My experience with a 2600XT

rogue1979

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$59 for a Palit 2600XT Super 512MB PCI-e, what the heck, great for a third machine.

It went in a socket 939 3600+ @ 2.6GHz, my other two rigs are C2D's both on Gigabyte P31-SG3 @ 3GHz+ with 9600 GT's.

So mostly out of curiosity, I wanted to see just how much bang for the buck I could get for just a few $'s.

First off the stock cooler was not very efficient, hitting 70c under full load in a cool case.
Put an extra Zalman VF700 on it that I had laying around unused, 58c under full load, problem solved.

Tried a half dozen or so Catalyst drivers, and the 8.4 seemed to work pretty good. The CCC is annoying, it takes time to load up and when I checked Revo uninstaller it showed like 5 entries! So uninstalled the CCC and used ATI tray tools. The whole OS was a little more responsive after getting rid of the bloatware, just as bad as Nvidia ntune in my opinion.

Used the amdgpu overclock utility, Rivatuner, Atitools, or several others could not set the clock speeds on the 2600 XT. The bloated CCC only allowed for 850/750 max, the stock clocks were 800/700 (1400MHz DDR). I've heard the core has a lock at 859Mhz, which seems true because amdgpu would not set the core clock any higher. Max stable at 859/1750. Got rid of the amdgpu junk and flashed the bios to those speeds, as well as changing the fan settings. Tried flashing the core over 859Mhz and the card freaked in Windows XP, but booted to the bios menu no problem, so looks like there is some kind of lock on the core for sure.

The two hardest games I play are GRAW2 and COD4. On GRAW2 I used 2X AA and 8X AF at 1152 x 864 with all detail on high. Framerates stay in the 30-45fps range, with maybe a dip in the high 20's occasionaly. Nothing compared to my 9600GT rigs of course, but without obsessing on the fps counter the game played smoothly with no stutters or slow downs.

COD4 was played at 2X AA and 8X AF at 1024 x 768 with all detail on high. It couldn't quite cut the mustard at 1152 x 864. But framerates at 1024 x 768 were in the low 40's never dropping below 30fps.

I still play many older games, NFS Porsche Unleashed, Mech Warrior 4, Unreal 2003 and 2004 and many others. It played all these beautifully, of course framerates where much higher in these older games, gpu power was not part of the equation. In comparison an 8600GT OC I was playing with had major issues with the Unreal 2 engine in WinXP, and the driver had to be modded to allow more resolution options in these same older games.

Bottom line, I had fun gaming with 2600XT, it did everything I needed it to and more.
It has found a home in my third rig.

No, it's not anywhere as fast as my 9600GT rigs, but it got the job done and managed to play smoothly at what I asked it to do and looked good doing it. For $59 I was both surprised and impressed. Not quite as fast as the 8600GT OC, but close and it worked in every game I tried with no issues.





 

panfist

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Why did you buy last-gen tech when you can get a 3650 for under $50 after MIR? It will perform about the same, or better, and use less power.
 

rogue1979

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$59 upfront with no rebates is dirt cheap. From what I have read the 2600XT is slightly ahead of the 3650 in performance, but probably not enough to make much difference.

It probably would have worked just as well.
 

s44

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Originally posted by: panfist
Why did you buy last-gen tech when you can get a 3650 for under $50 after MIR? It will perform about the same, or better, and use less power.
Most 3650s, certainly all the super-cheap ones, use GDDR2. They're slower and no more advanced than the 2600XT.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: s44
Originally posted by: panfist
Why did you buy last-gen tech when you can get a 3650 for under $50 after MIR? It will perform about the same, or better, and use less power.
Most 3650s, certainly all the super-cheap ones, use GDDR2. They're slower and no more advanced than the 2600XT.



even the gddr3 3650s are no different than the 2600XT . they are actually clocked slightly lower 725 core and 1600 memory, vs 2600xt at 800 core and 1600 memory.

the 3650 is just a die shrink nothing else running at lower clocks..so even its gddr3 version is slower at stock speeds. its only real advantage is it uses less power.
 

wbynum

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$60 for the 2600XT is pushing it. The 8800gt 256meg card has been as low as $70 + shipping AR. Much better deal.
 

mruffin75

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A lot of people hate rebates, and would rather purchase a product that doesn't have one. I thought that was crazy as I used to love rebates, but not anymore...I've had way too many times when the rebate company will screw up the rebate and you have to spend days trying to sort out their mess..

I've had several times when a rebate company will not do a thing with your rebate until you call them complaining about where your rebate is. I've had one even where the rebate just never ever got to me and the rebate company said "tough, it's been too long ago now" (thanks Soyo.. no more purchases from you...ever)..

And just now...there was a $200 rebate on HP CLJ 2600n printers, and I'm fighting with HP's rebate company over that.. *apparently* they were waiting for me to send in my invoice... unfortunately it was sent electronically *with* the rebate application (their answer was "uh.. do you have a fax?").

In regards to the 2600XT, sounds pretty good... might need to get one to replace a X1600 Pro I have..
 

wbynum

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Yep, every now and then you have to deal with the hassle of fighting for your rebate. For the most part it isn't that bad as long as you follow the rebate terms exactly and use some common sense. For example, I saw one guy post in the hot deals complaining about a rebate being rejected because he printed the invoice on the back of the rebate form. That is just foolish.

To each his own with rebates. I actually do them and the resale of the items on ebay as somewhat of a hobby. As an example, I've currently got 8 of the Tivo boxes that were FAR. They will be hitting ebay once the rebates come in. As for the Diamond 2600xt card, a $30 savings AR over the original posters price is definately worth it to me. Of course, I used the $25 off $75 GCO coupon to make the card $5.
 

rogue1979

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Originally posted by: wbynum
$60 for the 2600XT is pushing it. The 8800gt 256meg card has been as low as $70 + shipping AR. Much better deal.

That is a great deal, but one problem. Nvidia 8xxx has a big stutter issue with Unreal 2 engine based games in XP. Originally it was screwed up in Vista too, but that was fixed. After multiple driver releases it still stutters bad in XP.

I still play UT2003 and UT2004. The 9600GT plays them just fine.

Sold my 8600GT for $67 bucks locally, so the 2600 XT was paid for completely including shipping. Free isn't a bad price at all!

2600 XT had a couple of crashes, so lowered the core to 850 and raised the bios voltage from 1.2v to 1.25v. Running rock solid now.

 

panfist

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How could the 8xxx series, in general, stutter in Unreal 2 games when the 9600GT is basically the same as the 8800GT?

I could understand if there were issues with the old G80s, because the hardware is different, but a G92 is a G92; if it works on the 9600GT it should should work just as well on any other G92.
 

rogue1979

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It's a G80/84 issue, G92 seems fine, I should've have mentioned that. Guess the 8800GT is G92, was thinking of the original 8800GTS.

There has been numerous ongoing threads in various forums for almost 2 years.

Maybe BFG10K will comment on this, he knows alot about it.
 
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