My first win8 experience

[Berryracer]

Exactly,some users make a mountain out of a mole hill, personally Metro is better in some ways ie I can fit more stuff/programs on the whole screen,old start menu is limit due you can only pin so many applications to it ,I could also point out its terrible for touch devices being too small,Win8 way is more versatile for more hardware etc..


End of the day some users will never be happy and always try to resist anything new or different,get over it since the old start button menu days are numbered.

Roll on Win9 with improved Metro or whatever new UI and hopefully death of the old start button menu from Win95 to Win7 RIP.

I cannot live without having a start menu to easily access my documents, pics, music, videos

Hence, why I need to always have that StartIsBack

 

[paul878]

Please try a Linux distro. I guarantee you'll take a hammer to your PC within an hour.

I would pick Linux over Windows 8 any day!
Windows 8 is just too unproductive to use..

 

[Zaap]

would you please share your wallpaper?

Just drop it into google images.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/OrcPom5r6vU/maxresdefault.jpg

 

[Berryracer]

thanks bro

 

[showb1z]

Sorry, this doesn't make sense and just indicates you're another person that never learned how to use the start menu.

Well since everyone who has an another way of doing this is wrong apparently... Are you gonna teach us plebs how to properly use this paragon of efficiency and design that is the start menu or what? I haven't used it for anything but search since Win7, so I'm honestly intrigued about what I've been missing out on.

I cannot live without having a start menu to easily access my documents, pics, music, videos

I pin those on the explorer tab on my taskbar, same thing.

 

[PingSpike]

It returns the start button... but the start button takes you to the start screen not the start menu many had hoped for.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/06/28

 

[Zaap]

Well since everyone who has an another way of doing this is wrong apparently... Are you gonna teach us plebs how to properly use this paragon of efficiency and design that is the start menu or what? I haven't used it for anything but search since Win7, so I'm honestly intrigued about what I've been missing out on.

I love this. You admit you haven't actually USED the start menu, yet you're an expert on how everyone else shouldn't be using it. Exactly as charged. Go learn how to use the OS before mouthing off incessantly.

 

[XiandreX]

I use Classic shell for Windows 8 pro 64bit and it fixed most ui issues for me. The other help is to change the default programs for opening stuff like pics, videos and music. Do that and your windows 8 experience will be far nicer. Thats just my opinion though.

 

[Mem]

I cannot live without having a start menu to easily access my documents, pics, music, videos

Hence, why I need to always have that StartIsBack

Plenty of ways to do that ie pin them to taskbar,shortcut on old desktop UI,have them in Win+X menu or new Metro column/columns(plenty of space there for that on Metro Start screen) or tiles of your choosing and naming.


I sent you a PM about my wallpaper link,hope it helps.

End of the day I adapt the OS to my needs and make it work for me regardless of Linux,Windows or any version.

 

[Mem]

I would pick Linux over Windows 8 any day!
Windows 8 is just too unproductive to use..

I would pick Linux over ANY Windows period,its mainly gaming that I need Windows for.

 

[darkewaffle]

Sorry, this doesn't make sense and just indicates you're another person that never learned how to use the start menu. It's akin to asking, "well if the speedometer on your car doesn't take up a lot of space- instead of taking up the entire dash- then why use it at all?"

You're missing the idea here. If your start menu is small (aka: has few shortcuts/programs/etc), that means there isn't much you actually access with it; if it's not there, you can't get to it through there after all. And if that is the case, I think it stands to reason that you would be better served by taking those few important objects and putting there in a more immediately accessible location, such as the desktop or taskbar. You are correct in that I don't see the use for the Start Menu unless you have a lot of items in it, in which case it still requires large amounts of screen real estate and, imo, the Start Screen trades more screen real estate for improved organization.

The key here is in your opinion of course. Sorry, but no, having a desktop cluttered with shortcuts in place of a start menu is NOT more efficient than a logical start menu. It should be sort of a clue to you that 'your opinion' and your preference does not equal any sort of 'law of computing' as to what's a universally more efficient way to do something. That you prefer desktop shortcuts is fine, but it makes little sense to merge that with some false proclamation about the start menu.

In WinXP, opening a program through the start menu requires 5-10 mouse actions if you count each 'movement' and 'click'. In Win7, it's a little bit more organized and probably 4-8 is more accurate. An item on your desktop or taskbar is accessed in as little as 2-3, depends if you count a doubleclick as one or two; the start screen would probably rate about a 3-4 depending if you use the corner or the Windows key.

If you prefer to use your desktop as a "canvas", that's your opinion of course, but for most cases you're introducing inefficiency (at least in terms of mouse usage) by not using it as actual workspace for shortcuts. Clutter is only a matter of putting a minute or two into organizing it.

In my opinion, the start menu is only useful/needed to access programs I use, say, less than once per month: a PDF editor, alternate browsers, malware scans, odds and ends 'utility' programs. Anything used more regularly than that I'm going to give a more immediately accessible route.

 

[Zaap]

You're missing the idea here. If your start menu is small (aka: has few shortcuts/programs/etc), that means there isn't much you actually access with it;

All you're doing is continuing to prove you don't know how to use the start menu.

I've had enough of you two. Go get a room or stop this passive-aggressive back and forth.
-ViRGE

 

[showb1z]

I love this. You admit you haven't actually USED the start menu

Thanks for your concern, pretty sure I've used the start menu extensively in '95, '98, '98SE, XP, even Me for a couple weeks.

yet you're an expert on how everyone else shouldn't be using it. Exactly as charged. Go learn how to use the OS before mouthing off incessantly.

