My dream boy/girl

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linuxboy

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Oh please! That's what an idealist thinks, but I'm not an idealist. For love is arguably a necessary condition, but it is not a sufficient condition. I easily fall in and out of love; but for anything to go past that, a man's got to prove to me that he's worth it and has something to offer past that mere feeling. I'm just not an idealist. . . .


Madam, thou hast awaken my desire to do intellectual battle. Begin.

Idealistic conceptions of reality or a resorting to a life of metaphysical understandings ungrounded in epistemic stoicism or even soundness, herein what you seem to conceive of as idealism is not so easily reduceable to necessary-and-sufficient conditions.

Here is what you miss with this reductionism:

If one attempts to systematize reality into a logically coherent pattern of understanding, one opens up to the problem of infinite disjuction (and/or sets arising from creative infinity due to determinism or choice, that has little relevance), conjuction, and the derivation of formal sets that defy formally proven outcomes or propositional statements.

If you thus call a narrow conception as "realism" or at least a negation of what you term idealism as somehow unbefitting a perceived reality (a weak denial, I admit), then you set labels to internal dynamics that cannot be limied to mere words and logical systems.

With the inadequacy and self-reference of logic (problem of epistemic grounding, the myth of the given, etc), understandings of love no longer can be held to a purely necessary/sufficient argumentative format as that never fully reaches what love is.

If you say that you fall in and out of love, madam, then you know not what love is, as it is an everfixed mark, unconditioned by your own limited understanding (and my own) of what it means to be human.

Every human is "worth it". Do you love?


Cheers !
 

linuxboy

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If this be error and upon us proved...

We never writ nor no man ever loved.....


Right LB?




Prove, inconstant madam whose whims and fallings in-and-out of love lead-say that she knows of what love is.

I have writ. I have loved. It is not error.

Prove to me, and we shall lead around each other's logical entanglements until we come to nothing.


Do you love?

I do. It is an everfixed mark. Lovers need no words.


Cheers !
 

Noriaki

Lifer
Jun 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: luvly
Oh, oh, oh! What's that supposed to mean? Are you subscribing to that saying that he who marries beauty marries trouble? :Q
No no, that's not what I meant at all. In fact physical attractiveness is fairly important, I'm just pointing out that my taste doesn't match media projections usually (some women that I've seen on Maxim are quit hot, but some aren't). But everyone has their own taste, that little bit you bolded was a stray thought that didn't really mean much...everyone has their own tastes, this isn't news...or shouldn't be.

Noriaki, no problem there since you have conceded that you aren't really looking for a lady. But you better know that any man with whom I hook up has got to be willing to give up his computer addictions. I mean, I would want to give up some addictions of mine, so I expect the same of him. You will not deny me the quality time for some crappy computer game or computer related stuff. If he ever does that, you can forget him. And I guess that's why he must be someone who spends a limited time on the computer. As much as I do like my computer, I won't replace my significant other with my PC. Whilst I love some breathing space, I also want to spend quality time with my significant other for a healthy relationsip.
I never said I wouldn't give up my computer "addiction"...If I hypothetically had a girlfriend I'd spend a most of my time with her. But computers are my first and favourite hobby, so I will spend some time messing around with it....as I said, I need some time to myself anyways, so I'd just use that time to play with my computer if she doesn't like it. Then the rest of the time could be for her.
But as you mentioned that is all a rather pointless discussion since I don't want a girl so I don't have a problem.

Speaking of . . . you can actually find a female friend who doesn't mind a snuggle. :Q
No not really most of them do. It's just that lately most of my female friends live in different cities so I don't see them all that often. I've moved away from my longest standing friends, and my newer friends are all graduating and moving away. *elaborate phoney sigh* No one good to snuggle with.
lmao
 

Piano Man

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Piano Man's Dream Girl:


1. Knows the difference between John Coltrane and Miles Davis
2. Free thinking and has a great love for humanity
3. Has some spunk
4. Has curves( I don't mean fat, but definately not skin and bones)
5. Can dance her ass off
6. Has a great respect for other cultures and for the environment
7. Loves children
8. Clean but not anal, definately not anal
9. Knows how to cook. I do, so she should too.
10. Good in bed(Yea, you know its important)


