My 3.2C is still running fine after all these years.

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HannibalX

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Just a little hyperbole there. I've seen hundreds of different P4 computers, from Williamette to Presler.. and none of them ran hot enough to "cook an egg". If they do, there's a fan/air movement problem.. and that would eventually be a problem for any computer, not just a P4-based system.

As an aside, it doesn't really take that much heat to cook an egg. Compared to what it takes to, say, boil water, eggs cook *very* easily.

HP, Dell, etc, all run hot. Dell P4 notebooks run very, very hot. C640s, they'll burn your legs with the 2.6s... I've seen thousands of them from all the big OEMs, they all run hot. It's well known.
 

StinkyPinky

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Bah, have some crappy old pentium 2 sitting on my work desk that's been running for about 12 years...basically non-stop. (as a licence server)
 

ShreddedWheat

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About 2.5-3 years ago fired up an old cyrix 133mhz processor equivalent to 486 and ran fine. Still in garage should try to see if it will still boot AMD 500 mhz lappy still working fine!
 

dualsmp

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Behind me is my old P4 2.8c [Northwood], Abit Ic7 original, not the 'G' or 'Max' version mobo.
It has 3gb of mixed Mushkin and GSkill ram, Leadtech 7600GT agp card.
WD 80 and 120gb hdd's and the Antec 430tp psu in a Antec 1080 case
I keep CoD/UO installed along with HL2 etc for old times sake.
I ran the 2.8 at 3-3.2ghz for years but now the wife thinks it's just fine at default speeds.

I can't complain about Intel. Their reliability is fantastic plus my 920 is running at 3.2ghz - 3.360ghz when Turbo kicks in.
Now I have a fast one too.

I have basically the same rig and it still chugs along. I've been through 3 power supplies though and 3 hard drives but the original bones though are still there. I upgraded the video card for the heck of it which used to be an old Geforce 4 Ti 4200. Too bad Abit is defunct. Sniff

Abit IC7
2.6c@3.15
2 GB Crucial
Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 AGP
1 TB Samsung EcoGreen
Corsair VX450
Just a little hyperbole there. I've seen hundreds of different P4 computers, from Williamette to Presler.. and none of them ran hot enough to "cook an egg". If they do, there's a fan/air movement problem.. and that would eventually be a problem for any computer, not just a P4-based system.
My Northwood rig above idles at 78w from the wall, and if I swap video card out for a 9600 XT the idle power is 56w which isn't too bad. I'm sure the Prescott idles above 100w, but comparatively it really isn't that insane given most of the people running HD 48xx series Radeons are idling quite a bit over 100w on a modern system with a C2D.
 
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Yea i understand stranger but it cool to have a 3.8ghz P4 S478

This reminds me of the noob in UT3 who was bragging about his new rig. He said he had a water cooled 4.4Ghz Pentium D and a GTX260, or 4890, I don't recall. It was much better than my graphics card though. I told him my e2180 at stock speeds was faster than his setup. He got angry. I asked him what FPS he was getting, he was playing at 1920x1200. He said 50.

I lol'd.
 

justinm

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I have basically the same rig and it still chugs along. I've been through 3 power supplies though and 3 hard drives but the original bones though are still there. I upgraded the video card for the heck of it which used to be an old Geforce 4 Ti 4200. Too bad Abit pulled from the states. Sniff

Abit IC7
2.6c@3.15
2 GB Crucial
Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 AGP
1 TB Samsung EcoGreen

My Northwood rig above idles at 78w from the wall, and if I swap video card out for a 9600 XT the idle power is 56w which isn't too bad. I'm sure the Prescott idles above 100w, but comparatively it really isn't that insane given most of the people running HD 48xx series Radeons are idling quite a bit over 100w on a modern system with a C2D.

I had an Abit IS7-E for almost 6 years running a 2.5/512/400. That system will be missed.
 

brandonwh64

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This reminds me of the noob in UT3 who was bragging about his new rig. He said he had a water cooled 4.4Ghz Pentium D and a GTX260, or 4890, I don't recall. It was much better than my graphics card though. I told him my e2180 at stock speeds was faster than his setup. He got angry. I asked him what FPS he was getting, he was playing at 1920x1200. He said 50.

I lol'd.

Im not mad LOL the P4 machine was just a "I was bored build" I currently have a Phenom II 965 BE C3 @ 3.9ghz and it runs good too.
 

zsdersw

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HP, Dell, etc, all run hot. Dell P4 notebooks run very, very hot. C640s, they'll burn your legs with the 2.6s... I've seen thousands of them from all the big OEMs, they all run hot. It's well known.

That doesn't make what you said true, though. It's still hyperbole.

You say that and yet every P4 system I've seen feels normal.. even the air coming out of the back is barely above room temperature. The power supply puts out warmer air than the case fan(s).
 

HannibalX

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That doesn't make what you said true, though. It's still hyperbole.

You say that and yet every P4 system I've seen feels normal.. even the air coming out of the back is barely above room temperature. The power supply puts out warmer air than the case fan(s).

