That thing must have chugged gas like there's no tomorrow. A typical big truck has 12-18 manual gears.
Big rigs have been available with automatics for a long time. We had them in the military in the early 1990's. 5 speed automatics, actually ten speeds.
So the reason automatic transmissions require a special after market cooler to prevent them from melting is because the tranny is being attacked by radical islamic anti-transmission terrorists. Got it. There's no way the simplest explanation (excessive heat) is the correct one.
The 500 pound difference from a corolla to a camry is a weight increase of 18.5%. On top of that, the camry has a 2.4L engine instead of a 1.8L engine which would be a displacement increase of 33%. So after adding 18.5% more weight and increasing the engine size by 33%, it only drops the gas mileage by less than 6%. In the OP, the car is burning 25% more gas, and you're trying to tell me it's caused by added weight? How many tons of weight do you think is in the trunk?
An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2 percent.
www.fueleconomy.gov
So the reason automatic transmissions require a special after market cooler to prevent them from melting is because the tranny is being attacked by radical islamic anti-transmission terrorists. Got it. There's no way the simplest explanation (excessive heat) is the correct one.
Nope. I said I drive around in top gear and ATG said that was wrong. If you're not in top gear, which gear do you think the car is in? The gears in a corolla are listed here. Gear 4 is 0.892 while gear 3 is 1.296. If the car is gently cruising at 1800rpm, dropping out of the top gear would change it to 1800 * 1.296 / 0.892 = 2615rpm. Understandably, doing that drops gas mileage by a lot, and this is what ATG is saying should be done.
Do you guys always drive around at 2600rpm? My car would drink more gas than an M1 tank if I drove around like that all the time.
That thing must have chugged gas like there's no tomorrow. A typical big truck has 12-18 manual gears.
Driving a manual was way simpler. Just put er in a high gear and floor it. If it chugs, the gear is too high. If it jerks, the gear is too low. Simple as pie. Automatics..... complicated as figuring out how not to melt the torque converter D:
I don't know man. That Honda Civic was rock solid and that's how I drove it the whole time. Never had performance issues. Never has gas mileage issues. Never had mechanical problems.How can it be complicated? IT REQUIRES ZERO USER INPUT! If you have trouble using automatics then there is seriously something wrong with the way you drive. It sounds like you don't even understand the concept of manuals....
I don't know man. That Honda Civic was rock solid and that's how I drove it the whole time. Never had performance issues. Never has gas mileage issues. Never had mechanical problems.
If it turns out this car is majorly fucked, I'll probably trade it into the Subaru dealership and get an Impreza. Hopefully the next owner knows how to drive an automatic and will be happy with their new-ish corolla
I don't know man. That Honda Civic was rock solid and that's how I drove it the whole time. Never had performance issues. Never has gas mileage issues. Never had mechanical problems.
If it turns out this car is majorly fucked, I'll probably trade it into the Subaru dealership and get an Impreza. Hopefully the next owner knows how to drive an automatic and will be happy with their new-ish corolla
Good luck, and I hope we won't see a post like "My POS Impreza is officially broken"
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...g-problem.html
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I have had this problem since day one. My tranny hunts on most inclines when I have the cruise control set and going at 70-75mph. The shift frequency is fast....it would start by shifting down to 4, then back to 5 without delay, then back to 4. On a small hill lasting no more than 30 seconds, my tranny would shift like 15 times.
Hey that sounds like Shawn's car. If I didn't know better, I'd say that all automatics drive like this and burning the ATF as well as the clutches is part of the game.
I called it. Fleabag2, CONFIRMED.
Good luck, and I hope we won't see a post like "My POS Impreza is officially broken"
That's exactly why I won't get the automaticHe already posted a link to a crappy Outback transmission...
Did you even read the thread? That's exactly why my Corolla is broken. I kept the car in drive, it didn't know wtf gear it's supposed to be in, so it changes gears nonstop. Now the check engine light is on and it's having trouble engaging second gear.To the OP....quit trying to outhink the car. You're in a losing battle. The car's obviously got the better brain, why not let it do its thing?
Take a trip to Alaska or Canada. Your prius will get stuck in 1" of snow and you'll die waiting for someone to come dig you out.This is the same guy that can't drive a FWD or RWD and says anyone that drives those are bound to die in a crash.
i must be missing the backstory here... aside from him not towing a uhaul with his corolla, how did the OP claim to drive his car? would he keep it in L or 2 till redline or something then move it up to D?
on the bright side, if you didnt abuse your vehicle you can get it serviced under warranty i guess
A)claims to drive it normally, but it shifts constantly
b)can't accelerate up hills, at least not enough to pass anything
c)downshifts so hard drinks are spilled
d)wants to lock it in top gear, all the time
e)locks manuals in top gear, floors it..everywhere
f)has a couple hundred pounds in the rear
g)often drives with 4-5 people in it + 200lbs of stuff in the trunk, wonders why it won't accelerate :hmm:
I'm probably missing some things, but yeah that's the gist of it right now.
is he driving an AT or MT?
if the AT is downshifting on itself so hard that drinks are spilled then it seems like a faulty transmission on that vehicle. with a problem that blaring every car review would it on that alone.
Anywho, i just think the OP just needs something to bitch about.
most AT's are just fine on modern vehicles, at least on all the cars i've driven.
True that it's a slow work day, but none of the stuff I post is made up. I really do own a crayola, I did own a civic, the civic was a fine car but it was t-boned, corolla is a fine car too but it's broken right now. Apparently I was loading the vehicle past GVWR this whole time because I regularly ride around with 4 or 5 people in the car, but GVWR only allows for 1000lbs of people+goods. Much of the driving in my city is up hills (cities centered around rivers are usually hilly), so the constant gear hunting + overloading is doing a number on the transmission. Solution is to either buy a better vehicle or stop bathing in hopes that fewer people are willing to ride in my car. I keep comparing it to the Civic because the two cars are often directly compared and because I treated that car even more harsh than I treat this one but it still worked 100% until it was written off in an accident.AT in this vehicle, which he makes known in most threads that his manual civic he owned before was 'perfect' but automatics = worst thing on earth, especially if it has fewer than 5 gears.