My daughter was hurt in preschool

[George P Burdell]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Kids will be kids

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: WA261

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Riase your kids instead of having someone else do it?

Ummm.....It is preschool, not daycare. You have no idea what your talking about. It is a form of education for young children which serves as a transition from home to the commencement of more formal schooling

oh man good point.

preschool did wonders for my daughter. she is so far advanced compared to others in her kindergarden class.

she took a reading test and she is at a 2.2 reading level (2nd grade). i put some of that on the fact they started in preschool and the wife and I work nightly with her (read a book a night).

when my son gets 3 (depends on how mature he is) we will put him in also. its worht the $70 a month (2 days a week for 4 hours a day)

 

[heathertre]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

but let's face it....daycare workers are about as bright as McDonald's burger flippers. This is a known hazard, unfortunately.

Excuse me? I have a bachelors degree in Early Childhood (birth to age 8). I teach at a preschool and I love my job. Not everyone who works in daycares or preschools is a brainless twit. I teach at a preschool because I have wanted to for as long as I can remember. Preschools and daycares exist because parents put their jobs as a priority over their children and let someone else raise them. If you people don't have respect for the people who take care of your children, maybe you should stay home with them. And have you ever thought about how hard it is for one person to watch 10 kids during a day (or 20 kids with another teacher with you)? We don't see everything that happens. It's impossible to watch all those kids at once. So think about what you say about the people who take care of your children. We are an important part of their lives. Some people may not be trained to be teachers and are only working there because they need the money, but we're not all stupid!

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Beev
Have her point the kid out. Go up to him and squat down like you're trying to "teach him the right thing to do" and then in a very casual tone tell him that if he ever does anything like that again you will kill both of his parents. That will scare the little bastard so bad he'll be shitting bricks for years.

:laugh: Winnar!

 

[mozirry]

considering the trustworthiness of 3 year olds, the legitimacy of her accusation is just as sound if someone said she did it to her own face.

I'm not saying to ignore negligence, but if indeed the day care was negligent and the direct cause of your daughter getting her face scratched, then you should act because what if this happens to someone else's child?

If they were not proximate cause, then see if you can get disciplinary action to the one who allegedly scratched your daughter or to at least ensure close supervision.

So if this happens down the road again by the same student, they can expel or punish, etc. to start the system.


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[RichardE]

Originally posted by: heathertre

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

but let's face it....daycare workers are about as bright as McDonald's burger flippers. This is a known hazard, unfortunately.

Excuse me? I have a bachelors degree in Early Childhood (birth to age 8). I teach at a preschool and I love my job. Not everyone who works in daycares or preschools is a brainless twit. I teach at a preschool because I have wanted to for as long as I can remember. Preschools and daycares exist because parents put their jobs as a priority over their children and let someone else raise them. If you people don't have respect for the people who take care of your children, maybe you should stay home with them. And have you ever thought about how hard it is for one person to watch 10 kids during a day (or 20 kids with another teacher with you)? We don't see everything that happens. It's impossible to watch all those kids at once. So think about what you say about the people who take care of your children. We are an important part of their lives. Some people may not be trained to be teachers and are only working there because they need the money, but we're not all stupid!

You don't realize that all the parents that cannot be bothered to raise there kids can obviously do it better than you :roll:

Either way, my cousin just graduated with that and loves her job too, hard work some days :beer:

 

[Mr Smiley]

When I was in kindergarten, I was running around the room when I tripped and fell. My tooth scratched this girls knee and the teacher made me go to the principles office. She called my mom and made her come pick me up. They didn't want me to return to school for a few days. I told my mom what happened and she complained to the school. It wasn't like I purposely tripped onto the girls knee. They eventually let me back in though.
Just saying these things do happen...

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: heathertre

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

but let's face it....daycare workers are about as bright as McDonald's burger flippers. This is a known hazard, unfortunately.

Excuse me? I have a bachelors degree in Early Childhood (birth to age 8). I teach at a preschool and I love my job. Not everyone who works in daycares or preschools is a brainless twit. I teach at a preschool because I have wanted to for as long as I can remember. Preschools and daycares exist because parents put their jobs as a priority over their children and let someone else raise them. If you people don't have respect for the people who take care of your children, maybe you should stay home with them. And have you ever thought about how hard it is for one person to watch 10 kids during a day (or 20 kids with another teacher with you)? We don't see everything that happens. It's impossible to watch all those kids at once. So think about what you say about the people who take care of your children. We are an important part of their lives. Some people may not be trained to be teachers and are only working there because they need the money, but we're not all stupid!