I think that's a good start.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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luvly, what happens when you meet that "perfect" guy, but it just doesn't click for you?
 

pamchenko

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my dream girl

1. posts on anandtech alot, that's a real turn on
2. smokes
3. is open minded enough to take it in the pooper
4. overclocks her computer
5. can beat me at counterstrike
6. plays Magic the Gathering
7. is a computer science major

 

Jfur

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Jul 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: luvly
"wg, you know what's really odd? Shortly before meeting The One my friends and I played a game where we extensively listed qualities (physical, personality, other stuff) and then assessed our ideal person. I discovered that I had a loooong-standing pattern of dating a certain type of guy (in various packages) and that 'he' or they weren't really what I was interested in. Met The One the very next week --looking back, I probably would have been oblivious to him if I hadn't figured that out"

You do have a point there, Jfur. But I'll never bend my rules . . . even if it means I'll remain single for the rest of my life. And in that case, I'll just have a male companion. :Q I realised what terirble mistake I made bending the rules. I don't think that my ideal guy is unrealistic really . . . *ahem* . . . we'll just leave it at that. But no compromises here. Even if I shrunk my list, five things will still remain important: His physical appearance (including body, his voice and facial look), isn't fond of eating out, his choice of music, courtesy and respect, and his religious standing. Uh-oh! Did I forget? No drugs or excessive drinking. If he fails in any of these, you can forget it. I won't compromise at all. Kids isn't really an issue, as I really am not bent on having any; and I have my reservations anyway.


Well, I didn't bend the rules, I just realized the implicit "rules" I was intuitively using were at odds with what my actual desires were -- or maybe I just got tired of playing around Prior to that, I never had a "list", it's just that all the guys I dated I met while doing something athletic or daring, so I ended up with jocks (TALL ones). Most of the "jocks" were not too intellectually stimulating, and all of them were highly assertive and constantly trying to reign in my independence. Once I realized that would never lead anywhere it made me easier to see the quiet, introspective, under 6' males as potential mates! And it wasn't because I was looking to settle down, either, it was just a moment of introspection that opened by eyes to my own internal biases. Had I not realized that, who knows ?! All of my friends had this same "frame" for me, envisioning me with tall, muscular he-men types that would be able to "dominate" me
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: luvly
"i think i met her last night hehe "

Damn! The usual cracking up! You have me laughing, Hammer09 . . . keep it coming!

actually i was semi-serious that time

 

djheater

Lifer
Mar 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jfur
All of my friends had this same "frame" for me, envisioning me with tall, muscular he-men types that would be able to "dominate" me


....whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken....



Realistically whether we are romantic or not, we all generally concede that love is beyond the ability of words to define. I would extend that to imply that any definition of love is not therefore love.
 

"Well, I didn't bend the rules, I just realized the implicit "rules" I was intuitively using were at odds with what my actual desires were -- or maybe I just got tired of playing around Prior to that, I never had a "list", it's just that all the guys I dated I met while doing something athletic or daring, so I ended up with jocks (TALL ones). Most of the 'jocks' were not too intellectually stimulating, and all of them were highly assertive and constantly trying to reign in my independence. Once I realized that would never lead anywhere it made me easier to see the quiet, introspective, under 6' males as potential mates! And it wasn't because I was looking to settle down, either, it was just a moment of introspection that opened by eyes to my own internal biases. Had I not realized that, who knows ?! All of my friends had this same 'frame' for me, envisioning me with tall, muscular he-men types that would be able to 'dominate' me"

Interesting, Jfur. Uh-uh-uh . . . I get it. Hehehe! Let me say: For me, the height thing has nothing really to do with 'just a preference for tall men'. It's just that I happen to be a tall woman (6' 1"). As a tall woman, it would be awkward to date shorter men--even though it's happened before (and that was before I hit 6' 1"). :Q Besides, the height runs in my family, so it is only fair to carry what stands out. I want any kids I have to be tall too. I don't care for jocks really . . . only a few have I really had feelings for, and those were the ones who had some decency. But a guy doesn't score high in my book simply because he's a jock, and you would understand if you saw or knew me. I don't really care whether someone's a jock or not . . . he just has to be decent, courteous, intelligent and physically attractive (not just jocks qualify here) <period>. I'm glad you found your match. And I do hope that it remains that way for you.

