My daughter was hurt in preschool

[waggy]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Homerboy

If they're defending themselves or somebody else, I'll applaud them. If they're upset because somebody wouldn't give them a Tonka truck then I'd come down like a ton of bricks and nip that behavior in the bud.

But, ya, you're right. I think instead, I'll teach them to just make sure nobody is looking and to use a sock full of Linkin Logs and to deny everything afterward.

I'm not talking about what you'd do to your kid. Don't try to read between the lines... I'm talking about suing the parents and anyone within 50ft of the altercation as many of the posters here have suggested for the OP to do.

I wouldn't do that so long as there was action taken. Either the kid being suspended for a week or his parents and him apologizing in person to me and my daughter infront of the class or something. But if nothing was being done you can be damn sure I'm going to do something. As an adult, doing what he did could easily land you in jail for a couple months.....i.e. it is NOT acceptable behavior for adults so it shouldn't be for kids either, especially since kids tend to turn into adults.

What's a little 3 year old, who probably doesn't have the mental capacity to form complete sentences yet, saying "I'm sorry" going to do for you? Since you're all for teaching kids right and wrong, you're going to teach them that saying "I'm sorry" will remedy any situation.

They are three fucking years old. God damnit I would hate to see half you peoples' kids when they're 18 years old with the helicopter parents you people are. Your kid is not going to die from some mindless child's actions in a day care. It clearly is the american way that everything done has to be someone's fault-- more specifically, someone ELSE'S fault. The parents of america have to grow the fuck up.

3 yr olds know more then you think. if you catch them in teh act of doing something wrong trying to teach them that is wrong and hurts other people. so you can try to teach them sorry.


NOW if its something that happened an hour ro so ago yeah no point in it. they won't remember or understand.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

What's a little 3 year old, who probably doesn't have the mental capacity to form complete sentences yet, saying "I'm sorry" going to do for you?

For your information: unless they are full retards or have parents who have no conversations with their children, 3-year olds have full capacity to form complete complex sentences, remember things that happened weeks and months ago, and they can perfectly understand what 'I am sorry' means.

 

[WA261]

It's preschool. Kids play. They can get hurt at times. A teacher cant watch every child non stop. Options....no big deal.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: paulney

There was never an issue of fighting before: the majority of kids there aren't troublemakers, and they all get along nicely.

Then DEAL with it! This is a fairly harmless isolated incident, so what's the big fuss?

Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do. And the teacher/substitute failed to control the situation. That's the big fuss.

 

[potato28]

Take a shit on the little boys head.

 

[Vehemence]

Originally posted by: potato28
Take a shit on the little boys head.

Sage advice for countless situations.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: paulney

There was never an issue of fighting before: the majority of kids there aren't troublemakers, and they all get along nicely.

Then DEAL with it! This is a fairly harmless isolated incident, so what's the big fuss?

Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do. And the teacher/substitute failed to control the situation. That's the big fuss.

If he was taught properly he would have gone for the throat. Now his parents should absolutely be sued.

 

[elektrolokomotive]

Get a nanny if you feel your kid requires undivided attention.

 

[alphatarget1]

sue them.

 

[Homerboy]

hahahahah i want to see that.


though. i did try to teach my daughter at 3 to say sorry. of course thats IF I cought her in the act. something that happened an hour ago its useless heh

Generally speaking you CAN'T teach a child younger than 5(?) what "sorry" really means in a way that they understand what they are saying and WHY they are saying it. I've read this in several locations and heard it discussed on several shows. I THINK the age was 5 before actual comprehension sunk in

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: paulney

There was never an issue of fighting before: the majority of kids there aren't troublemakers, and they all get along nicely.

Then DEAL with it! This is a fairly harmless isolated incident, so what's the big fuss?

Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do. And the teacher/substitute failed to control the situation. That's the big fuss.

TAUGHT? You think his parents are training him to attack?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: paulney

There was never an issue of fighting before: the majority of kids there aren't troublemakers, and they all get along nicely.

Then DEAL with it! This is a fairly harmless isolated incident, so what's the big fuss?

Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do. And the teacher/substitute failed to control the situation. That's the big fuss.

TAUGHT? You think his parents are training him to attack?

Dude, it's fucking gladiator school at his house.

This thread just gets better and better.

OP, your kid didn't die, lose an eye, or is perm. damaged in any way. Stop being a fucking helicopter parent and move on.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: paulney
Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do.

Honestly, intelligent design is less of a logical stretch than what you're postulating.

I'm being totally serious. I know you're a parent and your brains tend to switch off when your precious pumpkin gets hurt, but please don't turn into one of "those" parents.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: paulney

There was never an issue of fighting before: the majority of kids there aren't troublemakers, and they all get along nicely.

Then DEAL with it! This is a fairly harmless isolated incident, so what's the big fuss?

Have you seen 3 year-olds fight? They can't swing properly, if they are lucky they hit their opponent somewhere on the torso. This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do. And the teacher/substitute failed to control the situation. That's the big fuss.

TAUGHT? You think his parents are training him to attack?

