Mustang GT350 Reviewed on Motor Trend's Youtube

[BUTCH1]

Can't forget the fact that they put pizza cutters for tires on it too.

Yea, I'd have thought they would have gone with a much wider rear tire. The one's they come with are not crappy at all but the rear-end just breaks loose so easily. I wonder if a lot of owners are opting for a different setup.

 

[foghorn67]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

 

[Fenixgoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

a truly fantastic car. and that drag race... :awe::awe::awe::awe:

 

[KentState]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

I'm actually more surprised at the Z28 doing so well. Has a circa 2006 engine, transmission and platform. GM threw a ton of expensive components into it which did do wonders.

The question is, will GM try to compete with the GT350R or actually focus on the higher selling trim levels. I would wager that more people would want something like the 1LE package on a lightly optioned SS. Why waste millions in R&D on a limited run model?

 

[Howard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

I actually laughed at the Detroit joke right at the start.

 

[Aharami]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

:thumbsup:

 

[AdamK47]

Another Mustang derivative. How many versions of it do they have for sale now?

 

[TridenT]

Another Mustang derivative. How many versions of it do they have for sale now?

At least 10 models. http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/models/

 

[Howard]

The fake exhaust tips kill the car for me. WHY?????????????

Fake tips?

 

[darkswordsman17]

I'm actually more surprised at the Z28 doing so well. Has a circa 2006 engine, transmission and platform. GM threw a ton of expensive components into it which did do wonders.

The question is, will GM try to compete with the GT350R or actually focus on the higher selling trim levels. I would wager that more people would want something like the 1LE package on a lightly optioned SS. Why waste millions in R&D on a limited run model?

You really shouldn't be. It and the Viper ACR show that when it comes to the track, big engine, big sticky tires, big aero, big brakes, and decent suspension is just a recipe for success.

I wouldn't say more people would want, but more people could afford. But its a bragging situation. I doubt they spent millions on just the Z/28. A lot of what went into it had already been developed with the Z06/ZR1 Vettes and the rest shouldn't have taken that much money.

Will be interesting to see what Chevy does, as the Z/28 was a last hurrah for the previous car so curious if it'll be similar or if they'll introduce one earlier, and/or tweak it so that it is more affordable and has more mainstream appeal.

I'm shocked that Ford put in the effort and cost to do the flat plane V-8 for the GT350. But it's very appealing. It has extra cachet for enthusiasts, and it is definitely wowing people and the press so it seems like it can be worth it. I expect we'll see Chevy step up their game. I just hope they don't make a fuss over something stupid like the pass through bowtie like they did with the previous gen Z/28.

Another Mustang derivative. How many versions of it do they have for sale now?

Wait, are you complaining? This is common in the industry (actually in a lot of industries), so I'm not really sure why anyone would take issue with this.

There's really only 3 main models. The base Mustang which can have 3 different engines and two body styles (fastback or convertible), the GT350 which has a special version, and then the GT500 at some point.

Fake tips?

I think he's talking about how you can easily tell that the actual diameter of the exhaust is nowhere near the size of the tips. I kinda get his point, and here, it looks weird because they have the beveled lips that they normally use to give the look of a larger exhaust without it actually being that large and looks nice, but they also have the thing that bugs me where you can tell the actual exhaust because there's a visible gap between the tip and the actual exhaust. Normally they'd bevel it all the way. But on cars now the exhaust tips are integrated into the fascia so they come off all as one piece so they don't have a perfect fit. Couple that with all the fake plastic mesh grille work that's getting added (not just to the front either) and it kinda bugs me. It looks ok, but when you can easily tell the actual grille opening size it just looks kinda bleh.

 

[JackBurton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

I didn't think anything comparable could touch the Z28 on the track. Oh Lordy.

Not only did the GT350R beat the Z28 in every aspect, it did so with all the modern amenities which are COMPLETELY absent in the Camaro. No air condioning, no radio, no backup cam, thinner windows, super stiff ride, and the Camaro still loses. This is a no brainier, unless you just LOVE Camaros, the GT350R is just a way superior car.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Not only did the GT350R beat the Z28 in every aspect, it did so with all the modern amenities which are COMPLETELY absent in the Camaro. No air condioning, no radio, no backup cam, thinner windows, super stiff ride, and the Camaro still loses. This is a no brainier, unless you just LOVE Camaros, the GT350R is just a way superior car.

:thumbsup: And it looks better.

 

[Beer4Me]

Not only did the GT350R beat the Z28 in every aspect, it did so with all the modern amenities which are COMPLETELY absent in the Camaro. No air condioning, no radio, no backup cam, thinner windows, super stiff ride, and the Camaro still loses. This is a no brainier, unless you just LOVE Camaros, the GT350R is just a way superior car.

FYI, the GT350"R" does NOT come with AC, Radio, and backup camera standard. By default, all of that is removed for the sake of shaving weight as this is the "Race spec" version.

The standard GT350 comes with all those goodies, but that's not what is tested here. The R version is NOT meant for nor was ever intended to be a DD.