Stop making crap up, I couldn't care less if someone wants to flip their screen upside down and unplug their mouse cause they like it better that way.
If you're going to pass off your opinion as fact just to mindlessly bash something you're going to get called out on it though. Three times I've asked what you use the start menu for, no answer but trolling.
But keep on telling everyone with a different opinion that they don't know how to use Windows, killer argument you got there.

 

[Zaap]

I haven't used it for anything but search

Who's lying again?

Yeah I know, I'm not supposed to point it out. Whatever.

 

[Blueychan]

I would pick Linux over Windows 8 any day!
Windows 8 is just too unproductive to use..

Another asinine statement...

 

[CRCSUX]

Who's lying again?

Yeah I know, I'm not supposed to point it out. Whatever.

You could make a fortune as a cherry picker

I think the most important think is to keep an open mind, most complaints ive heard is hearsay on hearsay. I seem to be able to evolve to cope with windows 8 (stock) and even excel in it.

I spend about 1 second every week in metro, how could I possibly complain about that?

Change your default programs and maybe add a few things to the power user menu and its faster than win 7.

"windows 8 sucks" I hear that one alot, not from ppl who use it either.
I guess they are the same ppl who say "Iphone is better" yet have no clue as to why.

 

[SlickR12345]

Its quite good on tablets, there was a presentation about 6 months ago about some hardware, software that I went at and tried out win8 tablet there and it was fairly good, very intuitive and easy to do.

Then I tried it out on desktop and it took me 20 minutes to find the sort of start button like menu, though it was so different that I couldn't use it to easily and fastly open certain windows, programs or folders, of course that is after I was shown by the staff how to get out of the tablet view crap that popped up.

I'd say its a lot less intuitive, a lot less ergonomic, a lots slower to work on compared to say win7 or XP, and in other things its basically a win7 with a bit faster performance on the surface like opening programs and doing basic stuff, but a lot slower when doing heavy threaded stuff like encoding, decoding, zipping, etc...

 

[bgt]

First impression of Windows 8 was.......wow. This looks so much friendlier than the oldschool windows 7 stylish start button. Very intuitive OS. Especially with a touch screen on a laptop. The OS is also much faster in everything you do on it. Brilliant move of MS.

 

[C1]

"windows 8 sucks" I hear that one alot, not from ppl who use it either. I guess they are the same ppl who say "Iphone is better" yet have no clue as to hy.

Hmmmm .....

Does not jive with the purchaser/owner and hence user reviews and ratings provided on NEWEGG for WIN HATE.

 

[CRCSUX]

Hmmmm .....

Does not jive with the purchaser/owner and hence user reviews and ratings provided on NEWEGG for WIN HATE.

But how many ppl got win 8 from newegg and liked it and wrote a review? Im guessing most that liked it got on with what they wanted to do and the ppl who didnt like it wrote reviews.

Now im not saying win 8 is perfect, im just saying I havnt found a flaw yet
(or I have and forgotten it)

 

[WilliamM2]

But how many ppl got win 8 from newegg and liked it and wrote a review? Im guessing most that liked it got on with what they wanted to do and the ppl who didnt like it wrote reviews.

So why are the ratings so high for Windows 7, if happy users don't write reviews?

 

[CRCSUX]

So why are the ratings so high for Windows 7, if happy users don't write reviews?

I had a very quick look and it seems like a lot of them are written after win 8 came out, So id guess they first wrote a bad review for win 8 then popped over to win 7 to write a good review.

3 out of 5, 5egg reviews on the first page contained the words windows 8 in the review for win 7.

Sounds a little bitter.

 

[balloonshark]

Do you know what drives me nuts after a month of using Windows 8? I keep wanting to go to the left side of the screen to shut down or restart. I wish I could swap sides with the corner menu thingamajigs.

I also wish metro was more customizable. Actually, it is inexcusable for it not being more customizable. I want to make the tiles even smaller to fit more programs on one screen.

 

[mav451]

I gave Win8 a chance and for the most part it's been smooth-sailing.
Creating a short-cut to do a single-button shutdown is pretty ridiculous, but the Explorer/Task Manager improvements are huge in their own right.

I agree on the tile size and the corner stuff. Since 8.1 is introducing a quarter size (1/4 of current smallest size), that shouldn't be an issue now haha. I changed default photo-viewer to Irfan first chance I got - but I already did that on 7/XP too, so nothing new there. Having to swipe down to close full-apps is a bit weird, but hey - people learned to use Office pre and post-Ribbon. *Oops, WinX menu also adds Shutdown and restart in 8.1. TBH, I had no idea you could 'right-click' in the bottom left corner, as this is already in the current Win8 - guess I'm still learning

In the end, I have no desire to return to the older 7

*Some more background - I used to drag all my folder shortcuts to fit in the 'Links' panel in XP, but that duty was eventually fulfilled by dragging shortcuts to "Favorites" in 7. I still do the same in 8 as well hah. Ditto with pinning to Start Menu in 7 - now it's pinned to the Start Screen in 8.

 

[blankslate]

Exactly,some users make a mountain out of a mole hill, personally

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The key word is personally...

What is a molehill for you is in fact a mountain for some other users... maybe a lot actually considering the amount of tech hobbyists who seem to know about the startmenu replacements for windows 8.

It works for you and that's great but some other people prefer the way they're used to working with an MS OS they way it worked in general for 10+ years.