My E4300 (2808MHz) is idling at ~48ºC with an AC Freezer 7 Pro

[Kromis]

I'm asking because it doesn't seem right. Everyone else seems to be getting lower temps than me for some reason...

Also, when I was placing my heatsink on my CPU, I pressed and locked it into place when I realized that the fan was facing the wrong way (facing the top exhaust of my P180). So it took me a while to get it out and MAYBE some of the paste on the CPU dried...

So yeah...

BTW, Core Temp says it idles at ~44ºC but TAT says ~48ºC (Which is what I'm getting my temperature off of)

Voltage is 1.35

 

[AmberClad]

What type of thermal paste? How did you apply it (drop in the middle or spread all around)? Is the case being cooled adequately?

 

[Fallengod]

Hey man. Im with you. I just got my abit quadgt and E6400 together. I also have a P180 case.

My temps right now at IDLE with stock cooler at stock volts and speeds(2.13ghz/1.325v) are 50C currently. Its funny cause some people tell me my temps are fine and others tell me something is wrong.

It is also odd cause I have used 4 programs and almost all give me different temps and/or volt readings.

Speedfan reports my temps at 51C/48C with 1.62v. This is clearly wrong for volts since they are at 1.325 in bios.

CPU-Z reports my volts at 1.213v, which is also clearly wrong.

Coretemp reports my temps at 51C/48C as well with 1.3250v. The first program I believe to actually show the correct voltage.

ABIT UGURU reports my CPU temps at 43C idle(which seems wrong to me since there are 2 cores which are often different temps, how do they come to a one temp conclusion) with 1.31v.


So the question becomes, which do you trust lol. I would think Speedfan and Coretemp would be accurate since they are both the same. However, youd think ABITs OWN software (UGURU) would be accurate since its from their own mobo. They have 43C idle, so wtf!

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
What type of thermal paste? How did you apply it (drop in the middle or spread all around)? Is the case being cooled adequately?

I didn't apply anything. The heatsink already came with paste (MX-1 or something like that, I believe)

 

[Xvys]

Fallengod: I would say SpeedFan and CoreTemp are reading your cpu cores. Uguru is reporting your cpu bridge temperature, not the cores, so it will be cooler. CPU-Z seems to have some bug or other with the voltage is displayed at 1.213v when you overclock... I think everybody gets that. Another popular program, Intel's TAT also reads the core temps, but on many systems reads 2 to 4 degrees higher than CoreTemp.

 

[kurt454]

This temperature guide will help clear up some confusion on temp monitoring Intel C2D cpus.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Fallengod
Speedfan reports my temps at 51C/48C with 1.62v. This is clearly wrong for volts since they are at 1.325 in bios.

CPU-Z reports my volts at 1.213v, which is also clearly wrong.

Coretemp reports my temps at 51C/48C as well with 1.3250v. The first program I believe to actually show the correct voltage.

ABIT UGURU reports my CPU temps at 43C idle(which seems wrong to me since there are 2 cores which are often different temps, how do they come to a one temp conclusion) with 1.31v.

CPUz reports wrong voltages once you go above a certain voltage so speedfan may infact be correct. Is it in the BIOS hardware monitor that you are reading the 1.325v or is that just what it's set to in the BIOS?

The 1.325v in Coretemp doesn't mean anything.

 

[UF Matt]

Stock cooling on e4300 @2.4 and I'm idling in the low 40s. @2.7 it wasn't much higher.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: UF Matt
Stock cooling on e4300 @2.4 and I'm idling in the low 40s. @2.7 it wasn't much higher.

Wow...

I guess I better reseat my thing...

 

[utfrodo54]

I too have done the reseat on the HSF, since as5 came in the mail.

followed the online instructions (hadn't built a comp since the amd tbred days) and noticed that instead of the thin layer everywhere, u do the dab in the middle in the direction of the cores.

I'm getting 44-45C roughly on idle on TAT, but figured it should be still a bit lower? 2.4ghz o/c on gigabyte ds3 v1.3 antec p180 w/ roommates who want our bachelor pad to rival alaskan igloos. im not complaining or anything, but wondering if its truely lower than the readouts.

edit: speedfan has 28C and 29C on the cores...???

