My 11 yo will not stop bugging me about Beatz headphones

[SAWYER]

Yes he knows, he thought they were real and paid 150 plus traded a 22 but after doing research he found out they were knock offs.

 

[highland145]

Yes he knows, he thought they were real and paid 150 plus traded a 22 but after doing research he found out they were knock offs.

Ouch.

Edit: I'd like to know, later, if his friends notice. Might be a good lesson after all.

 

[HumblePie]

LOL, no offense but sometimes in life you get what you deserve when you become a sheep.

 

[SAWYER]

I told him all that but I like to present my kids with the info and advice but still let them make their own decisions sometimes..even dumb ones. The I told you so will be worth it on this

 

[Oyeve]

Shoulda got him some SOL cans. Made by the son of of the guy who made beats. 1/3 the price and pretty decent and simplistic.

 

[amdhunter]

If you want an over-the-head pair that is closed, how about these for $56?

Skip these. I think my M30's are fine for what I paid, but the M50's are where it's at. In the $50-60 range, I'd rather get an MDR-V6 SONY, and go deaf with them on.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V6-Mo.../dp/B00001WRSJ

EDIT: I'd take the MDR-V6 over the M50 if I were buying a set today. I've used them since High School and have no idea why I wanted to go to the Audio Technica's. Sometimes reading reviews can screw you up.

 

[waggy]

I told him all that but I like to present my kids with the info and advice but still let them make their own decisions sometimes..even dumb ones. The I told you so will be worth it on this

sometimes its best to let them make small mistakes to learn a lesson.

 

[SAWYER]

Skip these. I think my M30's are fine for what I paid, but the M50's are where it's at. In the $50-60 range, I'd rather get an MDR-V6 SONY, and go deaf with them on.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V6-Mo.../dp/B00001WRSJ

EDIT: I'd take the MDR-V6 over the M50 if I were buying a set today. I've used them since High School and have no idea why I wanted to go to the Audio Technica's. Sometimes reading reviews can screw you up.

Those mdr-v6's are better than the athm50s? I love my athm50s but if the Sony's are better I would like to try them

 

[schneiderguy]

Yes he knows, he thought they were real and paid 150 plus traded a 22 but after doing research he found out they were knock offs.

 

[Oyeve]

Skip these. I think my M30's are fine for what I paid, but the M50's are where it's at. In the $50-60 range, I'd rather get an MDR-V6 SONY, and go deaf with them on.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V6-Mo.../dp/B00001WRSJ

EDIT: I'd take the MDR-V6 over the M50 if I were buying a set today. I've used them since High School and have no idea why I wanted to go to the Audio Technica's. Sometimes reading reviews can screw you up.

Nice! I'm literally on my MDR-V6 since 1986! Same cans, just changed the pads a few times over the decades!

 

[classy]

As long as "Awesome" means "incorrectly bass heavy, and complimentary enough that people can better enjoy listening to poor source material", then yeah. We can absolutely agree that Beatz are awesome. Absolutely Perfect for their intended demographic.

That is what they are made for. I said plainly they are not great for like looking at movies, but when it comes to music, they bring bass clarity no other. They are not made for classical music or some dumb ass talking about all around fildelity, or musical correctness. But if its hard rock music, hip hop, if its about bass, they are extremely tough to beat.

 

[Lean L]

I knew it wasn't spelled with a z... It looks stupid that way.

 

[Fritzo]

Why do people buy Bose sound equipment, Heineken, or starbucks coffee beans? If you think it's quality, you're a brandwhore who is incapable seeing through marketing for quality.

I bought Heineken because I saw James Bond drink it :$

On that note, it's so bitter and sour I couldn't finish the bottle.

 

[phucheneh]

I would've just gotten him some Grado's and a 2x4 to whack his friends upside their dumb faces with.

Wait, he's eleven; that's inappropriate.


.....make that a 1x4.

 

[Leros]

I would've just gotten him some Grado's and a 2x4 to whack his friends upside their dumb faces with.

Wait, he's eleven; that's inappropriate.


.....make that a 1x4.

I bet I could beat up an 11 year old with a 1x2 :hmm:

 

[phucheneh]

I bet I could beat up an 11 year old with a 1x2 :hmm:

Not enough tensile strength. You've got balsa wood at that point.


...really, though, is eleven too young to comprehend 'sounds good'? I would think that if you took a good set of cans to a store with a 'beatz' demo, and let him compare, he's probably be able to make a conclusion. At the least, it would be 'these sound more clear, but I like all the bass on these others...'

Then, you explain the concept of money. And how there are plenty of garbled bass-heavy headphones for way less.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Seems as if a lot of people in this thread do not remember being 11 years old...

 

[phucheneh]

Seems as if a lot of people in this thread do not remember being 11 years old...

A lot of us were probably pretty weird eleven-year-olds.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Tell him to get a fucking job and buy his own.

11 year old kids can shovel snow, mow lawns, etc. to earn money.

He won't earn enough in one day to buy them...but delayed gratification is good for the soul...

Lol, this is just one of those things that I would outright refuse regardless of the begging. I'm a pretty lenient person, but I can't see supporting blatant ignorance in an attempt to be cool. They have inferior sound quality in that price range, so they certainly wouldn't be worth that money. $100 puts you in Ultrasone 900 territory which is an immense improvement when it comes to bass-forward cans. There's just no point to the Beats.