Intel zealot at 6 o'clock.

I absolutely mean everything I post on this forum to be taken literally.

FWIW, I'm an IT person and have dealt with probably 8-10 thousand P4 machines from every major OEM vendors. I'll take my experiences over yours. The fact that you don't know about the C640 geothermal notebooks tells me you're not worth listening to.
 
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That doesn't make what you said true, though. It's still hyperbole.

You say that and yet every P4 system I've seen feels normal.. even the air coming out of the back is barely above room temperature. The power supply puts out warmer air than the case fan(s).

It holds a ton of weight.

I have multiple P4's in my office area. Two s775 Prescotts @ 3.2ghz w/ 2MB of L2, HT, and boy once excel boots up the fans scream like a crying baby. The P4 2.6ghz (no ht, 512k L2, thinking northwood?) is my CCTV viewer and it doesn't give out a single peep.

I'm guessing the higher clocked P4s w/ tons of cache are just bombs going off under the lid.
 

zsdersw

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FWIW, I'm an IT person and have dealt with probably 8-10 thousand P4 machines from every major OEM vendors. I'll take my experiences over yours. The fact that you don't know about the C640 geothermal notebooks tells me you're not worth listening to.

Yeah, I'm an IT person too.. and have dealt with hundreds of P4 systems and many different P4 laptops. Your anecdotal experience doesn't trump mine, nor mine yours.

If a few specific brands/models of laptops have heat problems, guess what, that's a laptop design problem not a CPU problem.

There are many Netburst laptops that don't burn anyone's anything... and there are laptops with non-Netburst CPUs in them that do burn things. The fact that you don't seem to get that tells me you're not worth listening to.
 
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zsdersw

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It holds a ton of weight.

Not really.

I have multiple P4's in my office area. Two s775 Prescotts @ 3.2ghz w/ 2MB of L2, HT, and boy once excel boots up the fans scream like a crying baby. The P4 2.6ghz (no ht, 512k L2, thinking northwood?) is my CCTV viewer and it doesn't give out a single peep.

What kind of case/cooling/CPU fan does each type of system have? I've had Prescott systems like that which are silent when the computer is booting (a significantly more processor-intensive task than opening Excel). Using the amount of fan noise to judge the heat/power consumption merit of the CPU doesn't make any sense.
 
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aigomorla

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Hey felix what is the main point in your machine.

Maybe we can tell ya if waiting for 32nm is worth it or not.
 

FelixDeCat

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Hey felix what is the main point in your machine.

Maybe we can tell ya if waiting for 32nm is worth it or not.

Pretty much just surfing the web, playing an online game or two and some old Windows games like Simcity
from 1995 (and DOS favorites). Thats pretty much it. I also edit and encode video for Youtube on occassion.
I have one video generating revenue, so Im trying to make more.
 

ShawnD1

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Pretty much just surfing the web, playing an online game or two and some old Windows games like Simcity
from 1995 (and DOS favorites). Thats pretty much it. I also edit and encode video for Youtube on occassion.
I have one video generating revenue, so Im trying to make more.
I think the main reason to upgrade your system would be to increase the amount of available memory as well as get new motherboard slots. A lot of flash and other video can be done by the video card, but your motherboard probably doesn't even have PCI Express slots. The Athlon system I had when the P4 3.2 was out only supported 2gb of memory, and I think that's a major problem. I'm barely even doing anything on this computer and it uses 1.5gb of memory.
 

stevty2889

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Ha. We've got a 1.8A still chugging with a 6800nu at the house for the step-siblings to use. The hdd sounds to be on it's way out, but that proc is going strong. had to replace the mobo about a year ago, but man, that thing is never turned off.

I've still got an overclocked 1.6A running at my parents house, with RDRAM, as well as a 1.8ghz Williamette with SDRAM. Next oldest would be my 3.2ghz flamethrower prescott engineering sample, gotta keep the window open when it's 15 degees outside because it heats up the room so much.
 

Arkaign

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I've still got an overclocked 1.6A running at my parents house, with RDRAM, as well as a 1.8ghz Williamette with SDRAM. Next oldest would be my 3.2ghz flamethrower prescott engineering sample, gotta keep the window open when it's 15 degees outside because it heats up the room so much.

Heh. Gate leakage FTL. Intel's first foray into 90nm was such fail. Oddly, the later 65nm P4 and PD processors were relative gems, it's just that AMD64/X2 was better in the end.
 

judasmachine

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I have an old AXP 2600+ pumping away F@H work units, and serving files 24/7 for years. It's on an ASUS nForce2 mATX board. The HDD has had to be replaced twice, but other than that it's stock.
 

Munky

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Pssshh, I got a dell 1.6ghz P4 chugging along after 8+ years. Oh, and a GF2 MX too, lol.
 

Markfw

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I have a pentium 200 still playing Dune 2 and the original Command & Conquer !

And an Athlon XP1700 playing Red alert....

And an X2 3800 playing Dune 2000.
 
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