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: utfrodo54
I too have done the reseat on the HSF, since as5 came in the mail.

followed the online instructions (hadn't built a comp since the amd tbred days) and noticed that instead of the thin layer everywhere, u do the dab in the middle in the direction of the cores.

I'm getting 44-45C roughly on idle on TAT, but figured it should be still a bit lower? 2.4ghz o/c on gigabyte ds3 v1.3 antec p180 w/ roommates who want our bachelor pad to rival alaskan igloos. im not complaining or anything, but wondering if its truely lower than the readouts.

edit: speedfan has 28C and 29C on the cores...???

Damn...

That is some weird ass shiz! :|

Oh well...

 

[Johnny Nuge]

Sounds like your Arctic Cooler 7 may not be securely fastened to the cpu and motherboard. I have my E4300 overclocked to 3.0Ghz on stock voltage, and was also getting 50 degrees idle and 70+ degrees on Orthos. I had to undo and redo it like 5 or 6 times, because every time I pushed down on the last clip it would miss the hole and get bent. When I finally did it correctly, I was idling at around 30 degrees. Just make sure you can't budge the heatsink once it's fastened and you should be alright.

 

[aurareturn]

Originally posted by: utfrodo54
I too have done the reseat on the HSF, since as5 came in the mail.

followed the online instructions (hadn't built a comp since the amd tbred days) and noticed that instead of the thin layer everywhere, u do the dab in the middle in the direction of the cores.

I'm getting 44-45C roughly on idle on TAT, but figured it should be still a bit lower? 2.4ghz o/c on gigabyte ds3 v1.3 antec p180 w/ roommates who want our bachelor pad to rival alaskan igloos. im not complaining or anything, but wondering if its truely lower than the readouts.

edit: speedfan has 28C and 29C on the cores...???

Download the latest version of Speedfan.

 

[Jules]

i idle at around 42-43c at 3ghz on my e6300.

 

[utfrodo54]

Originally posted by: aurareturn

Originally posted by: utfrodo54
I too have done the reseat on the HSF, since as5 came in the mail.

followed the online instructions (hadn't built a comp since the amd tbred days) and noticed that instead of the thin layer everywhere, u do the dab in the middle in the direction of the cores.

I'm getting 44-45C roughly on idle on TAT, but figured it should be still a bit lower? 2.4ghz o/c on gigabyte ds3 v1.3 antec p180 w/ roommates who want our bachelor pad to rival alaskan igloos. im not complaining or anything, but wondering if its truely lower than the readouts.

edit: speedfan has 28C and 29C on the cores...???

Download the latest version of Speedfan.

4.32 is what i got from the website.

 

[Screwballl]

another thing to look at is room temps...
In my computer room it is typically 80-85ºF so my E6600 sitting under a Scythe Ninja Rev2 runs at ~35ºC idle and 53-55ºC load
If the room temp cools off say at night with the AC still on then with the ambient room temp of 70ºF, idle only drops to 32-34ºC and load sits around 46-50ºC

to me the high temp means that your HSF is not tightened down properly and also that heatsink goop that comes with it is inferior for long term use, get some Arctic silver.

 

[kurt454]

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: aurareturn

Originally posted by: utfrodo54
I too have done the reseat on the HSF, since as5 came in the mail.

followed the online instructions (hadn't built a comp since the amd tbred days) and noticed that instead of the thin layer everywhere, u do the dab in the middle in the direction of the cores.

I'm getting 44-45C roughly on idle on TAT, but figured it should be still a bit lower? 2.4ghz o/c on gigabyte ds3 v1.3 antec p180 w/ roommates who want our bachelor pad to rival alaskan igloos. im not complaining or anything, but wondering if its truely lower than the readouts.

edit: speedfan has 28C and 29C on the cores...???

Download the latest version of Speedfan.

4.32 is what i got from the website.

Speedfan's Core Temp readings require a +15c offset on C2D procs. That would then read 43 and 44C.

 

[ss284]

My e6400 at 3.2 ghz idles at 45C or so. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: ss284
My e6400 at 3.2 ghz idles at 45C or so. You have nothing to worry about.

Thats a relief!

 

[nikkai]

I have a similiar question... Any help would be great:

I have a rev A scythe fan - first time doing a build

I installed it onto an e4300 board, used arctic silver 5 and its on a 965-ds3 rev 1.3.