Tell your eleven year old to get a job and pay for his own head phones.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks the kid is just pushing his luck. My folks had NO problem saying NO. After a while, I learned not to ask. Practice safe parenting, just say no.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

That is what they are made for. I said plainly they are not great for like looking at movies, but when it comes to music, they bring bass clarity no other. They are not made for classical music or some dumb ass talking about all around fildelity, or musical correctness. But if its hard rock music, hip hop, if its about bass, they are extremely tough to beat.

This just isn't true. The Ultrasone headphones are pretty much the known rulers of "hip hop bass" cans with Sony's MDR-XB series having dominion over Sub-bass. The Ultrasone Pro 750's walk all over the Beats headphones, while if sub-bass (DubStep) is the primary music, the Sony XB700's are pretty much unchallenged, nothing goes as low, and as hard as the XB700's with the exception of their own hard-to-come-by Japanese only XB1000's.

The proof is in the pudding, and the only the Beats headphones have such an uneven, short frequency response.

The only thing that is even nearly as uneven in the upper range is the Sony XB500, a headphone that not only costs nearly $170 less than the Beats headphones, but does so while providing nearly infinitely higher sub-bass (since the Beats literally drop off a cliff below 40Hz, and also providing nearly 3x the mid-bass output of the Beats.

They do all this while sounding clearer, and just plain out being better in construction, and fit.

The Beats have nothing except their image. There is nothing tough to beat about them.

 

[Koing]

I had the Monster Turbines and they were good but I ruined them. One of the headphones fell down the escalator and it got chewed up . Luckily I got them at HMV and purchased their insurance for 10% of the items value. I got the Beats Tours with the flat cable. And I have to say the flat cable is a simple but really really good innovation. My cables rarely ever twist. Lasted well but one pair the cable still got ripped up and I got them replaced. Then nearly a year later I lost them

I have some A Jays for £40 and they are good, just as good as the Tours and 1/3 the price and I have that sweet flat cable. I put them in a case when I don't use them anymore. Going strong so far.

Had a bunch of Sony and Sennheisers in the £30-40 range and the cable always twists like a ah heck and the 3.5mm jack also ends up braking,

http://www.jays.se/products/a-jays-one-plus

Koing

 

[HeXen]

Subconsciously, you did. Plus, it ain't just the ads. There is much more to marketing than promotion.

marketing a product heavily has nothing to do with quality of product. However ever single audio manufacturer markets their goods...just pick up any Audio magazine or websites. But you see it on TV often and suddenly it's mainstream junk? lol psychology is a funny thing, however if you get enough basher's for any product who often are biased and never use them, it resonates to others. Microsoft made a funny commercial about that in regard to Vista and W8, sadly it's true.

Go to any audio forum, from car audio to home, it's comical to watch the "l33t" ones make silver audio cable despite the fact that slightly larger copper does the same difference to most peoples ears and no analytical math formula will dictate one's taste in sound perception. yet even using smaller copper and very few can tell any difference. Then everyone argue's...from resistor quality to using Class A vs Class A/b. It's all retarded really when half of them listen to MP3's or BT from phone. It's like they all must sit in dark rooms and analyze musical notes all day...who the fuck does that crap? Most just listen for fun, often in noisy environments, pure and simple.
Audio is very subject and most average people do not like audiophile grade equipment...they like "colored" sound at that.

In the example of Bose, they do well cause they know what frequencies to cut and raise through decades of research. It's overpriced components, but to most it actually sounds pretty good in a living room considering the size...and size is a major factor for many. This is why so many companies make small speakers these days...it takes air to make sound and those tweeters are not like having horns or anything, but the tech pays off and mimicking close equivalents in small packages is what people like.

As for OP, he's a kid, kid's do not look cool with unpopular brands and geek talk of how it's "better". It's all about the image and persona something has, not if it uses $400+ hardware inside from a brand his friends are not familiar with.
It was like Reebok pumps back in my day, they were pointless, overpriced..etc and no doubt Brooks made a better shoe but wouldn't have done crap for a kid's popularity back then. They want what they want and that is it. I think many adults forget what it's like to be a kid with friends going to a public school.

 

[classy]

This just isn't true. The Ultrasone headphones are pretty much the known rulers of "hip hop bass" cans with Sony's MDR-XB series having dominion over Sub-bass. The Ultrasone Pro 750's walk all over the Beats headphones, while if sub-bass (DubStep) is the primary music, the Sony XB700's are pretty much unchallenged, nothing goes as low, and as hard as the XB700's with the exception of their own hard-to-come-by Japanese only XB1000's.

The proof is in the pudding, and the only the Beats headphones have such an uneven, short frequency response.

The only thing that is even nearly as uneven in the upper range is the Sony XB500, a headphone that not only costs nearly $170 less than the Beats headphones, but does so while providing nearly infinitely higher sub-bass (since the Beats literally drop off a cliff below 40Hz, and also providing nearly 3x the mid-bass output of the Beats.

They do all this while sounding clearer, and just plain out being better in construction, and fit.

The Beats have nothing except their image. There is nothing tough to beat about them.

Never heard of Ultrasone's, but I tried the XB500's, they were not as good. The music sounded muffled in those.

 

[PottedMeat]

so beats is just a filter that is a representation of Dr Dre's hearing damage?

 

[Sephire]

Forget Grados, give him $15 JVC headphones.