My country just got bombed for the Nth time this year....

[Braznor]

Originally posted by: neodyn55

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron! The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse. I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings. Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Who peed in your cheerios? Maybe you prefer the carnage of the 70s / 80s / early 90s with communal riots, a crap economy and 'goonda-raj'? I'm guessing, thru your statements, that WOULD be your preference over a prosperous India ...

wtg grampa Braznor, you were born a few centuries too late - just keep your twisted views away from the youth who actually have a shot at making India a better country instead of whining about everything

QFT. It's at the best it's ever been since independence.

Is economy the only parameter for a nation so precariously balanced in a very dangerous part of the world?


Can you not see the rot that is present at the heart of the system?

 

[sunzt]

Only 1 option. Invade. Didn't the US teach you anything?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron!

The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse.

I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings.

Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Explain. What has India done to fall on such disgrace?

They have embraced and took American jobs, experienced huge growth doing it so what is the problem?

Also many have immigrated legally into American culture here.

So what are these bombings about?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: neodyn55

It's a huge mess.

There's always been tension between the Hindu and Muslim communities, ever since the Mughal conquest back in the 11th century or so.

Then the Brits made it worse by flaming up old tensions with their 'Divide and Conquer' policies

The only way to solve this is engage the Muslim community in India.

Luckily, as the edict issued by the Deobandis (one of the more radical islamic schools) denouncing terrorism proves, it may be easier to get than some realize.

So India has the same problems as Middle East like with Jerusalem Vs Palestine etc?

I blame this whole global economy thing.

Keep all the children in separate sand boxes, end of problem.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: sunzt
Only 1 option. Invade. Didn't the US teach you anything?

:laugh:

 

[Braznor]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron!

The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse.

I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings.

Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Explain. What has India done to fall on such disgrace?

They have embraced and took American jobs, experienced huge growth doing it so what is the problem?

Also many have immigrated legally into American culture here.

So what are these bombings about?

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

 

[neodyn55]

N+1

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07...d/asia/27india.html?hp

 

[Lemon law]

Please believe me, Braznor, when I say I derive no sense of joy in posting this just in news from yahoo news. Its seems that Ahmedabad was hit by a similar wave of bombings.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...XChVkgqMb3K3N.8l.s0NUE

And I somewhat accept Braznor's explanations at face value. And also think the demonizing either India or the OP does the world zero good.

The Muslim Hindu split, what Gandhi called the two eyes of India does, drive much of this terrorism. And while India is one of the worlds oldest countries, it is also one of the newest, struggling to remake itself as the entire region modernizes at a breakneck speed. India has somewhat bet its future on educating its best and brightest in the hopes they will later be able to lift all from oppressive poverty.

And sooner or later India will come into sharper competition with an even larger China to the East and North.

Which is why I at least, see it somewhat imperative for India to resolve its disputes with Pakistan. And therein lies the rub, Muslim influence and a religious majority is not accurately reflected by the actual Western border of India. But still, coming to some final peaceful resolution with Pakistan regarding the disputed Kashmir region would do much to secure its Western border, greatly reduce terrorism, and would free India up to concentrate on higher priorities. And it would do much to reduce tensions and problems in Pakistan as well. Its very possible that much of India's future energy needs will be met by natural gas pipelines originating in Iran, and then going through both Afghanistan and Pakistan. And as long as instability and hostilities
threaten such a pipeline, it can't be relied on by India.

And its true for any country, united it can stand, divided it may fall.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Braznor

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

Fall to who?

You think the U.S. would allow that?

 

[The Green Bean]

We Pakistanis feel your pain. We've been suffering for years. As long as everyone in this region keeps fighting amongst themselves this problem is not going to go away. I also think Braznor puts it right. India faces huge problems; perhaps greater than those facing us today. And I also think it's a western conspiracy to blame muslims for any think that kills. How many Iraqis and Afghans did you kill today?

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

Fall to who?

You think the U.S. would allow that?

I think my sarcasm meter is broken. Has the USA done anything good in terms of world politics and peace in the last decade? Two illegal wars and constant threats of bombing followed my instability and exporting that instability from its occupied countries across the borders; Turkey and Pakistan to name two. The only reason India is of any value to the west is because it is still based on western principals and is a check against China.

Edit: I also think if Indians really cared for themselves they would have used a good chunk of the recent boom to uplift the extremely poor classes. It's unbelievable to see the poverty there.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

Fall to who?

You think the U.S. would allow that?

Has the USA done anything good in terms of world politics and peace in the last decade?

Has Pakistan done anything good for the world EVER?

 

[Dari]

Braznor needs to get out more. India is highly respected in the Arab world, which is 99% Muslim. The problems between Muslims and Hindus in India is an issue between the same people with different creeds. It is an Indian problem and I'm willing to bet it can be resolved peacefully as India modernizes, as Vonkhan alludes to.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: neodyn55

Originally posted by: magomago
I'm trying to figure out your 'impeccable' logic right here. Muslim minority (allegedly? Although India keeps blaming Pakistan, and if it is indeed Pakistan then this isn't a religious conflict, its a political one) trying to convert all of Indian society to Islam through fear by bombing random cities. And you somehow make it seem as if this Muslim Minority that exists in India supports these guys, or is at least is majorly sympathetic to their actions, because of the government;s 'fears of hurting minority sensibilities'


Am I getting this right?

Yet so far...I seee....no results. I also don't see these groups running out claiming they did it.

edit:

I'm sorry for the victims btw..I read this earlier on BBC and thought that it was such a horrible thing

The only way to solve this is engage the Muslim community in India.

