My ACA Plan

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Most healthcare plans are unaffordable these days thanks to Obamacare. I have a $2,400 deductible before mine pays anything for $106 a month. In other words, you pay for everything routine, they pay for extraordinary events that exceed your limits. But thankfully most people go through life routinely. Therefore we PAY EVERYTHING out of pocket these days. We effectively have no insurance for that.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
27,655
26,758
136
Most healthcare plans are unaffordable these days thanks to Obamacare. I have a $2,400 deductible before mine pays anything for $106 a month. In other words, you pay for everything routine, they pay for extraordinary events that exceed your limits. But thankfully most people go through life routinely. Therefore we PAY EVERYTHING out of pocket these days. We effectively have no insurance for that.

Long before the ACA I paid more than $3672 a year before insurance really kicked in and started paying. You're whining about being in a position that most people haven't been in long before the ACA was passed.

Felix I hate to break it to you but unless the Donald does something that is going to absolutely send the GOP over the edge your rates are going to go up and/or what you have to pay out of pocket is going to go way up.

To the OP's question, I'm not sure you've provided us enough info. How many are covered by this plan? Is it just you or are there other family members covered as well? Felix same goes for you, is $106 a month for you alone?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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To the OP's question, I'm not sure you've provided us enough info. How many are covered by this plan? Is it just you or are there other family members covered as well?
It's a family plan. It states this in the upper right of the page.

OP,
if that $688 is monthly and there is no employer contribution, from what you've shown, that plan is dirt cheap by modern standards. My group plan is $1225/month (employee plus employer) with higher deductibles.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Long before the ACA I paid more than $3672 a year before insurance really kicked in and started paying. You're whining about being in a position that most people haven't been in long before the ACA was passed.

Felix I hate to break it to you but unless the Donald does something that is going to absolutely send the GOP over the edge your rates are going to go up and/or what you have to pay out of pocket is going to go way up.

To the OP's question, I'm not sure you've provided us enough info. How many are covered by this plan? Is it just you or are there other family members covered as well? Felix same goes for you, is $106 a month for you alone?

Whining? I used to pay $10 a month with a max out of pocket of $1000. Yes it had gotten worse before Obamacare but after it passed forget it! It went NUTS! I only pay for myself.


No, you're supposed to understand why the premiums went up instead of blindly blaming the ACA. It's been discussed numerous times on this board.

Supposed to understand? Why don't you understand that carrying 26 year olds who are clearly not children make insurance expensive. All these stupid little requirements should be add-ons you pay for separately not make us all pay. Tell your damn 26 year old TO GET A JOB!
 
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IronWing

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Whining? I used to pay $10 a month with a max out of pocket of $1000. Yes it had gotten worse before Obamacare but after it passed forget it! It went NUTS! I only pay for myself.
Sounds like your employer shifted costs onto you. Somehow, this is the fault of the ACA.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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Most healthcare plans are unaffordable these days thanks to Obamacare. I have a $2,400 deductible before mine pays anything for $106 a month. In other words, you pay for everything routine, they pay for extraordinary events that exceed your limits. But thankfully most people go through life routinely. Therefore we PAY EVERYTHING out of pocket these days. We effectively have no insurance for that.

Your ignorance is astounding.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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Your incomplete response is ignorant.

What's incomplete about it? I'm claiming your ignorance is simply astounding.

Several people in this thread already have pointed out how you're wrong about the ACA and how the same topic has been explained in this forum (sometimes directly to you in fact) many times over.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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That's like saying "you're in the hospital for a broken neck, somehow that's the fault of the person that ran over you".
Do you believe that your plan had only cost $10/month in total? Not cost to you, but the total cost of the plan?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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That's like saying "you're in the hospital for a broken neck, somehow that's the fault of the person that ran over you".

Companies were shifting costs to employees long before the ACA. When I started working in 93 I hardly paid anything out of pocket I was paying much more than you are today LONG before the ACA was passed and that was with the same employer.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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It's a family plan. It states this in the upper right of the page.

OP,
if that $688 is monthly and there is no employer contribution, from what you've shown, that plan is dirt cheap by modern standards. My group plan is $1225/month (employee plus employer) with higher deductibles.

Thanks, I missed that.

