MX510 Logitech Gaming Mouse $39

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GizmoJoe

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I have the MX500 and use a program called LogiGamer to configure the other buttons for various games (it works with the MX510 as well). You can set it up to automatically detect a particular .exe and load a specific mouse profile. Easy to use and FREE!

You can get it at http://www.geocities.com/gpkgpk13/

Gizmo
 

Dubb

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hmmm, logigamer looks interesting, but it looks like it requires mouseware...I may have to get one and play around with it, see if it's worthwhile or just a giant PITA like the last time I tried to use mouseware and my KVM
 

Emrys

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Thanks for the deal, I was going to get one in 2 weeks when I got home, but if it is on sale now, might as well order.
 

screw3d

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Back-ordered.. :frown: And those crazy guys at ebay are buying them for >$50 :Q
 

mdcrab

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I have a KVM switch (Zonet 4 port). Does anyone know if I would have any problems using a MX510 w/ a KVM?

mdcrab
 

deepinya

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Originally posted by: rival
damn i just got the mx500 o well, looks ugly anyways


I dont know why people get all crazy about this new mouse. Its not any more precisee than the mx500.

the whole 15gs a second is just a bunch of garbage. If you can move the mx500 fast enough to make it skip then you must be on crack. Logitech should have upped the dpi instead of putting out this pos and calling it a "gaming mouse". The mx500 is every bit a "gaming mouse" as the mx510.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: GizmoJoe
I have the MX500 and use a program called LogiGamer to configure the other buttons for various games (it works with the MX510 as well). You can set it up to automatically detect a particular .exe and load a specific mouse profile. Easy to use and FREE!

You can get it at http://www.geocities.com/gpkgpk13/

Gizmo


good stuff


Not exactly too enamored by the fake red marble finish. I guess some people like it, but it probably won't go with most people's desktops.

hah, beige would be "matching" for most desktops. but well beige is ugly if you see it in person, the finish is quite nice, its more of a 3d effect then a simple weirdo print. its certainly prettier then the dark silver plasticy mx500, let alone 310. i'd say its in the same league as the 700/900 for finish.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Dubb
I keep wanting to get one of these, but I'm hesitant because I use a KVM (belkin). The kvm only lets me use default mouse drivers, so no "mouseware" or any of that stuff. How does this thing work on default windows drivers...can you program the extra buttons in windows?

I may wind up getting this or a MX500 anyway...my trackball is starting to get a little long in the tooth.
I have a Belkin KVM and I have the Intellipoint drivers working for my Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 no problems.
 

SEAL62505

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Thanks for the post, picked one up today. So far, it is hard for me to tell the difference in tracking between my Explorer 3.0. I do like the software a lot more than microsofts though.
 

charloscarlies

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I dont know why people get all crazy about this new mouse. Its not any more precisee than the mx500.

Umm call me crazy....but isn't the increased dpi the ONLY real difference?

The mx500 is 4.7 megapixels and the mx510 is 5.8 if I remember correctly.
 

hytek369

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Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I dont know why people get all crazy about this new mouse. Its not any more precisee than the mx500.

Umm call me crazy....but isn't the increased dpi the ONLY real difference?

The mx500 is 4.7 megapixels and the mx510 is 5.8 if I remember correctly.

i think you are right
 

deepinya

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Originally posted by: charloscarlies
I dont know why people get all crazy about this new mouse. Its not any more precisee than the mx500.

Umm call me crazy....but isn't the increased dpi the ONLY real difference?

The mx500 is 4.7 megapixels and the mx510 is 5.8 if I remember correctly.


They are BOTH 800dpi. The scanning rate is based upon how fast you can move the mouse without it skipping.

Bottom line....one is not better than the other for gaming.

 

Yo2

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This may be a stupid question but: how does megapixels translate into transfer rate (i.e. mbits/s). If one pixel is 2 bits (0 or 1) we would end up at 12mbit/s.

Does the P/s2 port support this speed or do I have to atleast use a usb 1.1 port (14mbit/s)?
 

Razorguts

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Have to throw my 2cents in on this one - I bought in on this deal, upgrading from a logitech dual mouseman. This mx510, something just doesn't feel right about it. My first beef is that the scroll wheel button has a lot of play - you can push it considerably, and no click. Gotta really push it down there, which is frustrating because the wheel is already not as "exposed" as my dual mouseman (for example, looking at it from a sideview, mx510 scroll wheel is "sunk" into the mouse more, if that makes sense). Having to push this far/hard to get middle mouse click can cause accidental scrolling, which is no good in FPS games.

Also, primary and 2ndary mouse buttons seem too far apart, I suppose since the scroll wheel in between has its own casing with the buttons above and below it. Just seems that when I come off the wheel to go back to 2ndary fire, Im not on the button but rather still on the plastic casing that holds the scroll wheel.

the 2 side buttons are positioned OK, so I can lock my thumb on the left side of the mouse for intense gaming and not worry about accidentally hitting either one. But the foreward most button is a little tough to access anyway.

Tracking seems a little more sensitive, not necessarily tighter, but for example, if you hover the mouse just over your mouse surface (I use Ratpadz GS), the mx510 can track while lifted higher than my old mouse. Of course, not that I would game like this, but I was just testing.

Tye-dye paint job is so-so, but I hear they are releasing blue and silver versions in addition to the red that is already out.

anyway, just an opinion. Im not convinced that this was worth a $40 upgrade, but I'll keep it and try to get used to it.
 

screw3d

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It said backordered when I added and ordered it the day before but an email just came saying that it's shipped w00t!
 

