MW3: not excited

[Stuxnet]

This thread was conceived as flamebait and devolved as quickly as expected. If you want to step away from the kids table and actually talk about the game like an adult, I'm more than happy to do so in the main thread.

That's your own asinine assumption. Quit passing your half-baked CoD-fanboy-tainted opinions off as fact. You're a troll and a child and a self-appointed CoD thread mod. That's all there is to it, and I will take your advice and stop feeding you, the troll.

 

[BD2003]

That's your own asinine assumption. Quit passing your half-baked CoD-fanboy-tainted opinions off as fact. You're a troll and a child and a self-appointed CoD thread mod. That's all there is to it, and I will take your advice and stop feeding you, the troll.

Oh give me a fucking break. I didn't enter this thread until long after the derailment. All you ever post is "WAAAH, why can't people have opinions!?!?" every time someone posts something you don't like or anything even resembling a back and forth discussion. It has 0% substance. 100% pure bitching about nothing with a side order of snotty. If thats not a derailment I dont know wtf is. It goes both ways. You're no more tolerant of anyone else's opinions, except you don't seem to have your own. Your presence is completely useless and irrelevant. And you act like you're not the troll. What a load of bullshit.

 

[chalmers]

Oh give me a fucking break. I didn't enter this thread until long after the derailment. All you ever post is "WAAAH, why can't people have opinions!?!?" every time someone posts something you don't like or anything even resembling a back and forth discussion. It has 0% substance. 100% pure bitching about nothing with a side order of snotty. If thats not a derailment I dont know wtf is. It goes both ways. You're no more tolerant of anyone else's opinions, except you don't seem to have your own. Your presence is completely useless and irrelevant. And you act like you're not the troll. What a load of bullshit.

You are guilty of all the same things you're accusing him of. You also take video games incredibly serious if this gets you THAT worked up. Does every topic in life get you this angry? What about laundry detergent choices? I like Tide myself, are you mad about that?

 

[Saint Nick]

This thread is real good, LOL.

 

[BD2003]

You are guilty of all the same things you're accusing him of. You also take video games incredibly serious if this gets you THAT worked up. Does every topic in life get you this angry? What about laundry detergent choices? I like Tide myself, are you mad about that?

This is nothing but a diversion. Relieves boredom at work. Nothing more. I'm not worked up at all. I frankly don't give a shit what games people do and don't play. I just like discussing my hobby, it's fun. I'm an equal opportunity video game fanboy, and CoD is just one of many. When people come around left and right like they're too cool for it, it's a downer for everyone.

But man, I fucking hate Tide. How could you trust your laundry to that corporate garbage?? It's the same thing every year!! All are the true innovators. They're moving detergent technology forward. I can't wait till the next gen of soap...it's going to blow your minds...

 

[PimpJuice]

The only argument people seem to have is "ITS THE SAME"......well, no shit. It sells millions of copies, why would they drastically change it.

You know what actually is different? Other games! Go play them and stop crying your way through life. You sound like a bunch of kids.

 

[Beev]

The only argument people seem to have is "ITS THE SAME"......well, no shit. It sells millions of copies, why would they drastically change it.

You know what actually is different? Other games! Go play them and stop crying your way through life. You sound like a bunch of kids.

I already posted, twice, that I'm not even remotely interested in MW3 because Black Ops was utter fucking shit, and Infinity Ward is made of new people who are undoubtedly inferior to the old people. MW3 will not be a good game. Period. But it will still be the # 1 seller this year, so Go Activision...

 

[BD2003]

I already posted, twice, that I'm not even remotely interested in MW3 because Black Ops was utter fucking shit, and Infinity Ward is made of new people who are undoubtedly inferior to the old people. MW3 will not be a good game. Period. But it will still be the # 1 seller this year, so Go Activision...

But will it be utter fucking shit?

 

[CVSiN]

Skyrim And Saints row 3. Those are my November must haves.

+2

you can keep MW.. same crap different disk..

 

[CVSiN]

The only argument people seem to have is "ITS THE SAME"......well, no shit. It sells millions of copies, why would they drastically change it.

You know what actually is different? Other games! Go play them and stop crying your way through life. You sound like a bunch of kids.

because it is OLD and STALE..

BF3 gonna a kick the living crap outa MW and IW..
new engine new gameplay.. and INNOVATIONS..

I plan on doing just that will not even give a penny for MW..

 

[BD2003]

because it is OLD and STALE..

BF3 gonna a kick the living crap outa MW and IW..
new engine new gameplay.. and INNOVATIONS..

I plan on doing just that will not even give a penny for MW..

Please describe said innovations. I'm not seeing anything new in it. It will probably be great as well, but it's still the same design.

 

[dougp]

Please describe said innovations. I'm not seeing anything new in it. It will probably be great as well, but it's still the same design.

But it has guns! And vehicles! And classes! Oh and you can level up and unlock new attachments and weapons!

 

[chalmers]

Please describe said innovations. I'm not seeing anything new in it. It will probably be great as well, but it's still the same design.

I don't obsess over the little details of upcoming video games. All I know is MW comes out every year, hardly enough time for anything new. It's an old and stale concept.

