Originally posted by: smut
Originally posted by: DBL
Why would they only want $180K from you? Surely, they would keep 3-5 female kittens that would each produce at least 90 other kittens , who would each produce at least another 180K in income. If we extrapolate that out over your neighbors? projected remaining life of another 35 years, it seems like you could be in the hole for Millions. I'd probably consider paying her the 180K + a little extra just to make her happy and call it a day. Realize how easy you are getting off.
haha are you serious!??! is he going to pull the 180k out of his back pocket? ANd how is getting off easy? HE DID NOTHING WRONG IN ANY LEGAL SENSE. Prove he did something illegal please!
Originally posted by: Injury
Oh, and before she can sue you, sue her for the costs of the vet bill. Teach her to STFU and stop being a b!tch.
Originally posted by: Codewiz
All you a$$hats that are so anti-pitbull are complete IDIOTS. The issue with pitbulls is not the dogs. It is irresponsible breeders and owners.
Basically you people want to punish the thousands and thousands of law abiding pitbull owners who's dog would never harm a person. If you don't believe me, what the dog whisperer on the national geographic channel. Cesar Millan has proven time and time again it is not vicious dogs that are the problem, it is reckless humans. So yeah, lets blame the dog breed.
That is the simple way out. Then we can ban the NEW NUMBER ONE DOG that attacks people until we have no dogs left.
Because there is no accountability but be honest with yourself. Can you pick out the pitbull out of this lineup? I bet you can't. The fact is that most dogs attributed as pitbulls aren't even pitbulls.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
Take a look and be honest. do you even know what a pitbull is?
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Check out the video
Originally posted by: Codewiz
All you a$$hats that are so anti-pitbull are complete IDIOTS. The issue with pitbulls is not the dogs. It is irresponsible breeders and owners.
Basically you people want to punish the thousands and thousands of law abiding pitbull owners who's dog would never harm a person. If you don't believe me, what the dog whisperer on the national geographic channel. Cesar Millan has proven time and time again it is not vicious dogs that are the problem, it is reckless humans. So yeah, lets blame the dog breed.
That is the simple way out. Then we can ban the NEW NUMBER ONE DOG that attacks people until we have no dogs left.
Because there is no accountability but be honest with yourself. Can you pick out the pitbull out of this lineup? I bet you can't. The fact is that most dogs attributed as pitbulls aren't even pitbulls.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
Take a look and be honest. do you even know what a pitbull is?
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Check out the video
Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: Codewiz
All you a$$hats that are so anti-pitbull are complete IDIOTS. The issue with pitbulls is not the dogs. It is irresponsible breeders and owners.
Basically you people want to punish the thousands and thousands of law abiding pitbull owners who's dog would never harm a person. If you don't believe me, what the dog whisperer on the national geographic channel. Cesar Millan has proven time and time again it is not vicious dogs that are the problem, it is reckless humans. So yeah, lets blame the dog breed.
That is the simple way out. Then we can ban the NEW NUMBER ONE DOG that attacks people until we have no dogs left.
Because there is no accountability but be honest with yourself. Can you pick out the pitbull out of this lineup? I bet you can't. The fact is that most dogs attributed as pitbulls aren't even pitbulls.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
Take a look and be honest. do you even know what a pitbull is?
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Check out the video
I have read every post (sadly in the case of one poster) an I will say one thing about. She is a crack pot and don't pay.
As for those links. Thanks, I usually am not very emotional and I didn't even blink when I saw the beaten and depraved dogs. But those pictures with the pitbulls with their families made my eyes water and has convinced me even though I am a big fan of German Shepards, that once I own a house I will be purchasing a PB. I fogot how cute and adorable a happy PB is. I especially love the ones whos smiles reach around almost to their ears.
Thanks for the Links, and everyone really needs to have the audio turned on when watching the movie.
Anyhow, he says the cat is a Himalayan Tabby and to replace would cost $2000 for the cat, plus another $300 for misc vet setup fees (like vacinations) and finnally, assuming they kept on pace with breeding her twice a year (which they claim they were) and a litter of 5 a time, the cat would still have 9 yrs of breed time = 90 kittens that would have been sold, meaning I should owe them $180,000. If I could not pay, then they would take me to court, or perhaps find some "middle ground".