'BARtMAN'

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Originally posted by: Yo2
This may be a stupid question but: how does megapixels translate into transfer rate (i.e. mbits/s). If one pixel is 2 bits (0 or 1) we would end up at 12mbit/s.

Does the P/s2 port support this speed or do I have to atleast use a usb 1.1 port (14mbit/s)?

I doubt the mouse just dumps raw "images" to the computer and has it do the calculations, I would guess it would do it all in the mouse. The specs even state the mouse can do 5.8mpixel/sec, so this makes me think I am pretty on with how this works. The mouse would just translate all the information into X/Y positions(this is how ps2 mice worked who knows what they do now) and then send it to the computer...

On a side note the fastest rate a USB port could do is 125(polls)/sec, ps/2 can have a rate of 200/sec... So if you can use a ps/2 connector with a supporting ps2 mouse. Then setting the sample rate at 200 on the driver side of the mouse, I would highly advice this over USB. If you don't have a rate option in your mouse driver you can also look for a nice little util called "ps2rate." Why mice ever moved from ps/2 to USB is beyond me (from a gamers viewpoint that is).

I've been looking for a new mouse (I finally got a larger desk at home, so I can finally get rid of my trackball) and I really wish logitech would have redesigned the MX510. I've tried a friends MX300 and I just did not like the way it felt in my hand. The Razor Viper is smaller then the Logitech mice from my understanding, so I'll probably have to stay away from them also. I current have a intellimouse explorer 2.0 (here at work), and I just love how it fits my hand. I really get annoyed by the cursor twitch.
 

0roo0roo

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Have to throw my 2cents in on this one - I bought in on this deal, upgrading from a logitech dual mouseman. This mx510, something just doesn't feel right about it. My first beef is that the scroll wheel button has a lot of play - you can push it considerably, and no click. Gotta really push it down there, which is frustrating because the wheel is already not as "exposed" as my dual mouseman (for example, looking at it from a sideview, mx510 scroll wheel is "sunk" into the mouse more, if that makes sense). Having to push this far/hard to get middle mouse click can cause accidental scrolling, which is no good in FPS games.

i noticed that at first, but i got used to it very quick. i think the ms mouse trained me to push it very lightly.


as for the ps2 port, logitech drivers ussually have a refresh slider that goes to 200hz. but from what i've read, the ps2 port is more primitive and sucks more system resources, so in the end, its no better then usb.
 

'BARtMAN'

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with ps/2 sure it takes up another shared IRQ just for it. But for a game you really want the mouse to have high priority...
 

sm4k

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Originally posted by: hytek369
is this better than microsoft explorer 4.0?

I use an MX 500 as my main gaming mouse right now, and I bought an IE 4.0 because I liked the IE 3.0 so much (but the feel on the MX eye won me over). I was hoping for an IE 3.0 with just a better eye on it. Man was I disappointed. Eye for Eye the IE 4.0 and the mx500 feel identical to me. It might be that the IE 4.0 is better, but I didn't notice a major difference. As for the feel of the mouse itself, the mx500 just feels better on my hand, and the side buttons are easier to use, but that's a personal preference thing. My major beef with the IE 4.0 is that when you install the correct drivers for it, the mouse 3 defaults to being mapped to alt-tab, and you can only re-map any of the extra buttons to a single keyboard key, enter. With the IE 3.0 I was able to remap mouse 3, and both side buttons to keyboard keys, and use all of them in any game if I just mapped a function to that key. With the IE 4.0 you can only remap the buttons to windows functions (copy, paste, alt-tab, etc.) with the exception of Enter, and that went to mouse 3. When I went to play quake, I have my LG bound to mouse 3, and when you press the button, it has a lag to it. It takes about a half-second for mouse 3 to do it's action after you press it. A lot of time in a heated game.

I dont use the mousewheel for much in games, but when I do, I prefer it to tick when I roll it. I just got used to how many ticks it took to switch to plasma gun when I had rocket launcher out. The wheel of the IE 4.0 doesn't tick when you roll it, it's smooth. So when I was using it, I had to take time out of what I was doing, and actually look down at the weapon selection to see what weapon I was picking. The mousewheel tilt functions are completely useless to me as they don't map in games either, and since I run 1600x1200 I rarely need to 'side scroll' anything.

As far as mouse weight, the IE 4.0 is about the same weight as the IE 3.0, which both are slightly heavier than the mx500 after the weight is removed.

I hope that answers your question well enough, I hate the IE 4.0 as a gaming mouse. I use it at work just because every mouse there is a ball mouse.

If the main difference between the mx500 and the 510 is just eye dpi, it might be worth checking out, but I tend to agree with other's postings that it probably isn't noticable to the average user.

Side note: Those of you who own an mx500 and are thinking about getting an mx510, but don't like the way the marble looks, I bet you can take the silver shell off an mx500 and put it on the 510, they look like they are the exact same mouse shell. I was planning on doing that if I made the jump to a 510

Edit:
Originally posted by: deepinya
They are BOTH 800dpi. The scanning rate is based upon how fast you can move the mouse without it skipping.

The MX510 runs at 800dpi natively, but unless they changed it in recent drivers, you have to do some registry hacking to get an MX500 to run at 800dpi. They boast how it's able to, but it won't run that way unless you make it so.
 
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