Good question, Go Punk. I mean . . . I came close to that situation . . . but I'll worry about it when it actually happens. Aaah! Actually, I think that the two go together. For me, love isn't just feelings . . . it's respect too and friendship. The whole indescribable love people speak of is the short-term type, as far as I am concerned. It's the type you feel when you're infatuated with someone. But the real love is more than that. When someone has all of those qualities, I don't expect to automatically fall in love, but I do believe that as we grow fond of each other, the true love naturally takes its place . . . the everlasting type, you know. Oh God, that was a difficult question!
 

Noriaki

Lifer
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Originally posted by: luvly
Good question, Go Punk. I mean . . . I came close to that situation . . . but I'll worry about it when it actually happens. Aaah! Actually, I think that the two go together. For me, love isn't just feelings . . . it's respect too and friendship. The whole indescribable love people speak of is the short-term type, as far as I am concerned. It's the type you feel when you're infatuated with someone. But the real love is more than that. When someone has all of those qualities, I don't expect to automatically fall in love, but I do believe that as we grow fond of each other, the true love naturally takes its place . . . the everlasting type, you know. Oh God, that was a difficult question!

I think you answered it quite well
 

frizzlefry

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May 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: frizzlefry
Originally posted by: weezergirl
What characteristics do you look for in "the one"?

you? eh, you know.

And all this time I thought you liked me!!


: ) Amanda

shhh you're supposed to keep that between us... and why's he having so much w/ the camera?
 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: frizzlefry
Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: frizzlefry
Originally posted by: weezergirl
What characteristics do you look for in "the one"?

you? eh, you know.

And all this time I thought you liked me!!


: ) Amanda

shhh you're supposed to keep that between us... and why's he having so much w/ the camera?

Hahahahahaha!!

What is he having with the camera?


: ) Amanda
 

weezergirl

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whoa, didn't know some more was added to this thread!! interesting replies, definitely some stuff i hadn't thought of before but would like to add to my list.
 

frizzlefry

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Originally posted by: ohtwell

shhh you're supposed to keep that between us... and why's he having so much w/ the camera?

Hahahahahaha!!

What is he having with the camera?


: ) Amanda[/quote]

sex?
 

frizzlefry

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Originally posted by: weezergirl
whoa, didn't know some more was added to this thread!! interesting replies, definitely some stuff i hadn't thought of before but would like to add to my list.

there's nothing new. i'm like the perfect guy... minus a couple things
 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: frizzlefry
Originally posted by: ohtwell

shhh you're supposed to keep that between us... and why's he having so much w/ the camera?

Hahahahahaha!!

What is he having with the camera?


: ) Amanda

sex?[/quote]
I don't know! You are the one that made the comment with a word missing. I was just asking what that word was supposed to be.


: ) Amanda
 

frizzlefry

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I don't know! You are the one that made the comment with a word missing. I was just asking what that word was supposed to be.

: ) Amanda

oh i thought you would know tho... isn't he with you?

 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: frizzlefry
I don't know! You are the one that made the comment with a word missing. I was just asking what that word was supposed to be.

: ) Amanda

oh i thought you would know tho... isn't he with you?

No, he's at work!


: ) Amanda
 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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How could you forget or schedule!! I thought I was important to you. I see how it is.

I'll just ask him what the deal with the camera is.


: ) Amanda
 

frizzlefry

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
How could you forget or schedule!! I thought I was important to you. I see how it is.

I'll just ask him what the deal with the camera is.


: ) Amanda

oh i'm soooo sorry! let me make it up to you... since he's at work..
 
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