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
My immediate first thought and original reply to this thread was, oh well, the cat strayed into the neighbor?s yard and the dogs killed it. The fact that the woman is a sleezebag and is trying it on by claiming loss of income, law suit, etc, etc, is BS. However, after discussing this with the wife yesterday, she had an entirely different view and I have to be honest, she had a rather good point. She's not siding with the woman, just the whole situation.
What kind of dog(s) would actually attack and rip to shreds a cat? I'm not talking about working dogs that guard a warehouse or junkyard and are trained to protect commercial property, but the type you find in your everyday friendly neighborhood are not security dogs trained to kill. I do not know of any domesticated dog that would do that unless it was a vicious animal in the first place and then I would start to wonder how long it would be before the dogs attacked a child or an adult.
We have a dog and a cat and they get along together great.
Cats roam - its their nature. Unless you want to keep a cat indoors 24/7, which I think is cruel, they are going to roam the neighborhood. There are many things people can do to try and prevent cats from coming into their yards and soiling the flowerbed, but killing them is not one of them.
Dogs romp around in the backyard, playing with dog toys and bark - it's their nature. A DOMESTICATED DOG DOES NOT ATTACK OTHER ANIMALS AND KILL SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A DOG. THERE?S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT IF IT DOES!
I guess I haven?t read the entire thread, but what kind of dogs were these that killed the cat?
There is no right or wrong solution to this situation. The lady is a sleezebag, but the OP seeking sympathy from ATOT is also wrong. He needs to do something with his dogs, like train them!
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
My immediate first thought and original reply to this thread was, oh well, the cat strayed into the neighbor?s yard and the dogs killed it. The fact that the woman is a sleezebag and is trying it on by claiming loss of income, law suit, etc, etc, is BS. However, after discussing this with the wife yesterday, she had an entirely different view and I have to be honest, she had a rather good point. She's not siding with the woman, just the whole situation.
What kind of dog(s) would actually attack and rip to shreds a cat? I'm not talking about working dogs that guard a warehouse or junkyard and are trained to protect commercial property, but the type you find in your everyday friendly neighborhood are not security dogs trained to kill. I do not know of any domesticated dog that would do that unless it was a vicious animal in the first place and then I would start to wonder how long it would be before the dogs attacked a child or an adult.
We have a dog and a cat and they get along together great.
Cats roam - its their nature. Unless you want to keep a cat indoors 24/7, which I think is cruel, they are going to roam the neighborhood. There are many things people can do to try and prevent cats from coming into their yards and soiling the flowerbed, but killing them is not one of them.
Dogs romp around in the backyard, playing with dog toys and bark - it's their nature. A DOMESTICATED DOG DOES NOT ATTACK OTHER ANIMALS AND KILL SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A DOG. THERE?S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT IF IT DOES!
I guess I haven?t read the entire thread, but what kind of dogs were these that killed the cat?
There is no right or wrong solution to this situation. The lady is a sleezebag, but the OP seeking sympathy from ATOT is also wrong. He needs to do something with his dogs, like train them!
You are missing something ENTIRELY. Cats and dogs by nature don't get along. ALL DOGS have prey drive. Dogs are domesticated but that doesn't mean they aren't animals. I have cats so my dogs are cool with them.
Dogs that are not raised with or around cats are going to go after cats just like they will go after squirrels and rabbits.. Simple as that. It isn't an owners responsibility to socialize a dog with cats.
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
Cats roam - its their nature. Unless you want to keep a cat indoors 24/7, which I think is cruel
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
There are many things people can do to try and prevent cats from coming into their yards and soiling the flowerbed
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
but killing them is not one of them.
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
i know...i thought of that yesterday after replying....what kind of dog kills something like that? Natural enemies, yes....but ripping it to shreds isn't normal
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
My immediate first thought and original reply to this thread was, oh well, the cat strayed into the neighbor?s yard and the dogs killed it. The fact that the woman is a sleezebag and is trying it on by claiming loss of income, law suit, etc, etc, is BS. However, after discussing this with the wife yesterday, she had an entirely different view and I have to be honest, she had a rather good point. She's not siding with the woman, just the whole situation.
What kind of dog(s) would actually attack and rip to shreds a cat? I'm not talking about working dogs that guard a warehouse or junkyard and are trained to protect commercial property, but the type you find in your everyday friendly neighborhood are not security dogs trained to kill. I do not know of any domesticated dog that would do that unless it was a vicious animal in the first place and then I would start to wonder how long it would be before the dogs attacked a child or an adult.
We have a dog and a cat and they get along together great.
