My 3d2001se score is loooow for my system... what do you think the score should be?

[psteng19]

** I know these scores are all very artificial and don't mean much in real life, but it would be nice for me to figure out what the bottleneck in my system is **

Here are my system specs, tell me what you think my score should be at.
I'll post my score up later.

XP1700+ T-Bred B @ 1.46Ghz
MSI K7T Turbo2 (KT133A)
GeForce4 Ti4600 @ stock speeds
512 MB PC133 Kingston ValueRAM
WD 1200JB "SE" 120 GB
latest Detonator and Hypherion drivers

Yeah, I know the bottleneck is in the PC133/KT133A combo.
Just wanted to know if my score is where it should be though.

 

[m1ke101]

tell us your score first

 

[XBoxLPU]

~7500-8000

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: m1ke101
tell us your score first

he is too embarrased

btw, the bottleneck is the pc133 ram

 

[Switch7]

I think your pretty close to what you should be for that motherboard/ram combination.

 

[Corporate Thug]

it may be a little low, nothing to worry about

 

[zephyrprime]

It's either your processor or your RAM. OC your processor. It should be able to do 1.9-2.0 easy or higher if it's a newer core.

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
It's either your processor or your RAM. OC your processor. It should be able to do 1.9-2.0 easy or higher if it's a newer core.

My limitation is the PC133 ValueRAM.
I can get up to 142 FSB before it starts to lock up in Windows.
The T-Bred's multipliers are locked at 12.5 I believe.
So the max I hit with that CPU was 1.8Ghz.

BTW, my score was a disappointing 8860

Disappointing because others with similarly clocked CPU's (but on DDR platforms) and Ti4600 are hitting 10,000-12,000.

 

[Insidious]

I think you're about right for what you have.

-Sid

For a video benchmark tool, 3DMarkxxxx is disappointingly dependent upon CPU and memory.

I agree with you that it is a nice tool for comparing how changes you make affect your system, but for comparison
from one system to another it is good for little.

Consider this, a lot of people strip their systems for the sake of marks.... others don't bother and just lie about their marks...
and some are being very diligent and honest.... hard to sort out one from another.

Don't sweat it! :beer:

 

[BmXStuD]

cPU and RAM duh. Overclock your cpu and vid card. And get a new mobo w/ ddr and not sdram.

 

[XBoxLPU]

I had 8500 with a GF3 and AMD/DDR ...

 

[Chobits]

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
It's either your processor or your RAM. OC your processor. It should be able to do 1.9-2.0 easy or higher if it's a newer core.

My limitation is the PC133 ValueRAM.
I can get up to 142 FSB before it starts to lock up in Windows.
The T-Bred's multipliers are locked at 12.5 I believe.
So the max I hit with that CPU was 1.8Ghz.

BTW, my score was a disappointing 8860

Disappointing because others with similarly clocked CPU's (but on DDR platforms) and Ti4600 are hitting 10,000-12,000.

Be happy! My rig pulls 6,725 In 3dmark 2000

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Hey! I pull like 2600 something in that! Woohoo! I can only run like 1 or 2 of the 3DMark2k3 clips so be even happier... But in two weeks don't compare since I'll be running on a 2.8C with a 9700 Pro! Yahoo!

 

[Slammy1]

2 months ago I ran 700 on 3dMark01, now my score is slightly better.

 

[zephyrprime]

The T-Bred's multipliers are locked at 12.5 I believe.

It's your MB. It was made before 5bit multipliers so it can't access the higher multipliers.

Maybe a cheap new MB will help you out.

 

[Jeff7181]

Yeah... that OLD PC133 RAM is a HUGE bottleneck. Get rid of that motherboard and that RAM and come join us in the 21st century =)

An Epox 8RDA+ motherboard would be great... and then get 512 MB of PC3200 RAM

 

[Dulanic]

Yup its the PC133.... I have close to the same setup... but with a 1600+ @1.85Ghz and a GF4 4200 @ 4600 speeds and I almost hit 13000. So really a NForce 2 and some DDR Ram should kick you up to 11000-12000 area.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
Yup its the PC133.... I have close to the same setup... but with a 1600+ @1.85Ghz and a GF4 4200 @ 4600 speeds and I almost hit 13000. So really a NForce 2 and some DDR Ram should kick you up to 11000-12000 area.

