My daughter was hurt in preschool

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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Times when I didn't want to watch my kid , when they were 3 years old.
No, I can't think of any.

sorry you never slept, took a shower, had sex (oh never mind, I get it and that is just sick).

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Ignorant or Trolling ?
I raised 4 kids to adults and they are more respectful than you, so I must have done something right.

so when another adult doesn't agree they are being disrespectful?


man so full of fail.

When someone portraying an adult cannot have a conversation without resorting to trying to attack a persons character, that is showing a lack of respect.

I made my statement so you could get it.

I never attacked you other than stating where your implications were going.

 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Riase your kids instead of having someone else do it?
:thumbsup:
QFmf'nT !
Since they are most likely not going to expel the kid who did the deed, you should find another child care alternative. Your child is NOT safe there, as evidenced by her face.
Totally unacceptable.

Good luck switching schools whenever someone touches your kid.
Obfuscate much?
This isn't about someone simply "touching".
This is about another child acting in a hurtful manner, while unsupervised.

There's blood, there's been a foul.

 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy

not always. not in preschool anyway. usually the "substitute" is not a teacher but usually someone who is training.

ahh get it...they don't call those teachers here though.

Our pre-schools have teachers, our daycares have whatever meets the qualifications. For the cheap places it's usually at the level of a high school senior or worse most of the time.


hmm not sure youa re getting it. heh

the "teachers" are real teachers. they have degrees and everything. BUT the assistants don't have to be. they just have to have some training (cert). they just can't be in controle of the class.

Also a teacher can't have more then like 6 kids without an assistant then they can have another 3-4 (up to 13 or so i think).

personally i think thats way to many kids. wich is why the one we go to has a class limit of 8 (teacher and one assistant).

 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy

not always. not in preschool anyway. usually the "substitute" is not a teacher but usually someone who is training.

ahh get it...they don't call those teachers here though.

Our pre-schools have teachers, our daycares have whatever meets the qualifications. For the cheap places it's usually at the level of a high school senior or worse most of the time.


hmm not sure youa re getting it. heh

the "teachers" are real teachers. they have degrees and everything. BUT the assistants don't have to be. they just have to have some training (cert). they just can't be in controle of the class.

Also a teacher can't have more then like 6 kids without an assistant then they can have another 3-4 (up to 13 or so i think).

personally i think thats way to many kids. wich is why the one we go to has a class limit of 8 (teacher and one assistant).

you said in preschool the teachers don't have to be.

Do you know what you say?

you also may think that is too many kids for one teacher, but to fix it just provide more cash.

easy fix, if you have it...if not shut the fuck up.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Riase your kids instead of having someone else do it?
:thumbsup:
QFmf'nT !
Since they are most likely not going to expel the kid who did the deed, you should find another child care alternative. Your child is NOT safe there, as evidenced by her face.
Totally unacceptable.

Good luck switching schools whenever someone touches your kid.
Obfuscate much?
This isn't about someone simply "touching".
This is about another child acting in a hurtful manner, while unsupervised.

There's blood, there's been a foul.

a kid can draw blood on a knee scrape.

Sure let's sue everyone now.
 

SolMiester

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Dec 19, 2004
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You could leave the kid with Granny instead of the daycare, however she will miss out on social skills, or, you could teach your daughter to hit back HARDER!
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy

not always. not in preschool anyway. usually the "substitute" is not a teacher but usually someone who is training.

ahh get it...they don't call those teachers here though.

Our pre-schools have teachers, our daycares have whatever meets the qualifications. For the cheap places it's usually at the level of a high school senior or worse most of the time.


hmm not sure youa re getting it. heh

the "teachers" are real teachers. they have degrees and everything. BUT the assistants don't have to be. they just have to have some training (cert). they just can't be in controle of the class.

Also a teacher can't have more then like 6 kids without an assistant then they can have another 3-4 (up to 13 or so i think).

personally i think thats way to many kids. wich is why the one we go to has a class limit of 8 (teacher and one assistant).

you said in preschool the teachers don't have to be.

Do you know what you say?

you also may think that is too many kids for one teacher, but to fix it just provide more cash.

easy fix, if you have it...if not shut the fuck up.

actually im trying to figure out what you said.



he said the "sub" was left in charge. odds are it was a assistant. Assistants do not need to have a college degree just a cert.