My question is this:

On TAT my numbers are:

Core 0: 38
Core 1: 40

Stressed 100%:

Core 0: 55
Core 1: 58

I'm pretty disappointed with the numbers since this is before any overclocking whatsoever.

Vcore1: 1.18v
Vcore2: 1.81V
from Speedfan


But my question is - did I mount the scythe wrong? I popped open the case after I pressed start on TAT and felt the scythe and it's cool to touch.

Is there a break in period I need to wait for?

Thanks for the help.

btw: This is in an Antec P150 case and the scythe has a 120mm yat loon fan on it and exhausting out of the case is another 120mm fan. Interesting to note - both fans hooked to the MB but do not increase in speed (to my ear) when stress test begins.

I guess I was expecting this type of performance.

Any help in this matter would be appreciated. I guess the last ditch thing is to relap the heatsink - but man, I wish I didn't have to take the entire DS3 board out to get to the scythe.

 

[JeffreyY]

nikkai, from what I've read the IHS on the E4300 is attached with thermal grease and not soldered on like it is in the e6xxx and this results in higher temperatures. I have a similar issue with my chip with a Thermalright Ultra 120. At 3.15Ghz I'm hitting close to 70C in TAT. People have recorded >10C drops in temperatures after removing the IHS but it requires quite a bit of modding to get your heatsink to fit properly so I have no attempted it. I have remounted my Ultra 120 over 5 times with varying amounts of thermal grease and trying ceramique vs AS5 and nothing changed the outcome much. I decided to blame it on the way the IHS is mounted to the chip. :/ My heatsink also feels pretty cool to the touch when the CPU is under load so my only guess is that the heat is not being properly transferred to the IHS and to the heatsink. This is all speculation from the reading I've done about this subject so if anybody has more accurate information feel free to correct me.

 

[Jinru]

I just put my new rig together last night with a E4300 on stock heatsink. With stock volts it idles around 40-43ºc but with Intel Thermal Analysis Tool 100% stress it goes as high as 68ºc! Is a fluctuation of nearly 20 degrees normal or do I have to wait for the AS5 to set in before the load temps drop?

Edit: I applied the AS5 with a line down the middle of the core, but from the instructions on artic silver I wasn't sure if you were suppose to leave it like that or spread the paste around. Thinking back to my AMD Athlon rig it didn't seem normal to have just that line of paste so I decided to spread it evenly on the IHS, lol. Think theres a difference in temps between spreading and the line?

 

[JeffreyY]

I believe AS5 takes 200 hours to fully cure but the drops shouldn't be that significant... maybe 2-3 degrees. Those temps seem high for stock. :/

 

[SerpentRoyal]

E4300 with 1.475Vcore (3.42GHz core speed), Big Typhoon, and 80F room temp. I rely on RMClock for my CPU temperature.

IDE:
-RMClock...28C
-TAT...43C

Orthos (Large mode):
-RMClock...63C
-TAT...77C

TAT (100% load):
-RMClock...72C
-TAT...87C

TAT measures the core temp at each CPU core. RMClock displays the average CPU temperature. I tend to suspect that RMClock is closer to the true CPU temperature. Most C2D chips should begin to throttle around 85C, with a few quad cores at 100C. Since my CPU did not throttle with TAT @ 89C, I have to trust RMClock.

Perhaps others could confirm that their 4300s did not throttle with TAT above 85C.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: JeffreyY
nikkai, from what I've read the IHS on the E4300 is attached with thermal grease and not soldered on like it is in the e6xxx and this results in higher temperatures. I have a similar issue with my chip with a Thermalright Ultra 120. At 3.15Ghz I'm hitting close to 70C in TAT. People have recorded >10C drops in temperatures after removing the IHS but it requires quite a bit of modding to get your heatsink to fit properly so I have no attempted it. I have remounted my Ultra 120 over 5 times with varying amounts of thermal grease and trying ceramique vs AS5 and nothing changed the outcome much. I decided to blame it on the way the IHS is mounted to the chip. :/ My heatsink also feels pretty cool to the touch when the CPU is under load so my only guess is that the heat is not being properly transferred to the IHS and to the heatsink. This is all speculation from the reading I've done about this subject so if anybody has more accurate information feel free to correct me.

Any idea if this is the case with the other Allendale models?