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MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: luvly
I would say try to work things out. But it seems like she's a slutty woman. It's best to end it now that there isn't any kids. Maybe it would have been better if he had found out as of the date it all began. Now she seems sucked in it, even if her original intent was different.

"Now I wish I didn't tell you guys this. I could drive to the Boston meet, but now I messed that up. Maybe I'll delete this and make another account. Can I do that?"

Don't be silly, Kiyup! What makes you want to do that? Am I missing something? Why can't you drive to the Boston meeting?



despite the fact that i dont like luvly because for whatever reason she hates me...i agree with her

why should you delete your account? some guys come and complain about how they cant get it up or that a girl touched them. you have a legit problem.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: GirlFriday
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: GirlFriday
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Isla

That's ok. There isn't a thing that any of them can say that could hurt me.

If just one person gets what I am trying to say, it will be worth it.

I think I understand what you are trying to say, but I'd equal looking at porn to fantasizing in general, while baring it all for someone else to masturbate to is something quite different in my opinion.

Why? Both are being disloyal sexually, if you are wanking it to a strange woman instead of going to bed with your wife, its really the same thing to me. Don't get me wrong, I think that woman was totally wrong to do what she did. But I also think men who sit up and would rather look at porn instead of being with the women they love are not being loyal either. Looking at it together, or when your wife is out of town, or not around is one thing. But when she is there, and you could be with her but instead choose a magazine, then that is just as bad, whether its an image, or a movie, or a webcam, the disloyalty is there in their heart.



I disagree and go even further with the thought that if more women actually sat down and did a little movie viewing with their men there might be fewer guys sitting in their dens on their computers alone
while their wives sleep alone and overall a whole lot less "disloyalty" going on.
and overall less "disloyalty" going on.

I said that watching it together was not an issue, like i said, wanking it to a strange woman instead of choosing to go to bed with your wife is. I am talking about men that don't give their women that option, and instead just choose the porn over the wife/girlfriend.



Ah yes, I was married to one of those,only he prefered real life affairs. I still can't understand it,if you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ? My self-esteem took a massive beating over the years on that one.The question still mystifies me to this day as to why on earth he did it. Looks aren't everything but I have no desire to be with somebody who thinks he's settling for second best by being with me either.
 

bizmark

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ok, after reading this whole thing, I feel entitled to a little bit of postcount++

although I could have sworn I posted in this thread earlier
 

MichaelD

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Kiyup,

I know how you feel about "damn, I shouldn't have posted this crap." I have said the same thing myself....oh, about 1,332 times, here in OT.


Don't feel badly; it's good for the soul to let the bad smoke out of your head....makes you feel lighter, doesn't it? It's OK>>>>>there's lots of opinions out there...and opinions are like @ssholes; everybody's got one and nobody thinks theirs smells like sh@t.

Your brother will hopefully work this out to the best of his ability. I have been guilty of both cutting off my nose to spite my face and kicking myself in the teeth. I hope he makes the right decision.

I didn't read every single post in thsi thread, but from what I have read, I understand that he has cheated too. It's way past the time for counseling. That's just paying some idiot w/a diploma $200 an hour for the next month to finally hear him say "I think you two have irreconcileable differences!" ReallY? No sh2t-!!!!

Forget all this armchair psychobabble about whats worse: masturbating with a letter from a dude while the dude watches on a webcam vs. going to a titty bar and getting a BJ from a lapdancer...it's all BS. They need to get a divorce. The damage is done. Period.

No kids=quick and clean divorce.
 

peter584

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Some people in this thread need therapy

Yes, if that offends you, I was probably refering to you
 

Mrburns2007

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Originally posted by: Isla
Maybe I should clarify here.

A long time ago, my husband wouldn't come to bed with me. He would stay up until I fell asleep and then whack off to porn on the Internet. And sex betwen us was HIDEOUS. He wanted his penis to be a magic wand and for me to be under his amazing spell, swooning over the sheer gloriousness of his mightiness. Right.

So, I tolerated it (not much else I could do unless I wanted to get into a huge fight, and I was too beaten down already) and I bought myself a vibrator (a non phallic looking one... it's a 'massager'.)