Wow... my Ti4200 @ 265/500 gets over 13,000... how much and what type of RAM do you have?

 

[DeathByDuke]

its the game scores you should be more concerned about not 3DMark as for example how fast does UT2K3 run or how fast is Jedi Knight 2....

3DMark is just not credible anymore as its too dependent on CPU and Memory and not just video, however the fillrate and polygon tests are useful...

 

[MercenaryForHire]

/adds another tickmark beside "get a new motherboard and some DDR already"



- M4H

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: DeathByDuke
its the game scores you should be more concerned about not 3DMark as for example how fast does UT2K3 run or how fast is Jedi Knight 2....

3DMark is just not credible anymore as its too dependent on CPU and Memory and not just video, however the fillrate and polygon tests are useful...

I don't have UT2k3 or Jedi Knight 2... or Quake 3 Arena.

I get over 100 fps I think in BF1942 if that tells you anything.

I get about 60-70 fps in Soldier of Fortune 2 with 2X AA and 4X AF on... if that tells you anything. (that uses the Quake 3 engine right?)

Hmmm, what else... oh yeah... I can turn 4X AA and 8X AF on in Counter-Strike and not drop below 85 fps, which is what I have it limited to since that's what my refresh rate is, and when it shoots up to 99 fps it looks as bad as if it were at 30 fps.

While synthetic benchmark scores of "13,000 3DMarks" may not mean anything by itself... if one machine scores 13,000, and another scores 10,000 it's pretty safe to say the one that scored 13,000 will do better in every game.

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

The T-Bred's multipliers are locked at 12.5 I believe.

It's your MB. It was made before 5bit multipliers so it can't access the higher multipliers.

Maybe a cheap new MB will help you out.

My motherboard has multiplier settings all the way up to 15x (or something like that), but it only has whole number increments after 12.
So when I put it at 13, and check the clock speeds, it's registering at 12.5, which leads me to think the max multiplier for the CPU is at 12.5.

NOTE: I DO have a DDR system - NForce2 Dual Channel DDR (1 Gig of PC2100) running with an XP2200+
Check my system rigs

It's just that my other 3 rigs are still PC133/KT133A systems, and I'd like to get them moving as fast as possible.
It seems like a waste if my slower platforms all running with Ti4600's and scoring below 10,000.
See the replies above with Ti4600's all in the 12,000+ range

 

[Ketchup]

Your score is right where it should be for your system. You can't expect much more than that without overclocking your processor and getting a motherboard that supports DDR. One of my old systems was an XP 1800 on a KT333 board and a ti4400. At default speed, I would get 10,000 3dmarks.

 

[zephyrprime]

My motherboard has multiplier settings all the way up to 15x (or something like that), but it only has whole number increments after 12.
So when I put it at 13, and check the clock speeds, it's registering at 12.5, which leads me to think the max multiplier for the CPU is at 12.5.

No it really is the MB. Other people with the 1700+ can get high multipliers with it. I have a MB like yours, the epox 8kha+, that has multipliers up to 15x but only with whole number increments after 12.5x. The only thing is, it can't actually access 13x or higher with any processor at all because it's something is wrong with it's multiplier settings. Odd thing is, if you set it to 7x, then you'll actually get a 15x if your processor is the 2100+ or above. With the 2000+ or below, 7x is 7x.

Other people have been blaming your ram but I don't believe it. I used to run with a 1700+ with a ti4400 and DDR and I only got like 10k-11k on 3dmark 2001. Getting a new 1700+ TB has made a big difference for me once I overclocked it.

 

[Malladine]

For comparison, my wife's system has the following specs:

1700+ @ 1.47
Radeon 9700 Gold
1GB PC2700 RAM
ECS K7S5A SiS735 board

10,300 3DMarks.

I expect it'd achieve quite a bit more with a KT400/Nforce2 mobo.