Muscle cars - anyone have one?

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Homer Simpson

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does an 87 Grand National count as a muscle car? picture this pic is from 4 years ago but not much has changed. since i bought a house in jan, its just been sitting in my garage collecting dust. my dad has one too. actually its a turbo T so its same drive train, just not black. until a few years ago he had 71 GTO. i rode around in that thing since i was a little kid.

i would love to get me a old muscle car era car but its just not feasible to get into one unless you have lots of money. thanks to barret jackson on speed channel, everyone thinks their car is worth a fortune. even really rough cars cant be had for cheap. you blow all your money on the car itself and have no funds left for any attempt at a resto.
 

Fatdog

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I'm 75% done on my 69 Buick GS400 project. Hopefully it'll be on the street by August. I've spent more money than I wanted but I wanted it done right. Still cheaper than doing a chevelle or mopar.
 

69Mach1

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Originally posted by: Homer Simpson
does an 87 Grand National count as a muscle car? picture this pic is from 4 years ago but not much has changed. since i bought a house in jan, its just been sitting in my garage collecting dust. my dad has one too. actually its a turbo T so its same drive train, just not black. until a few years ago he had 71 GTO. i rode around in that thing since i was a little kid.

i would love to get me a old muscle car era car but its just not feasible to get into one unless you have lots of money. thanks to barret jackson on speed channel, everyone thinks their car is worth a fortune. even really rough cars cant be had for cheap. you blow all your money on the car itself and have no funds left for any attempt at a resto.

If I remember correctly, these have an open ended program that runs the waste gates on the turbos. The higher the octane on the fuel, the more boost it runs. The program cranks up the boost until it senses detonation, then backs off a little. there are practical limits, but it's pretty much supercar just by filling up with the right fuel.
 

AMCRambler

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Well, I don't know if it counts, but since Kadarin mentioned his, I've got an '05 GTO. It's not classic muscle but 400 ponies can't be wrong.

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Pic 2

My pops had a 1978 Corvette. The 70's vettes were pretty weak as far as Corvette's go, but it still had a nice rumble to it. I only got to drive it two or three times before he sold it to our neighbor. If I had the dough I would have bought it from him, but I was in college and living at home and he wanted it out of the garage. Practically gave it away for $3,500. I'll see if I can dig up a pic of me in it. I think I've got one scanned in.

Edit: Found the pic of the vette with me in it, hehe. Only had the original though so I snapped a pic with the digital cam. I don't have a scanner :-(.

Vette Pic
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Fatdog
I'm 75% done on my 69 Buick GS400 project. Hopefully it'll be on the street by August. I've spent more money than I wanted but I wanted it done right. Still cheaper than doing a chevelle or mopar.
I miss my old 1968 Buick Skylark coupe.

The Fall 2008 issue of Engine Masters magazine had a 400 Buick build up. They ended up with 477 HP and 530 lb-ft of torque. A 1" spacer added to the intake resulted in 487 HP and 528 lb-ft of torque. This is with 10.3:1 compression and aluminum heads.
 

440sixpack

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Originally posted by: pontifex
one thing that does suck about those cars though is gas mileage. the guy with the 69 Camaro says he's lucky to get 12 MPG. OUCH!

What, that's about the best I get with my Ram (around town).

Anyhow, I've had the Challenger in my sig for more years than I care to think about, it has been patiently waiting for me to have the time and garage to do the restoration.
 

Knavish

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Originally posted by: 69Mach1
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: 69Mach1
69 Mach 1 for me, had it since 1981. Haven't restored it yet, and its needing some serious work. Its getting to the point that I don't dare drive it cause if it ever got wrecked I'd never be able to replace it. I've always been kind of nuts about this car, if someone ran into me, I'd probably make a serious attempt to murder them.

That's no way to live. I drove my Shelby over 50K miles before I parked it in wait of a proper restoration. If you can't drive it then it defeats the purpose. These cars were made to be driven. Just be careful.