so you admit you cant do your job to the extent it should be done? especially with two teachers in the room. not too hard to tag team the kids and always have one in the thick of it all watching whats going on. i worked in a daycare at my high school for a couple years my jr and sr year. it wasnt that difficult to watch 20 kids, and i was not only a boy, i was not a degreed "pro" like yourself. pretty harsh comment on the parent priority there too. i raised my kids until they were almost 4, they went to preschool to learn how to interact with more than just the family and friends they had at home and the park. when they got into preschool there was no development, since they were learning shapes and colors. mine were learning the alphabet and words. at kindergarten, i almost regretted teaching them how to read and write their name and a few words, as they were so far ahead of the other kids they got bored often. they didnt become behavior issues however and worked through it all, being placed into a gifted program in first grade due to their testing. this was hardly the outcome of a parent that "put their jobs as a priority over their children and let someone else raise them". teachers like you need to realize that youre there to teach and protect children that young, and your opinion may be wrong on why the parent lets them go there.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: Renob
Dude little kids get injured, NOT a big deal.

Bleeding is part of being a little kid.

lol I laugh at the

I already took photos of the bruises on her face.

Get over it and move on.

He pays for her to be in a safe environment. If they cannot provide this then something needs to be done. Yea, kids get hurt all the time...but that doesn't mean it can't be avoided at times. The day care needs to have enough people on hand to keep an eye on the kids.

Nope. There's not a daycare anywhere that has enough people on staff to prevent stuff like this. Only thing they might get in hot water for is if they have another incident involving the same kid.

Kids get hurt. This is just as likely to happen at home. No parent follows their kid around 24/7 to make sure they don't get hurt.

Sure makes me glad my wife can stay home with our son. I'll be damned if I pay that much money to a facility that can't provide a safe place for my kid. I know their kids, and that they'll get banged up playing/fighting with each other, tripping on their own shoes/toys/objects/etc...but that's isn't an excuse incidences that can be prevented.

 

[bctbct]

calm down, stuff like this just conditions you for when she gets bitten a few times. They give the bitters like 3-4 bites before they kick them out so train her to stay away from them after the first time

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: Renob
Dude little kids get injured, NOT a big deal.

Bleeding is part of being a little kid.

lol I laugh at the

I already took photos of the bruises on her face.

Get over it and move on.

He pays for her to be in a safe environment. If they cannot provide this then something needs to be done. Yea, kids get hurt all the time...but that doesn't mean it can't be avoided at times. The day care needs to have enough people on hand to keep an eye on the kids.

Nope. There's not a daycare anywhere that has enough people on staff to prevent stuff like this. Only thing they might get in hot water for is if they have another incident involving the same kid.

Kids get hurt. This is just as likely to happen at home. No parent follows their kid around 24/7 to make sure they don't get hurt.

Sure makes me glad my wife can stay home with our son. I'll be damned if I pay that much money to a facility that can't provide a safe place for my kid. I know their kids, and that they'll get banged up playing/fighting with each other, tripping on their own shoes/toys/objects/etc...but that's isn't an excuse incidences that can be prevented.

so if little judy and johnny were sitting in your living room playing while you and his mommy were talking over coffee on the couch had the same altercation, you would have been able to prevent it? she has book, he grabs it and she resists. parent says hey, stop fighting. little johnny grabs her face and scratches, youre still sitting on the couch trying to look up johnnys moms skirt, only realizing it even happened when she screams and cries about it. sure, you can prevent that. right. kids will fight, that age is known for self realization, selfishness and overreacting with violence/ tantrums. the key is getting them to realize the fits and hurting others to get what they want isnt the right thing, getting it out of their system ealry and quickly. things will happen regardless, unless you wrap them in bubble wrap and hug them 24/7.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
New daycare?

Yes, if stuff like this happens again - definitely. But I don't want to just let it go - their attitude pisses me the hell off.

Anyone else think you're an idiot because you chose to enrol her there? Thats something for you to ascertain before you put your child in their care. A risk that you took.

Don't participate in the pussification of human kind by resorting to some thing like legal action, either solve it by tearing a strip off them and doing the ultimate protest like withdraw your child, or suck it up.. and go and talk to the new kids parents.

How did they exhibit an attitude, would they not snitch out what kid did it or something? In which case I would be annoyed too but seriously..

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: RKS
Is the kid an illegal immigrant? They don't understand/respect our social structure.

lol wtf?

EDIT: Probably should've read a bit further before responding

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: Renob
Dude little kids get injured, NOT a big deal.

Bleeding is part of being a little kid.

lol I laugh at the

I already took photos of the bruises on her face.

Get over it and move on.

He pays for her to be in a safe environment. If they cannot provide this then something needs to be done. Yea, kids get hurt all the time...but that doesn't mean it can't be avoided at times. The day care needs to have enough people on hand to keep an eye on the kids.