Agree if that is his total premium then the plan is cheap for the coverage offered. We just switched our insurance to my wife's company and ours is similar to your cost with moderately higher deductibles. BTW that was still 25% lower than my employer who has aggressively shifted costs to deal with their own financial problems.
 

sactoking

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Sep 24, 2007
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On topic: What I'm seeing is a family plan for $688 per month that has a $2400 deductible and a $2400 out of pocket max. Essentially then you pay $688 per month to cap your annual medical costs at $2400, since once you meet the deductible you'll have hit the OOP max and won't pay anything. $688/month is $344 per paycheck if paid twice a month or ~$318 per paycheck if paid every two weeks. In general I'd say you have pretty good coverage based on that. I've family seen plans in the individual (non-employer sponsored) market that cost as much or more with deductibles twice as high and OOP maxes three times as high.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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So, we are not supposed to complain? Just pay? Pffft.

Of course you can complain, especially if your plan sucks.

saying that "most plans" are more expensive due to the ACA is pure FUD. Some are more expensive, many are cheaper, many have barely a significant nudge in either direction. You are simply being dishonest.

Some people get screwed, others benefit, the population within each group often shifts. Some feel they have lost rights (Even when they haven't), others actually gain rights that have fundamentally been denied them due to local or federal restrictions.

Welcome to democracy, please enjoy your ride. Bitching about is perfectly acceptable--but this works much better for everyone if you make it a point not to lie about the reality and understand that you and your tiny group of friends' experience is never going to be a reflection of the country as a whole. Walk in someone else's shoes for a day, as your lord Jesus once suggested you do.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Of course you can complain, especially if your plan sucks.

saying that "most plans" are more expensive due to the ACA is pure FUD. Some are more expensive, many are cheaper, many have barely a significant nudge in either direction. You are simply being dishonest.

Some people get screwed, others benefit, the population within each group often shifts. Some feel they have lost rights (Even when they haven't), others actually gain rights that have fundamentally been denied them due to local or federal restrictions.

Welcome to democracy, please enjoy your ride. Bitching about is perfectly acceptable--but this works much better for everyone if you make it a point not to lie about the reality and understand that you and your tiny group of friends' experience is never going to be a reflection of the country as a whole. Walk in someone else's shoes for a day, as your lord Jesus once suggested you do.

I have *yet* to *personally* meet one single person who has gotten a better deal under ACA. It was a raw deal for America. Thankfully we are going to banish Obamacare to the land of wind and ghosts; and 26 year olds will be employed building a wall with Mexico so we can drop them off their parents plans.

Mark my words zinfamous - we will call Trumpcare the greatest thing since sliced bread!
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
12,759
2,533
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Most healthcare plans are unaffordable these days thanks to Obamacare. I have a $2,400 deductible before mine pays anything for $106 a month. In other words, you pay for everything routine, they pay for extraordinary events that exceed your limits. But thankfully most people go through life routinely. Therefore we PAY EVERYTHING out of pocket these days. We effectively have no insurance for that.

You obviously never bought your own health insurance prior to the ACA. The figures you quote are damn good before or after ACA, and prior to ACA you would have had pre-existing exclusions as well (I had preexisting exclusions for a normal tonsillectomy I have FIFTY years earlier, and my wife had a preexisting condition exclusion because her father (a smoker) died of heart disease.

Speak of not what you don't really understand. I do understand your complaint about high deductibles (mine currently is $15k)-national health insurance would go a long way towards fixing that.
 

readymix

Senior member
Jan 3, 2007
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$688 / month / $1200 oop /solo/ self employed

What I used tp pay, up from $325 / month in 2000

trump's cheaper and better? I'm skeptical

 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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The last health care plan I had with my employer had me paying $55 per week so with 52 weeks in the year it came to a grand total of $2,860 annually.
 
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Whining? I used to pay $10 a month with a max out of pocket of $1000. Yes it had gotten worse before Obamacare but after it passed forget it! It went NUTS! I only pay for myself.
And what did it actually cover? What was the lifetime payout limit? Would it cover doctors in the hospital or would it just cover the hospitalization itself? Would they drop you at the blink of an eye when you started getting expensive treatments? If you had a bs pre-existing condition, would it make it impossible to find new insurance? Did you get this through an employer or individually?

People talk about this golden age of insurance that existed pre-ACA. Y'all must be drinking the same crap Trump is to believe that nonsense.

Also, what's wrong with the higher deductibles? I thought Republicans wanted people to have more "skin in the game".
 
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