Mwave IBM 120G 8MB 180GXP $112 No Rebates + Shipping

[z0ner]

I will never buy an IBM / Hitachi drive again.

I used to own a small PC consulting company, and the 75GXP line were the top performers, and the rave of the community. I purchased and recommended the line for many of my customers. You can see where this is going - I had nearly a 100% failure ratio. After many of my customers had their SECOND drive go bad, I eventually ate the cost of a new, comperable WD. All of this while I was screaming to IBM warranty supervisors and while the class action lawsuit was just starting to form. IBM denied EVERYTHING, and immediately and without warning stopped their cross-shipment policy (try telling a client they won't be able to boot their computer for three weeks - uh, ain't gonna happen). I begged and pleaded for a 60GXP, anything but a 75GXP and no dice.

Their business practices were questionable at best. Those drives soured me on that division as a whole.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
IBM HDs are garbage, i had a DOA microdrive, made in thailand and i google searched it and lots of others had problems of those made their. u'd expect quality but like HP, they'll sell u the cheapest garbage they can make.

WTF are you babblig about? Microdrive? We're talking about an IDE hard-drive. Wrong forum, pal

 

[yellowperil]

My experience with IBMs/Hitachis has been less than ideal also. One dead Deskstar 60GXP, two dead Travelstars, and the Hitachi in a friend's laptop is about to go too. It is the only HD brand I've had problems with.

 

[MrDudeMan]

just thought id chime in my experience for others to see...


in the last year and a half, ive used 7 western digital 40gb's, 3 maxtor 40gbs, and 11 120gxp 40gbs...


1 WD died, no maxtors died, and no 120gxp's died. all of these drives have now been in use for at least a year and a month (some are looking at a year and a half pretty soon) and the WD that died had the failure less than 3 weeks into service. once i got the new one (1.5 weeks later), it has been working flawlessly ever since.


everyone that is bashing IBM needs to STFU. that problem is over with now.


if you have valid reasons to bash IBM, well more power to you. but, if you are one of those morons who calls it a deathstar every chance they get...get a life. there is more to worry about in life than holding a grudge on a hard drive company.



like i said, if you have good reason to hate them, NO ONE can argue with that! experience is always better than advice! the last part of this was aimed at the people who just repeat what they read.

 

[mikeg]

Look People. All HDs will fail given enough time and abuse. I have a mix of WD, Maxtor, Seagate & IBM. I have had to RMA one Seagate and the 2 WD that failed on me were no longer under warranty. I know that you should not expect to lose all data on a drive but you should also do regular backups. I learned that lesson a long time ago. If I am going to need something I should have at least 2 copys of the file. As for the IBM thats on sale I bought one and I think its a great deal. If you are worried about it not lasting then go and buy the extended warranty that FRYs offers. Its a no hassle HD swap if the one you do have goes bad also its for a 3 year period. So stop your guys IBM basshing please. Just wanted to get that off my mind
Mike

 

[AMDSoldier]

Originally posted by: mikeg
Look People. All HDs will fail given enough time and abuse. I have a mix of WD, Maxtor, Seagate & IBM. I have had to RMA one Seagate and the 2 WD that failed on me were no longer under warranty. I know that you should not expect to lose all data on a drive but you should also do regular backups. I learned that lesson a long time ago. If I am going to need something I should have at least 2 copys of the file. As for the IBM thats on sale I bought one and I think its a great deal. If you are worried about it not lasting then go and buy the extended warranty that FRYs offers. Its a no hassle HD swap if the one you do have goes bad also its for a 3 year period. So stop your guys IBM basshing please. Just wanted to get that off my mind
Mike

I think everyone knows this.

Thats not what were talking about.

It's the fact how IBM runs their business (or lack of it). I had to pay to ship their peice of sh!t 75GXP to them and only to receive two more times DOA drives. For that reason I don't by IBM.

 

[stspad]

nice deal. they should change the name of their drives lol, that way retards wont associate the old ones with newer models ;\

 

[ChrisOjeda]

HAD TO RMA 3 IBM HARD DRIVES ALL WITHIN SAME 5 MONTHS....

AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!

Also, if you got screwed by IBM, then join the class act law suit. I didn't bother using the last drive as it wasn't worth the pain of starting over again....

 

[QuicknDirty]

This is a pretty hot deal. Googlegear sells this same drive for $121.

If anyone is paranoid about it, why don't you just buy the drive and purchase Frys extended warranty? It would still end up being about the same as Googlegears price, and you get instant exchange @ Frys...for 3 years I believe.

QnD

 

[TooChill]

Anyone actually gone to Fry's and looked if it was a 8mb cache yet?
Screw it, if noone's gone by tonight I'll go after work and report back.

ripped from storagereview.com:
Though the 180 GB and 120 GB models are purportedly available in models featuring both 2 megabytes and 8 megabytes of buffer, in practice the 180-gig version is always equipped with an 8-meg cache while the 120-gig unit features 2 megabytes. Check the suffix of the drive's model number when ordering. A "-0" signifies a 2-meg buffer while a "-1" indicates 8 megabytes.

 

[ShotgunSi]

Not to be an ass, but did you read the entire thread?

Originally posted by: TooChill
Anyone actually gone to Fry's and looked if it was a 8mb cache yet?
Screw it, if noone's gone by tonight I'll go after work and report back.

These are 2MB cache drives. I bought one for the same price from Fry's a few weeks ago.

 

[bulaya]

Originally posted by: Dreadogg

Originally posted by: ShinSa

Originally posted by: zoiks
The problem was with last year drives. This year the drives are pretty good. I have been using an 80gb one for about 8 months now and its quiet and fast as the day I installed it.

How do you know if you've had it for less than a year?

Stay away from these death stars.

bull crap, you should not be so closed minded about IBM, they only really have had problems with the 75 GXP's and this was close to 3 years ago (not to possitive about time) and now they have had really good drives ever since, I spend lots and lots of time in the hardware forum atleast 5 times a day, and I have been seeing more WD drives popping up then IBM, now thats not saying its high failure drive its just saying more people have bought this drive so the percentages are up so there are gonna be more reported problems!

You are right, 75GXP=bad year. I have had IBM drives since, and have not had a single problem...... Awesome deal!

 

[dchilder]

Just stopped by to take a look. This is OEM.

2MB, 7200RPM, 1 year warranty.

I passed, because I want a 3 year warranty...

 

[TranceNation]

there's no good reason to take the risk in buying IBM hds when there are better and more reliable hds out there for the same price.
Problem exists in previous drives, there's no convicing evidence that they have fixed the new ones if they don't even know what was wrong with the previous ones.

 

[ch40z]

2 meg cache 5400
and if it breaks ibm now use hitachi to warrenty
only take a month

 

[Kwad Guy]

Anyone know if anything ever came of the threatened class action suits over the 75GXP drives? I own several of these, still in sealed boxes, that after the problems started coming to light I never dared to use...It would be nice if I could get some compenstation, though I hardly expect that will happen...

Kwad

 

[ReiAyanami]

the IBM microdrive is still a hard drive, the fact that they denied having a major problem with all the ones out of a certain region shows how they do business, make it using the cheapest parts and places possible and then deny everything. i guess me and the dozens with DOA hd's must really not be having a problem.

IBM is on my do no buy list cuz just lilke with fujitsu, they dont do squat until the class action lawsuit comes. the only other time i've had a bad HD was in the infamous WDC debacle a few years ago, they did replace the dead HD promptly but i will never buy WDC again. safe than sorry safe than sorry.

 

[ahsia]

Is this deal still on? When will it be over...?

 

[SOSTrooper]

It's over. But you can now get the Maxtor 120GB Retail box for $90 AR.