Nope. There's not a daycare anywhere that has enough people on staff to prevent stuff like this. Only thing they might get in hot water for is if they have another incident involving the same kid.

Kids get hurt. This is just as likely to happen at home. No parent follows their kid around 24/7 to make sure they don't get hurt.

Sure makes me glad my wife can stay home with our son. I'll be damned if I pay that much money to a facility that can't provide a safe place for my kid. I know their kids, and that they'll get banged up playing/fighting with each other, tripping on their own shoes/toys/objects/etc...but that's isn't an excuse incidences that can be prevented.

so if little judy and johnny were sitting in your living room playing while you and his mommy were talking over coffee on the couch had the same altercation, you would have been able to prevent it? she has book, he grabs it and she resists. parent says hey, stop fighting. little johnny grabs her face and scratches, youre still sitting on the couch trying to look up johnnys moms skirt, only realizing it even happened when she screams and cries about it. sure, you can prevent that. right. kids will fight, that age is known for self realization, selfishness and overreacting with violence/ tantrums. the key is getting them to realize the fits and hurting others to get what they want isnt the right thing, getting it out of their system ealry and quickly. things will happen regardless, unless you wrap them in bubble wrap and hug them 24/7.

So happy you have it all figured out, maybe you should keep out of the skirts altogether and pay attention to you kids then?

 

[jjones]

I remember when my daughter had a couple of problems with one or two kids at her preschool. She has a fairly passive personality, so there was nothing standing in the way of them bothering her. When I found out about it, I taught her to make a fist and punch whoever was bothering her right in the nose.

Not long after that we had a parent/teacher conference about my daughter's behavior with one of the other children.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Homerboy
I hate to see what some of you people would do if one of your kids got in an actual fight during their years.

If they're defending themselves or somebody else, I'll applaud them. If they're upset because somebody wouldn't give them a Tonka truck then I'd come down like a ton of bricks and nip that behavior in the bud.

But, ya, you're right. I think instead, I'll teach them to just make sure nobody is looking and to use a sock full of Linkin Logs and to deny everything afterward.

1. There is usually no more than 1 or 2 good Tonka Trucks in a given classroom; they need to be guarded with prejudice.

2. By the time a 3YO takes off his shoe and sock, trots over and finds enough LLs, puts them in aforementioned sock, finds the offender, and then can actually swing the sock with enough accuracy, he/she has probably forgotten why their sock is off their foot.

1. Only if it's the one Tonka truck where the axel isn't gummed up with graham cracker dust.

2. Funny, but preschool is usually for 5 year olds.

Your kids did preschool at age 5?

 

[Shadow Conception]

Originally posted by: heathertre

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

but let's face it....daycare workers are about as bright as McDonald's burger flippers. This is a known hazard, unfortunately.

Excuse me? I have a bachelors degree in Early Childhood (birth to age 8). I teach at a preschool and I love my job. Not everyone who works in daycares or preschools is a brainless twit. I teach at a preschool because I have wanted to for as long as I can remember. Preschools and daycares exist because parents put their jobs as a priority over their children and let someone else raise them. If you people don't have respect for the people who take care of your children, maybe you should stay home with them. And have you ever thought about how hard it is for one person to watch 10 kids during a day (or 20 kids with another teacher with you)? We don't see everything that happens. It's impossible to watch all those kids at once. So think about what you say about the people who take care of your children. We are an important part of their lives. Some people may not be trained to be teachers and are only working there because they need the money, but we're not all stupid!

Because you have taken that class, you will NEVER understand us children. Attempting to apply logic to us is like attempting to mix oil and water.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Homerboy
I hate to see what some of you people would do if one of your kids got in an actual fight during their years.

If they're defending themselves or somebody else, I'll applaud them. If they're upset because somebody wouldn't give them a Tonka truck then I'd come down like a ton of bricks and nip that behavior in the bud.

But, ya, you're right. I think instead, I'll teach them to just make sure nobody is looking and to use a sock full of Linkin Logs and to deny everything afterward.

1. There is usually no more than 1 or 2 good Tonka Trucks in a given classroom; they need to be guarded with prejudice.

2. By the time a 3YO takes off his shoe and sock, trots over and finds enough LLs, puts them in aforementioned sock, finds the offender, and then can actually swing the sock with enough accuracy, he/she has probably forgotten why their sock is off their foot.

1. Only if it's the one Tonka truck where the axel isn't gummed up with graham cracker dust.

2. Funny, but preschool is usually for 5 year olds.

Your kids did preschool at age 5?

