscle cars.
 

Billb2

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Not muscle, which I've owned a few of, but fast.
IMSA lites, Sebring in two weeks, I crew chief.

 

TehMac

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Well, muscle cars and pony cars are pretty much the same thing--to most people anyway.

While us, the Sports Car Savvy Elite know the differences, no one else does, so I don't bother making too big a distinction.

Personally, I prefer pony cars because they are compact and tend to handle better. They're canyon carvers.
 

SonicIce

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Post some pics if you do!

I unfortunately do not own one but I know a guy who has a 69 Camaro that he restored from really crappy condition. It looks NICE. He paid like $2500 for the car and about $15k to restore it. it's now worth about $40k.

you broke your own rule lol
 

Obsoleet

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Dad has:
1970 Buick GSX SS Stage 1 (yellow/black)
1966 Chevelle SS fuel injected 427BB w/Vortec MondoXX blower (black)
1957 Chevy Belair
1966 Chevy El Camino
196x Chevy II/Nova

probably a few more I'm forgetting about. His Duramax diesel is actually faster than most people's muscle cars.

Brother has a 1987 Buick Grand National. The best production car of the 80s and only thing deserving anything close to "muscle car" from the garbage years, even though it was a turbo 6.

I have no muscle cars anymore, closest I owned was a 93 LT1 Firebird Formula with Keith Black forged pistons, ported heads and 3800 stall. Different lifters and springs but forget what now. It ran good and got 23MPG highway. Closest thing the 90s had to offer to muscle.

Nothing I own would qualify as muscle cars for sure. I own a manual 2005 Chevy Corvette (C6) and a manual 2007 Pontiac G5 (daily driver).

Raping Mustangs and foreign cars has been a multigenerational hobby.
 
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joesmoke

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a 93 fb formula is the closest thing to muscle in the 90's?? arent there... ya know... faster years of that same car in the 90's? Or did you just mean YOUR special car?
 

Obsoleet

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Well, yeah the LS1 is better. I was referring to the 90s Camaros/Firebirds in general. Mine was the only year that had no mass airflow sensor which was nice. The Firehawks were great for their day.
 

exdeath

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'03 Cobra, modern muscle.

It's built on what might have been a pony car platform, but that SVT emblem says it's not a pony car by a long shot. But still doesn't deserve to be listed with real classic old school big block muscle (50's-70's). It's just not the same.

You'll only make the mistake of saying "lol lets smoke that 'Mustang' " once and only once. After that you'll teach yourself very quickly to identify every minor distinguishing detail unique to the 03-04 SVT Terminator and get good at spotting them BEFORE you decide to roll up to the light.

Likewise you'll only make the mistake once of letting a ported Eaton or KB/Whipple pass you with your driver side window down on a nice cool day.
 
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TehMac

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'03 Cobra, modern muscle.

It's built on what might have been a pony car platform, but that SVT emblem says it's not a pony car by a long shot.

I'm not sure I get this. Pony cars refer to the long hood/short deck lid formula the Barracuda and Mustang really pioneered in '64.

Do you mean your mustang is more of a sports car? I think that'd be fair enough. Btw, did you remove the IRS and put on a SRA, or did you keep the IRS?
 

Meghan54

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Only one car that could have been considered a muscle car:

1969 Olds 442 W30 convert. Owned it in the early 1970's. Loved that car....wish I still had it.
 

TehMac

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Only one car that could have been considered a muscle car:

1969 Olds 442 W30 convert. Owned it in the early 1970's. Loved that car....wish I still had it.

I always thought that thing looked a bit...cumbersome. What did you think?
 

Meghan54

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I always thought that thing looked a bit...cumbersome. What did you think?


Clean, flowing lines front to back, road smooth as hell.....handled quite nicely for what it was way back then. Pretty loaded for a muscle car, too....A/C, tilt.

And it was quick and fast for its size. After all, it was a not-so-small car. It did hold its own most times, but I did get dusted, eventually, by a Cuda with a hemi under the hood. (We'd race late at night/early morning on the southbound express lanes on I-95 in No. VA, like around Fairfax/Arlington down past Springfield.)

True, it was and still is a big car, but managed to combine good ride and decent handling with speed. The Buicks of the era, the GS series, were comparable to the Olds 442's as far as comfort and speed combined.

The other GM's of that size, like the Chevelle and GTO, were much more focused on speed and fewer creature comforts.
 

Obsoleet

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Can you take pictures of that engine bay? I imagine your dad installed the fuel injection himself?

I'd be happy to. I've been needing to get some good photos of his cars for a long time. He's running out of storage room for them all so they're fairly tightly packed in anymore, which is a shame (been trying to get him to build a new building for them).

I'll take my Panasonic with me this weekend over to his house and get a shot for you. Yes, he did all the work himself. I believe the fuel injection system is Electromotive.

No Mustangs in our collection. Mustang owners don't have the nerve to race their cars properly (Mustang owners tend to get nervous because it's usually their wife's car).
 

TehMac

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True, it was and still is a big car, but managed to combine good ride and decent handling with speed. The Buicks of the era, the GS series, were comparable to the Olds 442's as far as comfort and speed combined.

Yea, that sounds cool. Those Hemis are intense, but extremely heavy (~750 lbs).

One of my favorite cars is the Buick GS Stage 1. I just love how it is so understated and awesome. For some reason, the GSX doesn't appeal to me.
 
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