I can assure you if BF came out every single year I'd probably make fun of it too.

If this MW3 was the first COD game since MW1...so I guess it'd be called MW2...I'd probably be excited.

I have watched the trailers, previews, and gameplay on youtube of both games. BF3 looks epic....MW3 does not *shrug*.

That's as in depth as you're gonna get from me...I use the eye test and the fact that there hasn't been a BF game in awhile. Maybe they're just good at previewing games, shrug.

I can't see any objective person looking at both of these games and seeing MW3 as some amazing new video game since it comes out every 12 months...again shrug.

 

[dougp]

I don't obsess over the little details of upcoming video games. All I know is MW comes out every year, hardly enough time for anything new. It's an old and stale concept.

I can assure you if BF came out every single year I'd probably make fun of it too.

If this MW3 was the first COD game since MW1...so I guess it'd be called MW2...I'd probably be excited.

I have watched the trailers, previews, and gameplay on youtube of both games. BF3 looks epic....MW3 does not *shrug*.

That's as in depth as you're gonna get from me...I use the eye test and the fact that there hasn't been a BF game in awhile. Maybe they're just good at previewing games, shrug.

I can't see any objective person looking at both of these games and seeing MW3 as some amazing new video game since it comes out every 12 months...again shrug.

MP hasn't really changed for any of the BF games. So, here's the release schedule:

2002 Battlefield 1942
2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome
2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII
2004 Battlefield Vietnam
2005 Battlefield 2
2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces
2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces
2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury
2006 Battlefield 2142
2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike
2008 Battlefield: Bad Company
2009 Battlefield Heroes
2009 Battlefield 1943
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam
2010 Battlefield Online
2011 Battlefield Play4Free
2011 Battlefield 3

 

[BD2003]

I don't obsess over the little details of upcoming video games. All I know is MW comes out every year, hardly enough time for anything new. It's an old and stale concept.

I can assure you if BF came out every single year I'd probably make fun of it too.

If this MW3 was the first COD game since MW1...so I guess it'd be called MW2...I'd probably be excited.

I have watched the trailers, previews, and gameplay on youtube of both games. BF3 looks epic....MW3 does not *shrug*.

That's as in depth as you're gonna get from me...I use the eye test and the fact that there hasn't been a BF game in awhile. Maybe they're just good at previewing games, shrug.

I can't see any objective person looking at both of these games and seeing MW3 as some amazing new video game since it comes out every 12 months...again shrug.

There has been a new battlefield game and/or expansion every year since it's inception in 2002...which predates CoD.

Edit: Lol..damn, beat me to it, and damn I don't even remember half those expansions.

BF3 is undeniably looking fantastic in trailers and such. But if you've been playing the series from the start like I have, it's just as old and stale. Even more so in many ways...they never had that watershed moment like MW1.

The bigger difference might be that there's considerably less console BF content, so I guess it feels fresher to a certain audience. It's still the same stuff though almost a decade later. Which is fine, cause it's generally good stuff.

 

[RedRooster]

Go thread go! We've almost passed the official MW3 thread. Good for you guys!

 

[dougp]

Just to make it fair:
2003 Call of Duty
2004 Call of Duty United Offensive
2005 Call of Duty 2
2006 Call of Duty 3
2007 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
2008 Call of Duty: World at War
2009 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
2010 Call of Duty: Black Ops
2011 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

 

[BD2003]

Just to make it fair:
2003 Call of Duty
2004 Call of Duty United Offensive
2005 Call of Duty 2
2006 Call of Duty 3
2007 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
2008 Call of Duty: World at War
2009 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
2010 Call of Duty: Black Ops
2011 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

There were also two console offshoots in the mid 2000s....for both series.

 

[chalmers]

MP hasn't really changed for any of the BF games. So, here's the release schedule:

2002 Battlefield 1942
2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome
2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII
2004 Battlefield Vietnam
2005 Battlefield 2
2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces
2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces
2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury
2006 Battlefield 2142
2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike
2008 Battlefield: Bad Company
2009 Battlefield Heroes
2009 Battlefield 1943
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam
2010 Battlefield Online
2011 Battlefield Play4Free
2011 Battlefield 3

I'd like to see the sales numbers and/or multiplayer statistics for most of those BF games. I haven't even heard of most of those, whereas all I hear about is MW this, Black Ops that for years now. The only BF games I've even heard of are um...about half of those. They don't get nearly the press or the play. BF3 seems like a huge epic game that's upcoming, unlike alot of those BF games.

 

[dougp]

I'd like to see the sales numbers and/or multiplayer statistics for most of those BF games. I haven't even heard of most of those, whereas all I hear about is MW this, Black Ops that for years now. The only BF games I've even heard of are um...about half of those. They don't get nearly the press or the play. BF3 seems like a huge epic game that's upcoming, unlike alot of those BF games.

People also said that about BF2. Honestly, I'm just pointing out to you that there have been games released in the BF series just as often as the CoD series. I'm not going to go pull MP numbers for you, that's on you if you want to determine that crap.

