Must they shove religion down your throat?

[godspeedx]

Originally posted by: melchoir
"well it's simple really, god created the world in 7 days(or however long it is) and that is that."

Day: The 24-hour period during which the earth completes one rotation on its axis.

Anyone ever notice that days are completely relative? "on day one God created the heavens, the earth, and light" If the earth did not exist a day could not have passed, assuming it did pass God would have had to be on the earth to notice. A day (Being: The period during which a celestial body completes a rotation.) would almost certainly be a different amount of time to someone on another planet then ours.

God: A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.

Assuming God does exist, he/she is by definition perfect. Able to do anything. Could God create a rock so heavy that he could not lift it? If God was able to create it and not lift it, he wouldn't be perfect or all mighty as we see it, and if he couldn't create the rock?

Look above me for the response to your second question/example. But concerning your first point of the "day". Your argument is quite weak. I'm not trying to criticize you, just think about it. God created the earth, do you not think that he would know how long a day is? He wouldn't have to be on earth to "notice" the time it took for the earth to complete a rotation on its axis, he created everything, and it was all planned.

 

[melchoir]

Assuming God created the earth (and universe). What relevance would the time it takes
for the earth to complete a rotation (a day) have to a being that existed before time itself?
You believe that God decided that after he created the universe and the billions of stars and planets that exist inside
of it, that he would now change his schedule to mirror that of a human?

To an entity with a perspective external to ours a day would be of no meaning, yes it may know
that earth completed a rotation, but it would be of no significance. Do we base our days on Pluto's
revolution? Since we dont why should/would a God base their's on earth's?

 

[specktre]

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Exactly my thoughts. And one more thing, how simple minded can these religious freaks be, when they belive than in the infinate vastness of the universe that the only planet/place that has life/inteligent life is earth. that is the most idiotic concept of there whole belief system.

I am certainly not saying I believe in aliens as I haven't encountered one but cmon ppl, in the whole univers it is highly probable that there is intelligent life out there. much more likely than the fact that god created the earth in 7 days theory, as well as the fact that he simply created one of each animal and human.

the big-bang theaory and the theory of evolution are a tad bit-less far fetched than god simply creating everything in a period of time which would be irrelivant to anyother place in the universe.

 

[ILikeStuff]

Originally posted by: specktre
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Exactly my thoughts. And one more thing, how simple minded can these religious freaks be, when they belive than in the infinate vastness of the universe that the only planet/place that has life/inteligent life is earth. that is the most idiotic concept of there whole belief system.

I am certainly not saying I believe in aliens as I haven't encountered one but cmon ppl, in the whole univers it is highly probable that there is intelligent life out there. much more likely than the fact that god created the earth in 7 days theory, as well as the fact that he simply created one of each animal and human.

the big-bang theaory and the theory of evolution are a tad bit-less far fetched than god simply creating everything in a period of time which would be irrelivant to anyother place in the universe.

Just how is Big Bang/Evolution(everything being created out of nothing for no particular reason and abiogenesis) "less far fetched" than an Omnipotent, eternal being creating everything simply by his own power and for his own pleasure and purpose? Why do you find one less believable than the other?

 

[thawolfman]

Thank god I'm an atheist!




Oh...wait...

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: crisp82
Don't you hate it when people shove religion down your throat? I'm all for being open minded and respect of other peoples opinions and beliefs, and I will sit down and listen to anyone that is willing to talk about whatever, but I hate it when people shove their religion down your throat like converting you will gain them some extra 'brownie points' in heaven or whatever they belive in. Why do they do this, why do they feel that I would be better off beliveing in there religion and that I will instantly be happier for it?

I respect their views on God, why cannot they respect mine?

I really didn't read this thread (as I am still stuck in the "war"). However, it seems to me it is YOUR FAULT if you ALLOW someone to shove ANYTHING down your throat.

How hard is it to firmly state: "I DON'T WISH TO DISCUSS RELIGION WITH YOU" and then WALK-AWAY if they persist. I don'[t care if it is a family member - if they are going to be RUDE, SO WILL I.

I hereby nominate this as the best advice of the day

 

[specktre]

i'll give you an amen to that. and a hal-le-lou-yah

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: specktre
there are alot of peoplewith whom I have tryed to have intelligent conversations with, regarding were humanity came from, and it seems to ma that everytime I get the same response back from christians stating that "well it's simple really, god created the world in 7 days(or however long it is) and that is that." so I ask "were did god come from, the answer "god didn't come from anything, god created everything." now to me that sounds really really stupid and pathetic, and a "bit" far-fetched.

I mean I am open minded about religion, and I do belive in a higher being, but these "over the top" christians need to have some faith in them selves, and not always say, "well I have to thank the lord and savior jesus christ, because if it weren't for him I would be a moron."

I mean come on ppl are you that self centered, that "god" is taking time out of his life to help you win the superbowl come on people grow a brain.

So where do you think the universe came from?

L. Ron Hubbard made the Universe!