My boys are required to put in 2 hours of Wii Sports boxing everyday or they are not allowed to eat. I have to prepare them for book snatchers.

 

[Homerboy]

My boys are required to put in 2 hours of Wii Sports boxing everyday or they are not allowed to eat. I have to prepare them for book snatchers.

Pfftt... Wii boxing. You see 300? Yeah. My kid goes into the winter woods next year...

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: waggy
well you could call the cops.
call whoever is in charge of the school
find out the boys name and sue the parents

etc.

They are not releasing the name of the boy (they still think it's a girl who did it!), and they are not releasing the name of the substitute either (although we know who the substitute was - it's always the same woman).

this has happened before? if this isnt the first time, id yank my kid out and make them refund what was outstanding on the account. if this isnt the normal for them, let the director know. if the director isnt interested, find out who owns the place and talk to them directly. the director can (and legally has to) give you that info. i had a few incidences with a daycare a long time ago, and every one of them was satisfied. but on that third incident i yanked my kid out and found a different place, explaining and impressing the importance of why to the new place the reasons for leaving the other. its all about your comfort level. pick that and act accordingly. once my kid turned 3 and my twins were born i kept her home and raised her and my twins for 3 years on my own.

edit:

forgot to add the whole "this happens, kids get hurt sometimes." part...

Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
My gf is working at a daycare while she is going to school, and they have a problem kid who is a biter. He's like 2 or 2.5, just old enough to walk over to the other toddlers and grab hold. The staff is aware of it, the parents get irate about it and they try to prevent it as much as possible, but it still happens sometimes.

I'm incredulous when I hear the stories - I demand to know why they aren't confronting the biter's parents and telling them that he'll be expelled if it continues to happen, but apparently that's just not how its done. They inform the parents, who don't seem to care, and life goes on. It's insanity to me.

thats how its done here. one kid got expelled for constantly hitting other kids, parents were warned many times before he was not allowed back. i was there the morning he was refused entry, the mom about started a boxing match with the director and teacher, and didnt leave until the parents that were there backed them up (me included) that her son was hitting the other kids all the time. we had all complained about it over the previous weeks. my best friend has an autistic son, he was kicked out of both day care and kindergarten for his antics before he was officially diagnosed legally, by the state. kindergarten literally lasted 2 days before they refused his entry. he really is that aggressive sometimes, especially in that setting.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Raise your kids instead of having someone else do it?

:thumbsup:

Why has the irony of person 1 complaining about person 2 inadequately watching over person 1's child been lost on so many in this thread?

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Raise your kids instead of having someone else do it?

:thumbsup:

Why has the irony of person 1 complaining about person 2 inadequately watching over person 1's child been lost on so many in this thread?

I'm guessing they are going to say "Because its Person 2's job to do so and that is what they get paid to do"

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Raise your kids instead of having someone else do it?

:thumbsup:

Why has the irony of person 1 complaining about person 2 inadequately watching over person 1's child been lost on so many in this thread?

because most of us understand its not always possible.

while me and my wife have made sacrifices to be able to keep one parent home (me!) i know families where its not a good idea of possible.

 

[HankToms]

Try this method

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[Baked]

Sue the preschool for millions for trauma. Next time you bring your kid to school, have her wear a football helmet.

 

[sutahz]

Accept that things happen and move on.
Comfort your daughter.
Change preschools/daycares.
Punch the brat that hurt your daughter in the face.
Burn down the house of the parents of the brute that beat down your daughter.
SUE SUE SUE... yeah i like this one (!)

"This little brat went straight for the face with his nails, nearly missing her eye. Clearly something he has been taught to do."-Paulney (OP)
Yeah, trained killer, keep telling yourself that. I bet his nails are filed to sharp edges as are his teeth. Get a fucking life and accept it was some brat who needs to learn he cant just take things from people. Oh, and kids lie.

You could also castrate the father and take a metal coat hanger to the mother...

 

[WA261]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Riase your kids instead of having someone else do it?

Ummm.....It is preschool, not daycare. You have no idea what your talking about. It is a form of education for young children which serves as a transition from home to the commencement of more formal schooling

 

[MikeyLSU]

first off, you should confront them and tell them this should not happen again(not that it happened but that they were not there to offer an explanation about what really happened).

Second, don't trust everything your kids say. They never want to be wrong and very well could share some of the blame.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: waggy
well you could call the cops.
call whoever is in charge of the school
find out the boys name and sue the parents

etc.

They are not releasing the name of the boy (they still think it's a girl who did it!), and they are not releasing the name of the substitute either (although we know who the substitute was - it's always the same woman).

This could have happened at a playgroup with your wife and other mothers standing there. Kids get into tussles sometimes, they fight over toys.

This kind of behavior needs a no tolerance policy. Now every day his daughter goes to school she gets to live in fear that he may do it again. Or, better yet, all the kids who saw it now know it's an acceptable method of getting what you want. Yeah, sweep it under the rug....brilliant!

You remind me of that senator in Illinois who voted against breakfast programs saying it would make the children feel dependent on the system.