 

[BD2003]

I'd like to see the sales numbers and/or multiplayer statistics for most of those BF games. I haven't even heard of most of those, whereas all I hear about is MW this, Black Ops that for years now. The only BF games I've even heard of are um...about half of those. They don't get nearly the press or the play. BF3 seems like a huge epic game that's upcoming, unlike alot of those BF games.

It's called marketing. They're getting the game out there this time. They stamped a new number on their engine and theyre calling it brand new. Its the same damn thing with minor changes that PC players have had for the better part of a decade. There were even jets and helis and all that jazz in an awesome bf1942 mod called desert combat that was pretty popular back in 2003. This is still the same ol shit...the only difference is that a whole lot more people actually know it exists this go round.

 

[Sureshot324]

I played a lot of MW2 and Black Ops and while it was fun, I got bored of them after a while and I can't get exited about a game I know is going to be exactly the same as the games I'm already bored of.

That and there's already way too many games I want to play this fall. Skyrim, Diablo 3, BF3.

 

[chalmers]

It's called marketing. They're getting the game out there this time. They stamped a new number on their engine and theyre calling it brand new. Its the same damn thing with minor changes that PC players have had for the better part of a decade. There were even jets and helis and all that jazz in an awesome bf1942 mod called desert combat that was pretty popular back in 2003. This is still the same ol shit...the only difference is that a whole lot more people actually know it exists this go round.

I know, I played Desert Combat for a long time. I still remember having much more fun on that game almost 10 years ago than I ever did on any Call of Duty game. I never played BF2, and I played BC2 on the console for a short while. So for me, this is hopefully a rekindling of a game I loved years ago, that's why I'm excited.

 

[BD2003]

I know, I played Desert Combat for a long time. I still remember having much more fun on that game almost 10 years ago than I ever did on any Call of Duty game. I never played BF2, and I played BC2 on the console for a short while. So for me, this is hopefully a rekindling of a game I loved years ago, that's why I'm excited.

If you played DC, you basically played BF2. I've played every mainline BF game. If you want to see innovation, go play 2142. They backtracked from it because it was too different. People just want modern war games.

I get that people are tired of CoD. It's been on top for so long now. If you're not a big fan of the series I completely get how it just feels like more of the same. It mostly is. But so is everything else nowadays, battlefield included. The last truly innovative FPS that actually had some popularity was MW1. Maybe BF3 will have some sort of critical mass of new players that the last dozen BF games didn't, and it'll feel fresh to a brand new audience. I hope it lives up to the hype. But it's still a rehash.

 

[Arkaign]

MP hasn't really changed for any of the BF games. So, here's the release schedule:

2002 Battlefield 1942
2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome
2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII
2004 Battlefield Vietnam
2005 Battlefield 2
2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces
2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces
2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury
2006 Battlefield 2142
2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike
2008 Battlefield: Bad Company
2009 Battlefield Heroes
2009 Battlefield 1943
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam
2010 Battlefield Online
2011 Battlefield Play4Free
2011 Battlefield 3

If you played DC, you basically played BF2. I've played every mainline BF game. If you want to see innovation, go play 2142. They backtracked from it because it was too different. People just want modern war games.

I get that people are tired of CoD. It's been on top for so long now. If you're not a big fan of the series I completely get how it just feels like more of the same. It mostly is. But so is everything else nowadays, battlefield included. The last truly innovative FPS that actually had some popularity was MW1. Maybe BF3 will have some sort of critical mass of new players that the last dozen BF games didn't, and it'll feel fresh to a brand new audience. I hope it lives up to the hype. But it's still a rehash.

I agree with this

I've bolded the above that weren't full cost though, that were released either free initially or eventually, and were just sold as expansions/DLC. I think that's what irks some of the folks, that the differences between major CoD releases have become much more like the BF expansion packs, but they still want to sell them annually for 50-60 bucks. And now they've found a way to charge what, $100ish for the 'elite'?

For the people that really like it, that's fine. I can understand. I had sooooo much fun back in the day playing lots of twitch shooters with smallish maps, Quake, Quake2, Quake3, UT, etc. I appreciated the various games that gave more options in terms of vehicles, map sizes, classes, etc. Tribes was a lot of fun, ditto the BF series. One thing that you notice quickly with those type games is how important it is to play alongside people that know what they're doing, and to organize teamwork more. That's a double-edged sword, as a good match might take half an hour or more, and having crappy teammates can ruin the fun pretty quickly. That's hugely different from being able to jump into a DM game like MW and just go on a killing spree immediately within the first few seconds. With the attention span and average player quality ou there, this makes a lot of sense.

Back to CoD, I think everyone but their stockholders would be a little happier if between each release they had a major DLC pack or expansion pack ($25ish) that brought everything but the SP campaign as new, and then every two years you got a full release with a new engine, new SP campaign that's twice as epic, etc. Unfortunately it seems like if anything, we're going the opposite direction, and will end up having to get a new MW game every 6 months that will have even less change to it. I'm sure they're desperately trying to figure out how to EOL past games now so that they can herd more people into each new one more quickly.