I didn't feel any need to hide it so I left it around. And one day, he confronted me. Called me all kinds of horrible things and BROKE the massager over his leg. Plastic went flying everywhere. I thought he was going to hit me (it wouldn't have been the first time.).

So I said,

"That's nice. I can't break your hand, now can I?" For the rest of my life I will wish that I had a camera to catch the expression on his face. He went from bloody rage to shame in a heartbeat.

The point is, he thought I was being a slut and unforgivable by simply masturbating... when the TRUTH is, he was masturbating to porn! And making my life miserable by insisting I should have orgasms by penile penetration alone!

What he was attacking in ME was his own hatred of himself.

Ever since then, I am very sensitive to the fact that people will often condemn other who are 'guilty' of the same things they feel quilty for themselves.... and that includes me.



You Go Girl............spank away
 

imported_Papi

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There is always two sides to every story. Maybe instead of leaving her (unless this was decided between the two of them) he should listen to her as to why she did it. Perhaps she's not getting something out of the relationship. It could be something so minor yet damaging to their marriage.

I'd say at least almost every marriage (not all) one of the partners contemplates adultery. In one form or another. Some times its the rush of doing something that is considered "wrong". Sometimes its because of the dangers of getting caught. Regardless of the "Why" the ultimate underlying reason as to why is probably there is a problem one of the partners have with the relationship but isn't admitting to it. (if that makes sense)

Maybe there is no problem at all in their relationship, but she still feels like she's wants more. As selfish as that is its a want/need and as a human she has that right, as does men. She didn't cheat. She didn't have some guys dick in her, she was camming! If she was making money doing it (there are girls that do this) would he be complaining. Tell your brother to suck it up.
 

Red Dawn

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you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ?
Because Gina's turn into Italian Grandmothers and tall Green Eyed Redheads only get sexier with age?
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
obviously she is no longer interested in your brother so he should hand over half his stuff and find a new wife...


NOT! it doesnt seem that serious to me, except the letters mean creepy 41 year old bald overweight men know where she lives. go see a marriage counselor, they're both adults right?

And the trust is totally gone from his side. What kind of relationship will they still have? Unless both people are committed to a marriage it will not last. You can stay legally married 'for the kids' or whatever other weak reason, but there is no bond between you, and neither will be happy with it. If they get divorced she can go on selling her body on the internet, and he can get a real wife.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ?
Because Gina's turn into Italian Grandmothers and tall Green Eyed Redheads only get sexier with age?

there's only one possible response to this
 
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ?
Because Gina's turn into Italian Grandmothers and tall Green Eyed Redheads only get sexier with age?

there's only one possible response to this

Would that response be in pictorial format? (j/k)

I don't even remember seeing that comment the first time around, and I'm sure as hell not going to reread this whole damn thread to find it. Who was the fool who spouted that blasphemy?

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why should you delete your account? some guys come and complain about how they cant get it up or that a girl touched them. you have a legit problem.
Exactly. This is acceptable because it's (a) a legit relationship problem, and (b) it's not you. Believe me, I'd much rather see serious threads rather than that frickin "OMG SHE TOUCHED ME !!!!! *UPDATE* SHE SAID HI!!!!!!11" teeny-bopping high-school drama that is all too frequently posted.

- M4H
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ?
Because Gina's turn into Italian Grandmothers and tall Green Eyed Redheads only get sexier with age?

there's only one possible response to this

Would that response be in pictorial format? (j/k)

I don't even remember seeing that comment the first time around, and I'm sure as hell not going to reread this whole damn thread to find it. Who was the fool who spouted that blasphemy?

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
why should you delete your account? some guys come and complain about how they cant get it up or that a girl touched them. you have a legit problem.
Exactly. This is acceptable because it's (a) a legit relationship problem, and (b) it's not you. Believe me, I'd much rather see serious threads rather than that frickin "OMG SHE TOUCHED ME !!!!! *UPDATE* SHE SAID HI!!!!!!11" teeny-bopping high-school drama that is all too frequently posted.