Paranoia is not so easy to shut off. I agree with you, but I admit to not being rational about this car. The other part is that, if I get it out and drive it, I have an endless supply of nuts trying to buy it. ( They never want to pay more than $500.00) Someone in the past modified it and installed a set of thunderbird taillights. Lots of people think its a shelby. (not even close if you know anything) I have had to physically remove people from my yard, because they tried to buy it and wouldn't take no for an answer. I had one guy argue with me for 30 minutes about whether it was a shelby or not. I had the shaker stolen once, and they wrecked the grill and some of the sheet metal on the front end trying to get past the hood locks. I love the car, but it has some serious downsides. It gets about 19 mpg on the highway, but drops way down in town. Partly because it is very fun from stoplight to stoplight.

I guess there's a lot of sentimental value here, but fully restored it's worth something like $60k?? Ain't worth killing for lol


 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Wasn't one of the more sought after cars but I had a 67 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 390
http://users.marshall.edu/~kessler8/galaxie/
Sold it about 7 years ago. Wouldn't mind picking up another classic to play with maybe a 67/68 Mercury cougar or dodge dart. Still cool but not ridiculously priced like a lot of the more sought after cars.

There is an old woman who lives down the street from me who drives a '68 500 to the vegetable stand and back home, I see her in it all the time and yes, it has a 390 in it. Ugly canary yellow but it's in real good shape for it's age..I had a '68 XR7, a fun car if you do a few mods to the stock 302..
 

69Mach1

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Originally posted by: Knavish
Originally posted by: 69Mach1
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: 69Mach1
69 Mach 1 for me, had it since 1981. Haven't restored it yet, and its needing some serious work. Its getting to the point that I don't dare drive it cause if it ever got wrecked I'd never be able to replace it. I've always been kind of nuts about this car, if someone ran into me, I'd probably make a serious attempt to murder them.

That's no way to live. I drove my Shelby over 50K miles before I parked it in wait of a proper restoration. If you can't drive it then it defeats the purpose. These cars were made to be driven. Just be careful.

Paranoia is not so easy to shut off. I agree with you, but I admit to not being rational about this car. The other part is that, if I get it out and drive it, I have an endless supply of nuts trying to buy it. ( They never want to pay more than $500.00) Someone in the past modified it and installed a set of thunderbird taillights. Lots of people think its a shelby. (not even close if you know anything) I have had to physically remove people from my yard, because they tried to buy it and wouldn't take no for an answer. I had one guy argue with me for 30 minutes about whether it was a shelby or not. I had the shaker stolen once, and they wrecked the grill and some of the sheet metal on the front end trying to get past the hood locks. I love the car, but it has some serious downsides. It gets about 19 mpg on the highway, but drops way down in town. Partly because it is very fun from stoplight to stoplight.

I guess there's a lot of sentimental value here, but fully restored it's worth something like $60k?? Ain't worth killing for lol

It's an R code car, so fully restored its worth closer to $100,000. The 428 was long gone by the time I got it, so it will probably never get restored to that level by me.
I got the car just before I graduated from high school, so I've had it a long time. It has always been my idea of the perfect mustang. With the way prices have gone up on all these old cars, I'd never be able to replace it. It used to be a race car, and I've had almost the entire car apart one time or another. Gallons of blood and sweat. The things you work the hardest for are the ones you treasure most. Murder was just a figure of speech. ( but depending on circumstances you never know about physical assault.)
 

franksta

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My father-in-law has a '72 Chevelle that he built. It has a fuel injected 350 and Saginaw 4-speed. The seats are from some kind of VW, Jetta I think. He painted it himself in his workshop, blue with white stripes. I'll try to upload some pics later.
 

BW86

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I have a `67 Mustang now - 289. Needs a lot of work. I'll post up a few pics sometime this week
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: jaha2000
I have a 72 350 stick nova (The fun one)
and a 76 T/A in the garage. (the good looking one)
The nova needs some body love, but the right foot more than makes up for it. The T/A has about 50,000 miles on it. All the stickers have been removed and its black with red guts. Too bad its an emissions car and is a gutless wonder. 2.91 rear end gears make it a good highway roller though. The motor hardly works!

Those are 2.41 gears, not 2.91. You probably turn about 1800 rpm at 60mph. Got a pic of the car?