For reference this is directly from Ford's website when you build a 350R:
"Unique Chassis Tuning Deletes the following standard features: Rear Seat, Rear View Camera, Air Conditioning, Auxiliary Gauges, Floor Mats, Tire Inflator and Sealant Kit, Audio System, SYNC® and USB Ports"

HOWEVER... for $3,000 more, you can add the Electronics Pack on the R version which gives you most of this back (- the back seat) and negates the weight savings. AC/Radio/HIDs/etc were all also options on the Z/28 and NOT standard equipment either, FYI.

In other words, NO creature comforts in a Race car are ever standard. Duh.

 

[JackBurton]

FYI, the GT350"R" does NOT come with AC, Radio, and backup camera standard. By default, all of that is removed for the sake of shaving weight as this is the "Race spec" version.

The standard GT350 comes with all those goodies, but that's not what is tested here. The R version is NOT meant for nor was ever intended to be a DD.

For reference this is directly from Ford's website when you build a 350R:
"Unique Chassis Tuning Deletes the following standard features: Rear Seat, Rear View Camera, Air Conditioning, Auxiliary Gauges, Floor Mats, Tire Inflator and Sealant Kit, Audio System, SYNC® and USB Ports"

HOWEVER... for $3,000 more, you can add the Electronics Pack on the R version which gives you most of this back (- the back seat) and negates the weight savings. AC/Radio/HIDs/etc were all also options on the Z/28 and NOT standard equipment either, FYI.

In other words, NO creature comforts in a Race car are ever standard. Duh.

Yes it was. It was the GT350R with the electronics package. You can see the air conditioning controls and radio. He even calls out the rear camera. Duh. And even with the electronic package, the GT350R is faster AND cheaper than the stripped Z28. Did I also mention the Camaro's interior sucks?

 

[shabby]

Did I also mention the Camaro's interior sucks?

Thankfully that interior is not made anymore, not sure what gm was thinking with a retro interior.

 

[JackBurton]

:thumbsup: And it looks better.

Waaaaay better.

 

[KentState]

Not only did the GT350R beat the Z28 in every aspect, it did so with all the modern amenities which are COMPLETELY absent in the Camaro. No air condioning, no radio, no backup cam, thinner windows, super stiff ride, and the Camaro still loses. This is a no brainier, unless you just LOVE Camaros, the GT350R is just a way superior car.

Isn't it amazing when a brand new model beats an outgoing model? Stop the presses.

 

[foghorn67]

Isn't it amazing when a brand new model beats an outgoing model? Stop the presses.

Edit- Opening sentence removed. Personal insult wasn't the intention.

Old or new, 500hp is still 500hp. It's actually an expensive motor, only in cars like the Corvette Z06. It contributes to the commanding price of a Z/28.

Fancy shocks, expensive tires and brakes, aero, etc.

The GT350R has a similar approach to fast lap times. Expensive motor, same damper tech. But it's more refined for the same price or less.

Both are amazing machines, but the Camaro is a horrible place to sit in. No visibility, crap interior. I bought the whole crap interior is okay thing ten years ago. But when cars like the Focus, Cruze were more refined....end of excuses for premium cars.

 

[JackBurton]

Isn't it amazing when a brand new model beats an outgoing model? Stop the presses.

Well, Chevy doesn't have a Camaro to compete with the GT350R, yet. That being said, I just can't see buying a GT350R over a 2016 Corvette. I don't care what the performance numbers are. I wouldn't mind having both though.

 

[Viper GTS]

Well, Chevy doesn't have a Camaro to compete with the GT350R, yet. That being said, I just can't see buying a GT350R over a 2016 Corvette. I don't care what the performance numbers are. I wouldn't mind having both though.

Assuming you paid MSRP for the GT350 I'd much rather have that over a comparably priced Corvette. If we're talking GT350 vs Z06 (perhaps after dealer markup) then my answer would change but that flat plane crank is just beautiful. It's going to be entertaining well after the Corvette is eclipsed by something newer and faster.

Viper GTS

 

[KentState]

Do you have an emotional stake in the Z/28 or something? Geesh.

Never been a fan of the Camaro or Mustang so not sure what warrants your personal attack. Seems you are the one that went emotional.

 

[AdamK47]

Well, Chevy doesn't have a Camaro to compete with the GT350R, yet. That being said, I just can't see buying a GT350R over a 2016 Corvette. I don't care what the performance numbers are. I wouldn't mind having both though.

What do you have now that you would be upgrading from?

 

[JackBurton]

What do you have now that you would be upgrading from?

My wife has a 2011 Mustang GT, and I'm looking to buy a car for myself. I just have an old pickup truck (commuter), and was looking to get my fun car. Was looking at a new C7 Vette. I'd LOVE to get the Z06, but I don't think I could swing that.

 

[AdamK47]

There are a lot of excellent fun options available today. That's for sure.

 

[Kaido]

I'm actually more surprised at the Z28 doing so well. Has a circa 2006 engine, transmission and platform. GM threw a ton of expensive components into it which did do wonders.

The question is, will GM try to compete with the GT350R or actually focus on the higher selling trim levels. I would wager that more people would want something like the 1LE package on a lightly optioned SS. Why waste millions in R&D on a limited run model?

Not to mention the somewhat dated interior design on the Camaro.

The two things that prevented me from getting one were the crap visibility & ridiculous wideness. Found the Mustang to be a lot more enjoyable (2015 & newer, the latest redesign, that is...IRS & all).