- M4H



I agree totally, this is probably one of the most mature discussions concerning relationship issues that I've seen here in quite sometime. I don't agree with everything I've seen posted here but I certainly do respect and feel closer to those who chose to disclose a bit of themselves and their feelings here.It is stuff like this that helps to make this forum a community
 

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Originally posted by: yayo
There is always two sides to every story. Maybe instead of leaving her (unless this was decided between the two of them) he should listen to her as to why she did it. Perhaps she's not getting something out of the relationship. It could be something so minor yet damaging to their marriage.

I'd say at least almost every marriage (not all) one of the partners contemplates adultery. In one form or another. Some times its the rush of doing something that is considered "wrong". Sometimes its because of the dangers of getting caught. Regardless of the "Why" the ultimate underlying reason as to why is probably there is a problem one of the partners have with the relationship but isn't admitting to it. (if that makes sense)

Maybe there is no problem at all in their relationship, but she still feels like she's wants more. As selfish as that is its a want/need and as a human she has that right, as does men. She didn't cheat. She didn't have some guys dick in her, she was camming! If she was making money doing it (there are girls that do this) would he be complaining. Tell your brother to suck it up.
Now that's some great insight into the psyche of many married people who are entertaining thoughts of infidelity or even acted upon them. It's also why I couldn't react so harshly to my wifey's "camming" under like circumstances, as I believe that communicating our deepest, most intimate thoughts and feelings, regardless of the effect, either positive or negative, they may have on our mates is the only way to truly be completely intimate with them. When you put that much trust and faith in your mate and hold nothing back, and they do the same for you, with love, understanding, and time, your bond will become so strong that nothing on this earth can break it! I say that from personal experience
 

Yeeny

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe



Ah yes, I was married to one of those,only he prefered real life affairs. I still can't understand it,if you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ? My self-esteem took a massive beating over the years on that one.The question still mystifies me to this day as to why on earth he did it. Looks aren't everything but I have no desire to be with somebody who thinks he's settling for second best by being with me either.

Yes, but look who ended up luckier and happier in the end.
 
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I still can't understand it,if you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ? My self-esteem took a massive beating over the years on that one.The question still mystifies me to this day as to why on earth he did it.

" ... and in a recent study of the top five methods used to commit suicide, 'Cheating on a redhead' has risen to the number three slot this week, after yet another philandering asshole was found in a trash bag at the bottom of the river. Police say the man was severly beatenn with an ATX power supply and subsequently hog-tied with FireWire and USB 2.0 cables.

And in other news, if you want reliable data cables, Belkin is your number one choice for reliability.

God damnit, Bill, you're shallow. I mean, who puts an ad in the middle of TV newscasting? That's the kind of thing Rogers would do. For all your digital cable needs, dial 1-800-4ROGERS."

- M4H
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I still can't understand it,if you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ? My self-esteem took a massive beating over the years on that one.The question still mystifies me to this day as to why on earth he did it.

" ... and in a recent study of the top five methods used to commit suicide, 'Cheating on a redhead' has risen to the number three slot this week, after yet another philandering asshole was found in a trash bag at the bottom of the river. Police say the man was severly beatenn with an ATX power supply and subsequently hog-tied with FireWire and USB 2.0 cables.

And in other news, if you want reliable data cables, Belkin is your number one choice for reliability.

God damnit, Bill, you're shallow. I mean, who puts an ad in the middle of TV newscasting? That's the kind of thing Rogers would do. For all your digital cable needs, dial 1-800-4ROGERS."

- M4H


Actually for all his joking that he's worth more to me dead than alive,(hehehe told him though he was already dead)the ex has gorren rather civil and easy to deal with over the years.Hahaha,I build and support his computers,he better be civil
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: GirlFriday
Originally posted by: Geekbabe



Ah yes, I was married to one of those,only he prefered real life affairs. I still can't understand it,if you want a short brown eyed italian brunette with big tits why on earth do you marry a tall,scrawny,green eyed, red haired irish girl ? My self-esteem took a massive beating over the years on that one.The question still mystifies me to this day as to why on earth he did it. Looks aren't everything but I have no desire to be with somebody who thinks he's settling for second best by being with me either.