I have a basket case 76 T/A that's sitting in a field now. I could get it back if I wanted it, but it needs a donor body. It is a Hurst Special Edition, though, so one of these days I may go retrieve it. It's not going anywhere.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: gar3555
1973 Dodge Duster

Yes much time has been spent fixing it up.

Pic1

Pic2

Sweet.

BTW, it's a PLYMOUTH Duster, not Dodge. Dodge's version was the Dart. Yeah, I know they're basically the same car, but still.......
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: 69Mach1
69 Mach 1 for me, had it since 1981. Haven't restored it yet, and its needing some serious work. Its getting to the point that I don't dare drive it cause if it ever got wrecked I'd never be able to replace it. I've always been kind of nuts about this car, if someone ran into me, I'd probably make a serious attempt to murder them.

i met a guy that felt that way about his 50s bel air. he finally finished the restore, ended up in dire straits and had to sell it. on the way to drop it off and collect the money, he was rear ended by a dumb bitch in a buick century changing lanes and not paying attention. i remember the look of murder in his eyes.


i dont have a muscle car, but id love to get one someday as a project. i have kids, in maybe 10 years or so ill be able to handle a project like that. but ill likely get my bike on the road before taking on another car project. back before kids i helped my best friend get his 65 chevy II nova on the road with a 400sb in it. what a fun car that was! we rebuilt it with the 350 crank and all, his dad helped him with the engine mods mostly. he was a hot rod guy, loves to build up old anglias with chevy power in them. now hes building planes.
 

fastcuda

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I have had this car for 30 years, I drive it all the time, my only car, has went thru 3 engines, 3 rear ends, several clutches, rebuilt and re did just about everything in the car several times now, it is not a garage queen but still gets "nice car" compliments just about every place I park. Currently a 448 wedge, 4 speed, 373 dana powr lok 8-3/4. I just put in an updated A/C compressor and Condensor and modern mini starter. It needs paint but so what some kid would key it first day or it would get wrecked if I did that.

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam006.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam003.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam008.jpg
 

69Mach1

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Originally posted by: fastcuda
I have had this car for 30 years, I drive it all the time, my only car, has went thru 3 engines, 3 rear ends, several clutches, rebuilt and re did just about everything in the car several times now, it is not a garage queen but still gets "nice car" compliments just about every place I park. Currently a 448 wedge, 4 speed, 373 dana powr lok 8-3/4. I just put in an updated A/C compressor and Condensor and modern mini starter. It needs paint but so what some kid would key it first day or it would get wrecked if I did that.

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam006.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam003.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/al...fastcuda/newcam008.jpg

I had a friend who had a cuda that looked almost like that one. He missed a corner going on a bridge and put it in the river at about 60 mph. No one was hurt but the car was totaled. We still occasionally give him crap about trying to stock the river with a non native species of fish.
 

fastcuda

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I would say 9 out of 10 people that walk up to me tell me about the one they had just like it or the one they wrecked, of course they all had hemi's also LMAO
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: Kadarin
As for me, I used to have an '83 Mustang and an '05 GTO.
When/why did you get rid of the Goat?

Got rid of it almost a year ago after I got my '08 M3.

I liked the GTO... I had shorty headers (CA smog legal) and a Corsa cat-back exhaust (x-pipe) on it, and it sounded fantastic. The car was fun as hell to drive.

Drawbacks: no trunk space, no ipod hookup

Here it is: http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Kadarin/IMG_0448.JPG
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: melchoir
Currently own a 2005 GTO, and 1998 Trans Am.

The GTO is stock, the TA is not.

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Well, I don't know if it counts, but since Kadarin mentioned his, I've got an '05 GTO. It's not classic muscle but 400 ponies can't be wrong.

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Pic 2

Nice to see more '05 GTOs.. :thumbsup:
 

gar3555

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: gar3555
1973 Dodge Duster

Yes much time has been spent fixing it up.

Pic1

Pic2

Sweet.

BTW, it's a PLYMOUTH Duster, not Dodge. Dodge's version was the Dart. Yeah, I know they're basically the same car, but still.......

ya...I've been working to much lately, haven't even got to take the car out in a while...My father has a Dart he just got...the next big project for us.


couple of pics from a car show last month.

side-by-side

duster
 
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