Luckily, as the edict issued by the Deobandis (one of the more radical islamic schools) denouncing terrorism proves, it may be easier to get than some realize.

There is a Muslim Doctrine of Taqiya which says a Muslim may tell any lie when they are threatened. In short, a Muslim can lie as a holy duty to deceive and gain an advantage over the unbeliever. It was sanctioned by the prophet Muhammad when he said; ?he who keeps secrets shall soon attain his objectives.?

This unfortunately means that edict may not mean a damn thing.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

Fall to who?

You think the U.S. would allow that?

Has the USA done anything good in terms of world politics and peace in the last decade?

Has Pakistan done anything good for the world EVER?

:laugh:

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
I also think it's a western conspiracy to blame muslims for any think that kills.

offfffffffff course you do. :roll:

How many Taliban and AQ members did you kill today?

fixed...

answer: not nearly enough.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
How many Iraqis and Afghans did you kill today?

Originally posted by: palehorse

How many Taliban and AQ members did you kill today?

fixed...

answer: not nearly enough.

Are you implying that Iraqis and Afghans = Taliban and AQ? Way to go to justify your presence in Afghanistan and Iraq. You are one twisted person. What are you? A hired mercenary?

With each passing day, Lemon Law's arguments make much more sense than your repeated failures and saber rattling. It's high time to bring the troops back and let the Iraqis and Afghanis fend for themselves.

On topic... It is sad to see the loss of life in India. My condolences for the families of those who lost their lives.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: firewall

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
How many Iraqis and Afghans did you kill today?

Originally posted by: palehorse

How many Taliban and AQ members did you kill today?

fixed...

answer: not nearly enough.

Are you implying that Iraqis and Afghans = Taliban and AQ? Way to go to justify your presence in Afghanistan and Iraq. You are one twisted person. What are you? A hired mercenary?

How on earth did you think palehorse was implying all Iraqi's and Afghanis are Taliban and AQ? Im pretty sure he was trying to say Green Bean's sig is the one implying we go around killing innocent Iraqi's and Afghanis just for the hell of it, and Palehorse was clarifying that we target Taliban and AQ.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: firewall

With each passing day, Lemon Law's arguments make much more sense

This explains alot :laugh:

 

[kalster]

i cant describe how much anger and pain I have in me right now, I was born and brought up in Ahmedabad. The cowards who did this also planted bombs in the ERs of the hospitals in Ahmedabad. Its pretty pathetic that America does not put any pressure on the beloved patriot's to take care of the rogue elements in the ISI (or most ISI) who are sponsoring this

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron!

The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse.

I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings.

Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Explain. What has India done to fall on such disgrace?

They have embraced and took American jobs, experienced huge growth doing it so what is the problem?

Also many have immigrated legally into American culture here.

So what are these bombings about?

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

My sympathy to India, but this is a materialistic world and no country is gonna help take care of India's problem if it doesn't benefit those countries. The problem with India is the poverty, the class division and only Indian can solve those problems themselves. Rather then pointing fingers at the apathy of other countries, why not look at yourself, your countrymen and your politicians and ask what have you done to solve your own problems.

 

[Braznor]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron!

The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse.

I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings.

Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Explain. What has India done to fall on such disgrace?

They have embraced and took American jobs, experienced huge growth doing it so what is the problem?

Also many have immigrated legally into American culture here.

So what are these bombings about?

There are many problems in India. Security for instance, we have plenty of bombings going on with Maoists, Marxist, and Islamic insurgency everywhere. As a bonus, we have Pakistan and China as neighbors. The next problem is corruption causing the entire system to become rotten to the core.

The worse thing about India is nobody cares so long its not them. Its impossible to control a nation of one billion people The government repealed all terror laws in the holy name of minority appeasement. the bombings goon because it is impossible to control a nation of one billion people. with so many diverse traditions and of course, poverty.

Its all bound to fall someday and mark my words, it shall be because of apathy.

My sympathy to India, but this is a materialistic world and no country is gonna help take care of India's problem if it doesn't benefit those countries. The problem with India is the poverty, the class division and only Indian can solve those problems themselves. Rather then pointing fingers at the apathy of other countries, why not look at yourself, your countrymen and your politicians and ask what have you done to solve your own problems.

I meant the apathy of other Indians.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Braznor, you're an embarrassment to all Indians.

Considering the state India is right now, its a compliment to be embarrassment to all Indians, moron! The wretched state of India has lost any form of meaning in the past half decade or so.

Take it from me, kid, India as a country is now a rotten corpse. I can do nothing, India cannot do to embarrass itself anymore.

By they way, you seem more concerned about me than the bombings. Just another patriotic Indian, I guess. :roll:

Who peed in your cheerios? Maybe you prefer the carnage of the 70s / 80s / early 90s with communal riots, a crap economy and 'goonda-raj'? I'm guessing, thru your statements, that WOULD be your preference over a prosperous India ...

wtg grampa Braznor, you were born a few centuries too late - just keep your twisted views away from the youth who actually have a shot at making India a better country instead of whining about everything

Yeah, It's all my fault, isn't it? I mean the terrorist bombings, the attacks, its all my fault and of people like me? :roll:

Guess what, India's problem is not prosperity anymore. India's problem is a complete lack of foresight in matters of security and statecraft. There is nothing called India anymore, except a queer medley of robbers, crooks and charlatans all out to make a quick buck at the cost of the people.

But you sit safely abroad and keep blaming me for all its problems, okay?

Hey, reminds me of the USA.

 

[cirrrocco]

45 people dead now..and 2 more car bombs found..

 

[piasabird]

This thread should be locked, because there is no topic that I can tell??