Cats roam - its their nature. Unless you want to keep a cat indoors 24/7, which I think is cruel, they are going to roam the neighborhood. There are many things people can do to try and prevent cats from coming into their yards and soiling the flowerbed, but killing them is not one of them.
Dogs romp around in the backyard, playing with dog toys and bark - it's their nature. A DOMESTICATED DOG DOES NOT ATTACK OTHER ANIMALS AND KILL SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A DOG. THERE?S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT IF IT DOES!
I guess I haven?t read the entire thread, but what kind of dogs were these that killed the cat?
There is no right or wrong solution to this situation. The lady is a sleezebag, but the OP seeking sympathy from ATOT is also wrong. He needs to do something with his dogs, like train them!
You are missing something ENTIRELY. Cats and dogs by nature don't get along. ALL DOGS have prey drive. Dogs are domesticated but that doesn't mean they aren't animals. I have cats so my dogs are cool with them.
Dogs that are not raised with or around cats are going to go after cats just like they will go after squirrels and rabbits.. Simple as that. It isn't an owners responsibility to socialize a dog with cats.
Originally posted by: maziwanka
plus, i feel that a lot of these people that fail to understand why a dog would kill another animal have never had dogs.
are you surprised to see a cat rip a mouse to shreds or a bird to shreds (have you ever seen a cat just play with their victims)?
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Child wanders into the street and gets hit by a car: we need stricter speed limits and speed bumps and speeders should get mandatory prison time and liscense taken away.
Cat wanders into neighbors yard and gets eaten by a dog: tough luck, dumb cat got what it deserved.
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Boxxcar
My immediate first thought and original reply to this thread was, oh well, the cat strayed into the neighbor?s yard and the dogs killed it. The fact that the woman is a sleezebag and is trying it on by claiming loss of income, law suit, etc, etc, is BS. However, after discussing this with the wife yesterday, she had an entirely different view and I have to be honest, she had a rather good point. She's not siding with the woman, just the whole situation.
What kind of dog(s) would actually attack and rip to shreds a cat? I'm not talking about working dogs that guard a warehouse or junkyard and are trained to protect commercial property, but the type you find in your everyday friendly neighborhood are not security dogs trained to kill. I do not know of any domesticated dog that would do that unless it was a vicious animal in the first place and then I would start to wonder how long it would be before the dogs attacked a child or an adult.
We have a dog and a cat and they get along together great.
Cats roam - its their nature. Unless you want to keep a cat indoors 24/7, which I think is cruel, they are going to roam the neighborhood. There are many things people can do to try and prevent cats from coming into their yards and soiling the flowerbed, but killing them is not one of them.
Dogs romp around in the backyard, playing with dog toys and bark - it's their nature. A DOMESTICATED DOG DOES NOT ATTACK OTHER ANIMALS AND KILL SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A DOG. THERE?S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT IF IT DOES!
I guess I haven?t read the entire thread, but what kind of dogs were these that killed the cat?
There is no right or wrong solution to this situation. The lady is a sleezebag, but the OP seeking sympathy from ATOT is also wrong. He needs to do something with his dogs, like train them!
You are missing something ENTIRELY. Cats and dogs by nature don't get along. ALL DOGS have prey drive. Dogs are domesticated but that doesn't mean they aren't animals. I have cats so my dogs are cool with them.
Dogs that are not raised with or around cats are going to go after cats just like they will go after squirrels and rabbits.. Simple as that. It isn't an owners responsibility to socialize a dog with cats.
Entirely? I don't think so. I disagree that all dogs have "prey drive." Of course there are 100's of breeds and I am not claiming to be familiar with all of them. At least I have never come across one with the seek and destroy attitude. You read about them in the news, but then they are usually associated with mauling someone or something. Hence this topic. I've seen dogs bark a lot at cats, rabbits, or squirrels, but have never witnessed any mauling due to its instinct to kill. If a dog has this type of temperment that it must kill every little animal it can get its teeth around, then that dog is simply not safe to have around. That is just plain and simple lack of training and the owner is to blame for that. I guess the saying that the dogs bark is bigger than the bite, because most dogs will only just bark, bark, bark, but to actually kill is not right, at least not for a domesticated animal.
Originally posted by: maziwanka
plus, i feel that a lot of these people that fail to understand why a dog would kill another animal have never had dogs.
are you surprised to see a cat rip a mouse to shreds or a bird to shreds (have you ever seen a cat just play with their victims)?