Yes, but look who ended up luckier and happier in the end.


As usual you talk good sense Colleen ! I am very happy
 

SoylentGreen

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Wow! How deep does this rabbit hole go......

She is out of the house and my brother nor anyone else knows where she is. He thinks she went to at least one of the internet boyfriends houses.
Anyway, their computer has XP and my brother is almost completely computer illiterate. So I logged in, found the paltalk app. Lo and behold she left her password remembered so we logged in.
A few minutes and she was getting pm's from a couple of people. Accepted a couple and they were all guys of course, some of them playing with their roosters. It pretty much went that they asked her by name when she's gonna cam on so they can "come together" and what my brother did was turn on the cam give them the finger and moon them. It was funny stuff some of the guys looked into the camera with a more than suprised look on their face. More stuff happened but that was the best part.
It's funny how many women are sitting in their bras and the buff on their cam. Some "playing" along. So we did that for awhile but found it quite boring but funny at the same time.
Oh well. What did I say? Never getting married?
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Kiyup
Wow! How deep does this rabbit hole go......

She is out of the house and my brother nor anyone else knows where she is. He thinks she went to at least one of the internet boyfriends houses.
Anyway, their computer has XP and my brother is almost completely computer illiterate. So I logged in, found the paltalk app. Lo and behold she left her password remembered so we logged in.
A few minutes and she was getting pm's from a couple of people. Accepted a couple and they were all guys of course, some of them playing with their roosters. It pretty much went that they asked her by name when she's gonna cam on so they can "come together" and what my brother did was turn on the cam give them the finger and moon them. It was funny stuff some of the guys looked into the camera with a more than suprised look on their face. More stuff happened but that was the best part.
It's funny how many women are sitting in their bras and the buff on their cam. Some "playing" along. So we did that for awhile but found it quite boring but funny at the same time.
Oh well. What did I say? Never getting married?
Wow man she really did have a severe problem then. She was on it tooo much!

 

Kenji4861

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
Originally posted by: Kiyup
He got out of work early last week and she was camming. She said it's not cheating and that she'd never go meet someone for real.
He asked me and other people for their opinions and if he should forgive her.
I won't look at her the same that's for sure.

that's the stupidest excuse i've ever heard
so lame

Lame or not, she's probably telling the truth. It takes someone with a ton of gull to cheat on their partner, let alone their husband. On the other hand, something like this I don't think can be viewed as cheating. Wrong, yes. Cheating, not really. But, I would definitely password protect the internet and not let her access it if I was her husband. Divorce? That is harsh for this in my opinion.


Hmm... the word "cheating" can have depths. In her mind, she's fantasizing to meet other (many) men. I think that's cheating.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Kenji4861
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
Originally posted by: Kiyup
He got out of work early last week and she was camming. She said it's not cheating and that she'd never go meet someone for real.
He asked me and other people for their opinions and if he should forgive her.
I won't look at her the same that's for sure.

that's the stupidest excuse i've ever heard
so lame

Lame or not, she's probably telling the truth. It takes someone with a ton of gull to cheat on their partner, let alone their husband. On the other hand, something like this I don't think can be viewed as cheating. Wrong, yes. Cheating, not really. But, I would definitely password protect the internet and not let her access it if I was her husband. Divorce? That is harsh for this in my opinion.


Hmm... the word "cheating" can have depths. In her mind, she's fantasizing to meet other (many) men. I think that's cheating.


Having a fantasy in your mind is one thing and is not cheating, one cannot help the thoughts that come unbidden into their minds.,web camming,interacting with all sorts of real people is another and is cheating imho.

Ever been married to somebody who made it quite clear that you were the exact opposite of what they viewed as their ideal physical type? well I have and if I didn't have fantasy I would have been on news at 11 before the marriage ended.
 
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So is this thread going to be used in court against her?

11 o'clock news? I wouldn't think you'd have waited that long to "let him know how you felt" (read - beat to death with blunt instrument)

After that latest update ... omfg. That's insane ... beyond insane, I don't think I have words.
Go hang out with your brother ... he's going to need support. Make sure he doesn't do anything stupid in the wake of this.

- M4H
 
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