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1EZduzit

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I guess stranger things have happened, but I sure wouldn't laugh about it if it did happen. Ironic, yes, funny, no.
 

Moonbeam

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Geez, a few Muslims die in riots over a cartoon and the people on here go nuts. Nice to see how similar we all are.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Geez, a few Muslims die in riots over a cartoon and the people on here go nuts. Nice to see how similar we all are.

Similar as in "insecure"??
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: mOeeOm
You poked the beast, now you throw rocks at it.

Very interesting, your choice of words.

Revelation 19:20

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 

panipoori

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.

Who did?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.


Actually...if you read the quran (as I am in the process of) kill infidels would indeed go to kill that lawyer. though, christians can use that excuse to kill muslims by the bibles "kill people who try to lead you to another god"
 

panipoori

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.

Who did?

Dont know, but you cant bash an entire religon over the actions of a a select group of people.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.

Who did?

Dont know, but you cant bash an entire religon over the actions of a a select group of people.

At least he didn't die.

A DANISH lawyer was shot and several Muslim demonstrators died as protests against the publication of cartoons showing the Prophet Muhammad continued around the world yesterday.

The lawyer was wounded in an incident in a Moscow cafe by a man from the Muslim Caucasus region of southern Russia.
 

panipoori

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.

Who did?

Dont know, but you cant bash an entire religon over the actions of a a select group of people.

At least he didn't die.

A DANISH lawyer was shot and several Muslim demonstrators died as protests against the publication of cartoons showing the Prophet Muhammad continued around the world yesterday.

The lawyer was wounded in an incident in a Moscow cafe by a man from the Muslim Caucasus region of southern Russia.


How does this disprove what I said?
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.

Who did?

Dont know, but you cant bash an entire religon over the actions of a a select group of people.

At least he didn't die.

A DANISH lawyer was shot and several Muslim demonstrators died as protests against the publication of cartoons showing the Prophet Muhammad continued around the world yesterday.

The lawyer was wounded in an incident in a Moscow cafe by a man from the Muslim Caucasus region of southern Russia.


How does this disprove what I said?

Who has to disprove it? Not me, I know what I think about what happened. You can deny it all you want. It matters not to me.

You can't prove that Islam wasn't the cause of the shooting either. You pick your poison and I'll pick mine.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: panipoori
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: jzimo
Link: Danish Lawyer Shot

A Danish lawyer was shot in a Moscow cafe because of these cartoons. This is pathetic. The guy was in Moscow minding his own business, for all we know he completely condones the catoons, and because he is Danish a radical muslim shoots him. This just makes me angry and amazed at the same time.

I try to believe that Islam is good religion, but so many things make me believe otherwise...this is just another one of those things.

Islam didnt tell the person to go and shoot the lawyer.


Actually...if you read the quran (as I am in the process of) kill infidels would indeed go to kill that lawyer. though, christians can use that excuse to kill muslims by the bibles "kill people who try to lead you to another god"



Where did Jesus Christ from whom the word christian comes say "kill people who try to lead you to another god"
 

panipoori

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How does this disprove what I said?
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Who has to disprove it? Not me, I know what I think about what happened. You can deny it all you want. It matters not to me.

You can't prove that Islam wasn't the cause of the shooting either. You pick your poison and I'll pick mine.[/quote]

It dosent really matter if it was or wasn't, my point was to show that it is wrong to judge a religon based on the actions of its people.

Not trying to start a flamewar here, but merely trying to stop the negative view that the religon of Islam has gotten. Even the scriptures of the bible can be interpreted in a certain way. It would be wrong to judge Christianity based on the actions of the extreme-conservatives. The religon is still a pure and good one.

btw I'm not muslim.
 

Taejin

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Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
You poked the beast, now you throw rocks at it.

Beast? I still go with my dog thoery...

we poked the dog..it bit..now we decide whether to put it down or not

You poked the beast, now you throw rocks at it.

Guess you still dont grasp the concept that the only reason the people in the ME are alive is because of the wests compassion.

Bring it on

beast? lol please, nothing but a mangy dog. Get irritating enough and we'll put you down for good.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: panipoori

How does this disprove what I said?

Who has to disprove it? Not me, I know what I think about what happened. You can deny it all you want. It matters not to me.

You can't prove that Islam wasn't the cause of the shooting either. You pick your poison and I'll pick mine.[/quote]

It dosent really matter if it was or wasn't, my point was to show that it is wrong to judge a religon based on the actions of its people.

Not trying to start a flamewar here, but merely trying to stop the negative view that the religon of Islam has gotten. Even the scriptures of the bible can be interpreted in a certain way. It would be wrong to judge Christianity based on the actions of the extreme-conservatives. The religon is still a pure and good one.

btw I'm not muslim.
[/quote]

That's OK, I'm not really a Christian either. I don't much care for any of the organized religions, myself. Too much of this kind of crap going on in all of them.
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: RichardE

Actually...if you read the quran (as I am in the process of) kill infidels would indeed go to kill that lawyer. though, christians can use that excuse to kill muslims by the bibles "kill people who try to lead you to another god"

But do we? No, don't compare Christians to Muslims. I can respect anyone's beiefs, as long as they don't try to kill me for them. We Christians have long been made fun of, people take my God's name in vain all the time, everywhere. But do I bomb people, start riots, shoot people for it? I kind of agree with you, but too many people think that all religions are the same.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Taejin


beast? lol please, nothing but a mangy dog. Get irritating enough and we'll put you down for good.