 

JD50

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Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I didn't pay for anything.

They know their child and that makes a huge difference.
And if you have a 3 year old at home, you should know what that child is doing.
Maybe your of the mindset , put a child in front of the tv and go about your business ?

you are funny. You do realize there are sometimes you want to not watch your kid (of course you know ahead of time what is available in whatever room).

You are very ignorant or just trolling.

Even the best parents have kids that have accidents that the did not witness physically happening.

You sound like all the tools in their first semester of child psychology that think they know better than all the parents in the last 3,000 or so years.

Times when I didn't want to watch my kid , when they were 3 years old.
No, I can't think of any.

Ignorant or Trolling ?
I raised 4 kids to adults and they are more respectful than you, so I must have done something right.

You are sooooo FOS. Things happen in a matter of seconds with little kids. You could turn your head to take a sip of water, look back, and your kid could be on the floor crying and you'd have no idea what happened.

If something that like that never happened with any of your 4 kids then I'm pretty sure that you weren't the one watching them. I'm guessing your wife stayed home with your kids, and if something like that happened she lied to you about it so you wouldn't go all psycho on her about watching your kids without blinking an eye.

Seriously, you had 4 kids and there was not ONE second that you weren't hovering over them watching their every move? No, you definitely were not the one watching those kids all day, either that or you're lying. Or maybe you just kept them all locked up in one room all day long and just sat there and stared at them....who knows?
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Times when I didn't want to watch my kid , when they were 3 years old.
No, I can't think of any.

sorry you never slept, took a shower, had sex (oh never mind, I get it and that is just sick).

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Ignorant or Trolling ?
I raised 4 kids to adults and they are more respectful than you, so I must have done something right.

so when another adult doesn't agree they are being disrespectful?


man so full of fail.

It's obvious to me that he was not the one at home with his kids when they were growing up. Or maybe he wore a diaper too so he'd never have to take his eyes off of them.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Riase your kids instead of having someone else do it?
:thumbsup:
QFmf'nT !
Since they are most likely not going to expel the kid who did the deed, you should find another child care alternative. Your child is NOT safe there, as evidenced by her face.
Totally unacceptable.

Good luck switching schools whenever someone touches your kid.
Obfuscate much?
This isn't about someone simply "touching".
This is about another child acting in a hurtful manner, while unsupervised.

There's blood, there's been a foul.

a kid can draw blood on a knee scrape.
One can create instances to bolster a position until you turn blue as well.
Any differentiation between a self-inflicted accidental act and one by a hostile classmate acting unsupervised?


Sure let's sue everyone now.
I never said anything about sueing anyone.
I advocate family raising or failing that, a day care that actually monitors child activity.

 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: waggy

he said the "sub" was left in charge. odds are it was a assistant. Assistants do not need to have a college degree just a cert.

What difference does it make if they have a degree or not? Do you really think that a teach having a degree is somehow going to stop another 4 year old from trying to snatch a book from a kid? And do you think that someone without a degree can't figure out what to do in that situation?

What happened here is something so basic that they don't need to teach it in college.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Times when I didn't want to watch my kid , when they were 3 years old.
No, I can't think of any.

sorry you never slept, took a shower, had sex (oh never mind, I get it and that is just sick).

OK, alkemyst is a cranky ol' bastard, but this is :laugh:

Weee too many drinks tonight...
 

ghost recon88

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Oct 2, 2005
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Talk about overreacting parents...what do you expect to get from this whole ordeal? You think money can make up your kids scratches? Kids get injured OK, especially at a young age when they don't know how to play gently, no reason to go out and try and make money off of it :disgust:
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I didn't pay for anything.

They know their child and that makes a huge difference.
And if you have a 3 year old at home, you should know what that child is doing.
Maybe your of the mindset , put a child in front of the tv and go about your business ?

you are funny. You do realize there are sometimes you want to not watch your kid (of course you know ahead of time what is available in whatever room).

You are very ignorant or just trolling.

Even the best parents have kids that have accidents that the did not witness physically happening.

You sound like all the tools in their first semester of child psychology that think they know better than all the parents in the last 3,000 or so years.

Times when I didn't want to watch my kid , when they were 3 years old.
No, I can't think of any.

