my 5th grade son was kicked out of class yesturday

[waggy]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

Get with the times, grandpa. Email is a completely legit form of communication.

Now, if the OP had sent a text message saying "OMGWTFBBQ!?!?!?!?"...

In some cases, a face to face conversation is much more effective than a emailed message.
This happens to be one of those cases.

not really, i want it in writing on exactly her justification on sending him out of class.

Why, you still don't know why he was sent out of class? I would think that they didn't want the whole class to get sick. Is that hard to understand?

is the kid showing any other flu like symptoms? is he feavered? sweating and sick?

or was it just 3 sneezes from allergies?

one the teacher may be right. the other she over reacted A LOT.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: nerp
Blowhard lunatic parents are always great. Remember, your kid is a shining star who can do no wrong. And his version of the story is perfectly accurate, always. Kids don't mislead parents, ever.

Overprotective nanny whiners are always great. Remember, everything is a threat to your perfectly controlled utopia. A sneeze MUST mean that the child has swine flu and is a danger to the entire school! The teacher wasn't "safe" enough! The child should have been quarantined!

:roll:

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

Get with the times, grandpa. Email is a completely legit form of communication.

Now, if the OP had sent a text message saying "OMGWTFBBQ!?!?!?!?"...

In some cases, a face to face conversation is much more effective than a emailed message.
This happens to be one of those cases.

not really, i want it in writing on exactly her justification on sending him out of class.

Why, you still don't know why he was sent out of class? I would think that they didn't want the whole class to get sick. Is that hard to understand?

That's stupid though - it's back to school season and allergy season - kids are gonna sneeze - you can't sit one out in the hall for an hour every time he sneezes 3 times. If you're that fucking worried about it, then call the kid's parent and send him/her home for the day. Don't be a fucking douche and sit them out in the hall for an hour by themselves like you would someone who is misbehaving.

EDIT: 'You' here is directed at the teacher, not you personally, zoiks.

 

[rocadelpunk]

teacher just might have forgot the kid was outside the classroom. Happens when you're dealing with 30 + balls of energy going in different directions

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

I want a written record of it.

Sad times we live in that everyone wants to set themselves up to sue everyone.

 

[torpid]

How is sitting outside the classroom in the hallway an effective quarantine method?

 

[swanysto]

Eh, I bet he probably deserved it for something anyway. I remember getting away with a lot things, then getting punished for things I didn't do. Plus, he probably made it seem to you that all he did was sneeze, but he was probably disrupting class in some way he is not telling you. Obviously it has been a LONG time since you were a kid, but for those of us who can still remember those times, we weren't always as innocent as we led on.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

Get with the times, grandpa. Email is a completely legit form of communication.

Now, if the OP had sent a text message saying "OMGWTFBBQ!?!?!?!?"...

In some cases, a face to face conversation is much more effective than a emailed message.
This happens to be one of those cases.

not really, i want it in writing on exactly her justification on sending him out of class.

Why, you still don't know why he was sent out of class? I would think that they didn't want the whole class to get sick. Is that hard to understand?

how hard is to understand in my OP that he is not sick.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

I want a written record of it.

Sad times we live in that everyone wants to set themselves up to sue everyone.

did i say i was going to sue? good grief :roll:

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

I want a written record of it.

Sad times we live in that everyone wants to set themselves up to sue everyone.

did i say i was going to sue? good grief :roll:

Then why is documenting your correspondence with the teacher so important? If your child was the priority rather than some petty plan to get revenge on the teacher, one would think you would go talk to this person face to face or over the phone.

Instead you talk the stereotypical response that is all to common in our overly litigious society.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

I want a written record of it.

Sad times we live in that everyone wants to set themselves up to sue everyone.

did i say i was going to sue? good grief :roll:

Then why is documenting your correspondence with the teacher so important? If your child was the priority rather than some petty plan to get revenge on the teacher, one would think you would go talk to this person face to face or over the phone.

Instead you talk the stereotypical response that is all to common in our overly litigious society.

It is always smart to get EVERYTHING concerining the child in writing. its not always for a lawsuit. but to keep everything correct and no body gets mistaken on why he is in the hallway.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: zoiks
I wouldn't want my kid to get infected with a virus from another kid especially if it could be prevented. IMO, the teacher did the right thing.

From all data collected about you (the above quote) I have to conclude that you are an idiot.

 

[theknight571]

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

Lol... that made me immediately think of "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history."

But that's besides the point...

According to my son, and the papers he's brought home so far, there is "extreme paranoia" about the H1N1 in the school district.

We've been asked to send in hand sanitizer and sanitizing or Clorox wipes. They've also mentioned being more lenient with the absence policy so parents will keep their kids home at any sign of the flu and to also allow them to keep them home longer after the fever has gone. (They suggest at least one day, if not two.. post fever)

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: zoiks
I wouldn't want my kid to get infected with a virus from another kid especially if it could be prevented. IMO, the teacher did the right thing.

No, the teacher overreacted. Sneezing is not one of the symptoms:

What are the signs and symptoms of this virus in people?
The symptoms of 2009 H1N1 flu virus in people include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. A significant number of people who have been infected with this virus also have reported diarrhea and vomiting. Severe illnesses and death has occurred as a result of illness associated with this virus.
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/qa.htm

Generally, you ID those with fever as people to isolate.

Also, one hour doesn't do a damn thing.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: zoiks
I wouldn't want my kid to get infected with a virus from another kid especially if it could be prevented. IMO, the teacher did the right thing.