Hence the reason Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons. The West has become drunk with its power by wielding the threat of a "nuke" in every situation. Since it is such an equalizer, you can bet Iran will get it one way or another, just like Pakistan did. Pakistan is already working on long range missiles to deliver their nuclear payload.
 

panipoori

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: panipoori

How does this disprove what I said?

Who has to disprove it? Not me, I know what I think about what happened. You can deny it all you want. It matters not to me.

You can't prove that Islam wasn't the cause of the shooting either. You pick your poison and I'll pick mine.

It dosent really matter if it was or wasn't, my point was to show that it is wrong to judge a religon based on the actions of its people.

Not trying to start a flamewar here, but merely trying to stop the negative view that the religon of Islam has gotten. Even the scriptures of the bible can be interpreted in a certain way. It would be wrong to judge Christianity based on the actions of the extreme-conservatives. The religon is still a pure and good one.

btw I'm not muslim.
[/quote]

That's OK, I'm not really a Christian either. I don't much care for any of the organized religions, myself. Too much of this kind of crap going on in all of them.[/quote]


Yea I agree with you
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: RichardE

Actually...if you read the quran (as I am in the process of) kill infidels would indeed go to kill that lawyer. though, christians can use that excuse to kill muslims by the bibles "kill people who try to lead you to another god"

But do we? No, don't compare Christians to Muslims. I can respect anyone's beiefs, as long as they don't try to kill me for them. We Christians have long been made fun of, people take my God's name in vain all the time, everywhere. But do I bomb people, start riots, shoot people for it? I kind of agree with you, but too many people think that all religions are the same.

Do most muslims bomb people shoot people ect? Of course not, but it seems fair to make sweeping generalizations like that.

Christian, Judasim(Zionism), muslim all worship the same god, it is the prophets they disagree with. So in essence they are the same, in both the bible and the quran the death penalty is a valid form of punishment. So as you said, do most chritians do that? No, do most muslims? No they do not either.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: RichardE

Christian, Judasim(Zionism), muslim all worship the same god, it is the prophets they disagree with. So in essence they are the same, in both the bible and the quran the death penalty is a valid form of punishment. So as you said, do most chritians do that? No, do most muslims? No they do not either.


Not really, Jews and Muslims worship the same God but Christians have their trinity they worship which makes their religion polytheistic. Only Judaism and Islam are monotheistic religions with the same God AFAIK. I don't even think the concept of the trinity existed in Christianity until the Europeans got their hands on it and changed the religion to fit their lifestyles.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: RichardE

Christian, Judasim(Zionism), muslim all worship the same god, it is the prophets they disagree with. So in essence they are the same, in both the bible and the quran the death penalty is a valid form of punishment. So as you said, do most chritians do that? No, do most muslims? No they do not either.


Not really, Jews and Muslims worship the same God but Christians have their trinity they worship which makes their religion polytheistic. Only Judaism and Islam are monotheistic religions with the same God AFAIK.

Depends on what Christian you talk to really, holy trninity of son of god. If holy trinity, than slightly different, still they worship the same god as muslim and Jusdaism, if son of god, than they are the same as the other two, with different views on the prophets and there roles.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: RichardE

Christian, Judasim(Zionism), muslim all worship the same god, it is the prophets they disagree with. So in essence they are the same, in both the bible and the quran the death penalty is a valid form of punishment. So as you said, do most chritians do that? No, do most muslims? No they do not either.


Not really, Jews and Muslims worship the same God but Christians have their trinity they worship which makes their religion polytheistic. Only Judaism and Islam are monotheistic religions with the same God AFAIK.

Depends on what Christian you talk to really, holy trninity of son of god. If holy trinity, than slightly different, still they worship the same god as muslim and Jusdaism, if son of god, than they are the same as the other two, with different views on the prophets and there roles.

The fact that the Christians refer to Jesus as their "lord" is enough to differentiate their God from the Islamic/Jewish God.

 

magomago

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Originally posted by: JS80

google: muhammed false prophet

No need. I spent a period of my life doubting my religion and "searching" and ended up settling back on this. I don't beleive he is a false prophet at all, and in return I would ask you to google the Arian Controversy. To me, what absolutely killed me on Christianity was this whole "Three Gods in one, but really just one god~ oh and a son of God" argument in order to appease both "factions" of Christianity~ Arius's view was much more popular in places like the ME which is partially why Islam spread like wildfire in the region because the basis of thought had already been set.
Sorry but I can't buy that, I can't buy God in all his power had to "rest" after the creation of the universe, I can't buy that humans are sinful creatures by nature, I can't buy it was eve's fault for eating from the tree, I can't buy that this "all powerful God" was begotten into human form, etc. etc.
I personally have to accept that God is a single omnipotent being with no limitations...and I myself have come to accept that we are instrically not tainted with sin~ many Christians say "How can Muslims worship a God that demands prayer five times a day" and I would say in return "How can Christians worship a God who can't even forgive them for their a simple mistake"

I won't say more in the thread because this is way too offtopic but ultimately we have our own opinions
 

shira

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Ahh, the beauty of organized religion.

And don't tell me that the Koran doesn't say this or that about violence, so it's just the people, not the religion. A religion is what it's followers believe it to be. And if a religion is so subject to misinterpretation that its followers can justify killing innocents and burning down property, then that's the religion's fault.

Frankly, if a nice set of cartoons depicting Jesus in various unflattering ways appeared in major American newspapers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if large numbers of Christian true-belivers engaged in violent protests. That ought to tell you something.
 
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