Ignorant or Trolling ?
I raised 4 kids to adults and they are more respectful than you, so I must have done something right.

You are sooooo FOS. Things happen in a matter of seconds with little kids. You could turn your head to take a sip of water, look back, and your kid could be on the floor crying and you'd have no idea what happened.

If something that like that never happened with any of your 4 kids then I'm pretty sure that you weren't the one watching them. I'm guessing your wife stayed home with your kids, and if something like that happened she lied to you about it so you wouldn't go all psycho on her about watching your kids without blinking an eye.

Seriously, you had 4 kids and there was not ONE second that you weren't hovering over them watching their every move? No, you definitely were not the one watching those kids all day, either that or you're lying. Or maybe you just kept them all locked up in one room all day long and just sat there and stared at them....who knows?

Maybe he is talking about 'The Sims' or something.
 

Rage187

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Dec 30, 2000
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1. Build bridge
2. Get over it

my kid gets scratches and bruises all the time from daycare. It is called being a kid.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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A big part of what parents are missing today with their fear and not wanting their kids to even speak with others, yet alone interact with 'those other kids' is that much of school prior to even your last couple years of college is more about social integration than academic education. Much of what one learns in school is not that difficult...read a chapter answer questions, rinse / repeat. Usually when it's too difficult it means the child did not pay attention in the foundation classes or indeed has a learning disability. You can't expect to do too well in trig and geometry when you slept through algebra.

Parents through their own fear are creating kids that are afraid. I hear my friends from high school and college talk about how they were such players/badasses but I know for a fact they were nothing like that. They didn't go to parties, they didn't play sports, they weren't even involved in the nerd groups after class. They think they understand what it was like and confuse the fuck out of their kids by painting this picture that you will basically die if you have sex, drink or even try pot. Kids believe the stupidest things if they are ingrained into them.

We have a very high latino population down here. We have to allow them into our schools and give them exceptions due to 'culture'. At UF in my health class security had to be called when this chick insisted that our teacher was teaching falsely. She insisted colds cause colds, chicken soup can cure any disease, basically all the old wives tales she adamantly swore her mother was right about.

Anyway her and her mom burst into class on day and start going off on the teacher and telling us to leave this class. Half of it was in spanish so I have no idea what was said. Our teacher was spanish too. It was entertaining.

Didn't see that chick in class after that, probably getting home schooled.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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After observing the grown-ups in this thread I honestly dont see how you can expect much from a couple of toddlers.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: paulney
My wife got a call from preschool today: our daughter (3 years old) is bleeding, they are putting ice and coagulant cream on - please come over. My wife rushes over there. She finds our daughter with 2 big bloody scratches, with one starting almost from the eye across the cheek.

They do not know how it happened, because the primary teacher left for the break, and the substitute wouldn't see an elephant if it walked into the room. They told us some girl did it ('it happens sometimes, sorry'), but our daughter told us it was a new boy that came in today. She was reading a book when he came over and tried to snatch the book away from her. She wouldn't let go (it's her own book she brought in that morning), and so he scratched her face to blood.

What pisses me off is that they absolutely do not want to take responsibility for it. They are trying to do damage control ('yes, it happens, blah-blah') when the main issue is that kids were unsupervised! I am not into bullshit suits and stuff, but I want to make clear to them that if this happens again, there will be consequences.

What are my options here? I already took photos of the bruises on her face.
Thanks.

Cliffs:
- teacher left for break
- substitute is a blind bat
- kids are unsupervised
- my daughter gets bloody scratches on the face from a new kid
- I am outraged :|

I work in a school with kids from kindgergarten to grade 4. The sub may not be the greatest there is, but regardless if she is blind or not, there is probably nothing she could of done to prevent your daughter from getting scratched. That stuff happens so fast. Anyways from what you wrote the mistake I gather on their part was not identifying who it was that did it and consequencing them appropriately. Regardless, these things happen.

 

Leros

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Jul 11, 2004
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I don't understand this generational difference. Weren't all the parents in this thread the same kids that were scraping/poking/cutting themselves 30 years ago when they were kids. Why are you babying your kids so much now? You know you turned out fine. You remember having fun when you hurt yourself.
 

dmw16

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Nov 12, 2000
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I'd say it happens. Get the guilty party (and their parents) to apologize and move on.

little kids get hurt.
 
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