No, the teacher overreacted. Sneezing is not one of the symptoms:

What are the signs and symptoms of this virus in people?
The symptoms of 2009 H1N1 flu virus in people include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. A significant number of people who have been infected with this virus also have reported diarrhea and vomiting. Severe illnesses and death has occurred as a result of illness associated with this virus.
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/qa.htm

Generally, you ID those with fever as people to isolate.

Also, one hour doesn't do a damn thing.

even if the kid had a fever, runny nose etc. a hallway is nto the best place to put them. IF the teacher was really worried about the flu then she should have notified the nurse and the parents.

what the teacher did was silly and counter productive.

 

[rocadelpunk]

I would say for these types of matters teachers (well at least me) prefer e-mail, because we have to/supposed to document parent discussions. If it were by phone we would have to log it and what not, but with e-mail it's just there.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
ZOMG TEH SWINE FLUZ WERE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

:roll:

OP, I would have been on the phone with the principal, superintendent, etc. all the way up the chain...in a heartbeat. Emails are very easy to ignore or marginalize...you need to get up in their face for stupidity like this.

this

 

[her209]

Kids have it so easy these days. Back when I was growing up, you had to be doing someone really naughty to be kicked out of class for a time.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Also, one hour doesn't do a damn thing.

Yeah - I'm pretty sure it takes longer than 1 hour to either
a) fight off the disease
b) be able to determine (from the time spent unsupervised in the hallway) it's not swine flu
c) die from swine flu

You should go meet with the teacher and sneeze 3 times during the meeting and see what happens

 

[rocadelpunk]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
ZOMG TEH SWINE FLUZ WERE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

:roll:

OP, I would have been on the phone with the principal, superintendent, etc. all the way up the chain...in a heartbeat. Emails are very easy to ignore or marginalize...you need to get up in their face for stupidity like this.

this

not this. Nothing more than people hate when you try going up the command line. You think the teacher is going to "care" about your son when they know the parent's first reaction is to go to their superior. You think a principal has the time to deal with shit like this? Teachers are still very much people & human and make mistakes.

Give it a rest. You guys always bitch and moan about hearing both sides of the story. In this instance you are hearing a 5th grade point of view.

It happens all the time that a student will act like they've done nothing wrong. Even when they've been explicitly warned, detention, 1-1 conference with teacher and then when it comes to kid calling home or a parent/teacher conference it goes something like this.

teacher: "so student, would you like to explain why we're here"
kid: "I dunno"
teacher: "what do you think you did wrong/what did we discuss"
kid: "I dunno, I didn't do anything"

teacher: "OH, REALLY"

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OP I'm curious - does your son switch classes or does he have the same teacher for everything? I highly doubt that your school is setup so that 5th graders have hour long periods (this is assuming your son was kicked out at the very beginning).

From a teacher's perspective, no offense, but I would say your kid is lying to you.

1st) the 1hr long kicked out? An hour? He would've had to go to a different class/someone else would've noticed him hanging around and questioned.

2nd) If the teacher actually thought it was swine flu then she would've sent him to the nurse so he could have been checked out. She wouldn't have just kicked him out of class. That would be the appropriate level of paranoia that's currently going around.

More than likely your kid didn't just go "achoo" he went "EVERYBODY WATCH OUT ACHOOOOOOOO."

Maybe not, everybody makes mistakes - e-mailing the teacher was the right thing to do. Give the teacher 24-48 hours to respond, if no response then call the teacher and just get his/her side of the story.

If you don't get a call back in 24-48 hrs ask to come in after school for a meeting (set it up with the receptionist).

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: SandEagle
sad times we live in now.......

yea when you email a teacher instead of talkin to them

I want a written record of it.

Sad times we live in that everyone wants to set themselves up to sue everyone.

Yeah, it's not like this is a completely unnecessary process that could use some clarification with teachers w/o involving lawyers or nothing...

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: waggy
even if the kid had a fever, runny nose etc. a hallway is nto the best place to put them. IF the teacher was really worried about the flu then she should have notified the nurse and the parents.

what the teacher did was silly and counter productive.

:thumbsup:

How about at least sending them to the school nurse... OP has several very good points.

1. Sneezing is NOT a symptom of H1N1 (it's a transmission method).
2. Sneezing is a known condition, kid has allergies.
3. 1 hour is meaningless, but I bet it is the time that teacher had with the student. Hey, let the next teacher deal with this "problem".
4. Hallway is not the correct place to put someone who you suspect is ill, hell it's probably the worse place. More students use the hallways than a classroom.
5. Didn't send the "sick" kid to the nurse.
6. Didn't inform the parents.

I bet you can come up with a couple additional failures but these are glaring.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: threeringbinder
Text

Honey is about as useful for allergies as vitamin C is for colds (in other words, it isn't).

I used to take Vitamin C at the onset of a cold and it would last about half as long as just waiting it out. I now take Vitamin C everyday and haven't had so much as the sniffles in 4 years.

 

[Gunslinger08]

The local schools have definitely drank the pig flu kool-aid. They've setup H1N1 contingency plans for shutting down schools based on local cases, created quarantine areas for potentially infected students in each school, etc. Pretty crazy how blown out of proportion this has gotten.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Mean MrMustard

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: threeringbinder
Text

Honey is about as useful for allergies as vitamin C is for colds (in other words, it isn't).

I used to take Vitamin C at the onset of a cold and it would last about half as long as just waiting it out. I now take Vitamin C everyday and haven't had so much as the sniffles in 4 years.

cool. i drink vodka every day to keep aids away. i been drinking vodka for years and have yet to get aids.