 

[mikeg]

Ok yes the deal is over for now but I think that they will put it back on sale later this week. Frys usually has adds out on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon & Wen. So lets wait and see. I picked one up and think Ill get another one next time its available

 

[PagannagaP]

I have an old 13Gig IBM HD lying around and it worked flawlessly. But after hearing about all the failures I'm definitely wary about buying one for at least a few generations. I think IBM *do* make *usually* great products but they really made a bad product in terms of reliability and then circled the wagons and pretty much denied any wrong doing. I think they could have saved themselves a lot of money, time and stress, not to mention the incalcuable effects of the beating their brand loyalty took.

The thing that worries me is that by selling off their HD business to Hitachi, I'm sure a lot of the same people still probably work there, the same people who made the decision to bury their head in the sand when the complaints started flooding in.

Most people don't backup their hard drives. I have most of the software on CD but do I really want to reinstall 100+ GBs of data?

I can almost put up with a some other piece of hardware failing, but not when it's the place that you keep all your data. Not everyone can afford to buy a new hard drive and no-one wants to wait a few weeks to get another HD of the same dubious quality. IBM/Hitachi, for me, will have a hard time restoring faith in their HD division.

 

[PagannagaP]

Double

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: S13SilviaK

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
The deal is good, the problem is IBM won't own up to it and won't admit that their hard drives were having problems. They would blame it on everything else. They should have done recalls on the 75gxp.

And another thing. When you send it to them they make you pay shipping. They make you ship it to them first, they take several weeks to get it to you. They expect you to ship it in this foam and all this even though the hard drive is broken and they ship it back in some crap material. They also send back refurbished parts. Those are all reasons why I wouldn't buy IBM.

You are so full of s*** I just had IBM send me a replacement for my 40GB drive, I called them up, they put a charge hold on my credit card, sent me a new drive in 2 days, I sent them my drive back in the box NO CHARGE. This is the same routine with all of the HD man. that I've dealt with, this includes: WD, IBM and Maxtor.

Then you were very lucky. I've been hanging out at storagereview.com, and many, many people reported complains that IBM was 100% unwilling to cross-ship or ship an advance replacement RMA, like every other HD company normally does. What happened to you was not the norm, although perhaps things will get better with Hitachi at the helm.

I haven't checked this thread in a while but he's right. Don't ever tell me I'm full of s***. You gotta get your facts straight before you talk about s*** that you just simply don't know. Alright you bitch? They were only doing that kind of RMA in the beginning when they first started receiving the RMA's than stopped doing that.

Yes companies do recall hard drives. Fujitsu, western digital have both made hard drive recalls.

So let me say once again. I have to pay shipping and handling to IBM (I say handling because I have to pay for the foam they want it in). Than they also make me wait at least 6 weeks to get the drive back in. They wouldn't even accept the same packaging they send me the drive in back, they would want foam only. Than once again, it breaks and I have to go through the same process again.

 

[S13SilviaK]

[/quote] I haven't checked this thread in a while but he's right. Don't ever tell me I'm full of s***. You gotta get your facts straight before you talk about s*** that you just simply don't know. Alright you bitch? They were only doing that kind of RMA in the beginning when they first started receiving the RMA's than stopped doing that.

Yes companies do recall hard drives. Fujitsu, western digital have both made hard drive recalls.

So let me say once again. I have to pay shipping and handling to IBM (I say handling because I have to pay for the foam they want it in). Than they also make me wait at least 6 weeks to get the drive back in. They wouldn't even accept the same packaging they send me the drive in back, they would want foam only. Than once again, it breaks and I have to go through the same process again. [/quote]


Hey dumbass I just sent the drive in, less than a month ago, I gave them a call and they sent me a new 40GB drive, period. I don't have to get s*** straight because I did it, not a year ago, not six months ago, I did this less than 4 weeks ago. And you call me a bitch, your the one that IBM bent over and raped for not only shipping charges, but you also had to pay for the "foam" that they kindly sent me wrapped around my new harddrive. While your trying to act like a badass on the net, I'm playing with my new hard drive, paid for by IBM-Hitachi, bitch.

 

[SgtZulu]

I've had a <insert hard drive name> die on me and they suck,never buy a <insert hard drive name> .