Yes. many do or are you saying thats too old? THe definitions of "preschool" kindergarten" and "day care" often get tossed around interchangably... especially in this thread. We've run the gambit.

Mine started Montessori school at 3 and are/have done tremendously well.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
We've run the gambit.

You probably mean gamut.
This thread has derailed.

 

[alkemyst]

spring for better daycare, if you want constant monitoring get a nanny.

accept kids get hurt and don't let your kid grow up to be an emo and think everyone always wins.

Sorry but that kid would have still scratched your's and all the teacher would be able to do is take care of it.

Many parents I think are looking to cash in with lawsuits today by purposedly putting their children in harms way and then playing stupid.

Bottom line though: If the said aide was as blind as you say, WTF are you keeping your kid there.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: Renob
Dude little kids get injured, NOT a big deal.

Bleeding is part of being a little kid.

lol I laugh at the

I already took photos of the bruises on her face.

Get over it and move on.

Bleeding is part of being a kid when you trip on a playground and fall. Or you have a friendly play, and accidentally get scratched. Getting bloody bruises because some bully came in and tried to take a book from you - not part of being in preschool.

Yeah it is. You learn your pecking order. I think they should allow our senate/house to beat the fuck out of each other too. It would cut down on people doing things they really don't want to stand behind.

 

[Delta6Echo]

Originally posted by: paulney
My wife got a call from preschool today: our daughter (3 years old) is bleeding, they are putting ice and coagulant cream on - please come over. My wife rushes over there. She finds our daughter with 2 big bloody scratches, with one starting almost from the eye across the cheek.

They do not know how it happened, because the primary teacher left for the break, and the substitute wouldn't see an elephant if it walked into the room. They told us some girl did it ('it happens sometimes, sorry'), but our daughter told us it was a new boy that came in today. She was reading a book when he came over and tried to snatch the book away from her. She wouldn't let go (it's her own book she brought in that morning), and so he scratched her face to blood.

What pisses me off is that they absolutely do not want to take responsibility for it. They are trying to do damage control ('yes, it happens, blah-blah') when the main issue is that kids were unsupervised! I am not into bullshit suits and stuff, but I want to make clear to them that if this happens again, there will be consequences.

What are my options here? I already took photos of the bruises on her face.
Thanks.

Cliffs:
- teacher left for break
- substitute is a blind bat
- kids are unsupervised
- my daughter gets bloody scratches on the face from a new kid
- I am outraged :|

Gee, I don't know. What does Mr. Common Sense say? :roll:

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: paulney
My wife got a call from preschool today: our daughter (3 years old) is bleeding, they are putting ice and coagulant cream on - please come over. My wife rushes over there. She finds our daughter with 2 big bloody scratches, with one starting almost from the eye across the cheek.

They do not know how it happened, because the primary teacher left for the break, and the substitute wouldn't see an elephant if it walked into the room. |

That last part concerns me.
If you know that they have people working there that are that incompetent I would not let my child go there. If they had seen it happen and could point out what happened that would be different. Kids that age get hurt and misbehave so no foul on the kids, but the teachers are there to supervise and these people clearly aren't.

The preschool near me has a rule, If you can't see the child, your not doing your job.
And they stand by it.
When I see the kids on the playground they have one staff watching each small group of children.

Its not like some of the preschools I have seen where you have all these children running around while the teachers are gathered together to have a gossip session.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Delta6Echo

Originally posted by: paulney
...OP...|

Gee, I don't know. What does Mr. Common Sense say? :roll:

He says you're a prick and you touch yourself at night.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Delta6Echo

Originally posted by: paulney
My wife got a call from preschool today: our daughter (3 years old) is bleeding, they are putting ice and coagulant cream on - please come over. My wife rushes over there. She finds our daughter with 2 big bloody scratches, with one starting almost from the eye across the cheek.

They do not know how it happened, because the primary teacher left for the break, and the substitute wouldn't see an elephant if it walked into the room. They told us some girl did it ('it happens sometimes, sorry'), but our daughter told us it was a new boy that came in today. She was reading a book when he came over and tried to snatch the book away from her. She wouldn't let go (it's her own book she brought in that morning), and so he scratched her face to blood.

What pisses me off is that they absolutely do not want to take responsibility for it. They are trying to do damage control ('yes, it happens, blah-blah') when the main issue is that kids were unsupervised! I am not into bullshit suits and stuff, but I want to make clear to them that if this happens again, there will be consequences.

What are my options here? I already took photos of the bruises on her face.
Thanks.

Cliffs:
- teacher left for break
- substitute is a blind bat
- kids are unsupervised
- my daughter gets bloody scratches on the face from a new kid
- I am outraged :|

Gee, I don't know. What does Mr. Common Sense say? :roll:

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