My GeForce FX 5600

[Ketchup]

I'm not surprised. You talk big in a public forum, but you are afraid to you PM me. How ironic.

 

[nRollo]

Sigh. PM it is.

 

[MulLa]

I am not sure if it is the case in the US. Down here in Australia I do notice that stores with good return policy like "100% cash back for whatever reason" will tend to be more expensive than the stores that have more reasonable policy like "100% cash back if found to be defective". Expenses are incurred to process returns and they have to be paid for by us in the end.

What if I were to go out and buy a car and try to return it the next day because I don't like the colour anymore?

 

[Tigris]

Well, I decided to bring a post to some people that are supposed to know something about video cards, not professional idiots, so I guess I posted in the wrong place.

Rollo, in a RETURN POLICY it is stated you are ALLOWED TO RETURN something if you dont like how it performs.
I have not overclocked the card at all. I tried to, it didnt work.
The reason I tried to was because I was dissapointed with the card and maybe overclocking would make it run as fast as it was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO.

I've worked retail for years, and my company, with its 1300 retail outlets, lets people return items, without any restock fee, just because they dont like it.
its in our policy.
and its in the company's policy I bought it from.
If your telling the company who wrote the policy they wrote it wrong,
you have no room to say that.

So thank you for sharing your opinion which never really did matter, or apply.

I was curious if the performance sucked across the board.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: MulLa
I am not sure if it is the case in the US. Down here in Australia I do notice that stores with good return policy like "100% cash back for whatever reason" will tend to be more expensive than the stores that have more reasonable policy like "100% cash back if found to be defective". Expenses are incurred to process returns and they have to be paid for by us in the end.

What if I were to go out and buy a car and try to return it the next day because I don't like the colour anymore?

In my state you have 3 days grace to bow out of ANY contract.

 

[Insidious]

I generally assume a retailer means it when they say stuff like "100% satisfaction gauranteed".

For example, I thought my soundcard was giving me trouble.... I bought a new/different one....found out my original card was fine.

So, I took the 'new' card back to BB and told them the situation. they checked my receipt... less than 14 days..... smiled, gave me 100% of my

money back and told me to have a nice day.

You self-righteous jerks need to stfu and quit making AT look like some kind of THG clone..... It's not... take yer cr@p elsewhere.

love,

-Sid

 

[nRollo]

Tigris:

I have not overclocked the card at all. I tried to, it didnt work.
The reason I tried to was because I was dissapointed with the card and maybe overclocking would make it run as fast as it was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO.

Of course, if it would have given you the performance YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR, you would have kept it. As far as "maybe overclocking would make it run as fast as it was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO"
goes, gee, I wasn't aware you had to overclock a video card to make it run as fast as it is designated to go! Maybe you should email the companies to change all the installation instructions to include
"download OCing utility. OC card till it's as fast as you think it should be"

Sure thing.

Insidious:
"You self-righteous jerks need to stfu and quit making AT look like some kind of THG clone"
Maybe you should find Al Quaeda and join up with them so you can tell people who don't agree with your opinion they shouldn't talk all the time. Here in AMERICA, where we have the FIRST AMENDMENT,
we get to speak our mind pretty much as we please.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Tigris:

I have not overclocked the card at all. I tried to, it didnt work.
The reason I tried to was because I was dissapointed with the card and maybe overclocking would make it run as fast as it was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO.

Of course, if it would have given you the performance YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR, you would have kept it. As far as "maybe overclocking would make it run as fast as it was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO"
goes, gee, I wasn't aware you had to overclock a video card to make it run as fast as it is designated to go! Maybe you should email the companies to change all the installation instructions to include
"download OCing utility. OC card till it's as fast as you think it should be"

Sure thing.

Insidious:
"You self-righteous jerks need to stfu and quit making AT look like some kind of THG clone"
Maybe you should find Al Quaeda and join up with them so you can tell people who don't agree with your opinion they shouldn't talk all the time. Here in AMERICA, where we have the FIRST AMENDMENT,
we get to speak our mind pretty much as we please.

Har, rollo shows us all the worst side of being an american.

edit, sometimes being able to say exactly what you want aint a good thing so ill keep it to myself

 

[nRollo]

Har, rollo shows us all the worst side of being an american.

Shrewd insight there nutxo. Thinking it's wrong to return VGAs because they won't OC is right up there with drug addiction, white collar criminals depleting retirement accounts, murder, rape, pedophilia,
gangs, and all the other "worst" problems of America.
I'll probably be the subject of social work studies, documentaries, and legislation by the end of the week. I can see it now:
"Man objects to deliberate misuse of return policies- are your children safe?" and "Must "Freedom of Speech" end so OCers are safe from Rollo's chiding?"

Sure.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I had to check the forum again, thought I stumbled into OT with all the flames and personal attacks :disgust: Mods need to lock this one....

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Har, rollo shows us all the worst side of being an american.

Shrewd insight there nutxo. Thinking it's wrong to return VGAs because they won't OC is right up there with drug addiction, white collar criminals depleting retirement accounts, murder, rape, pedophilia,
gangs, and all the other "worst" problems of America.
I'll probably be the subject of social work studies, documentaries, and legislation by the end of the week. I can see it now:
"Man objects to deliberate misuse of return policies- are your children safe?" and "Must "Freedom of Speech" end so OCers are safe from Rollo's chiding?"

Sure.

you crack me up.

You think this is the United States. Its not , its anandtech. Freedom of speech goes so far here and then ya get banned. Keep flaming every thread. Ive seen it happen. This is a video forum. Not a soapbox and no one here really cares what you think.


Yer just a squirrel lookin fer a nut.

 

[FluxCap]

You paid the money, you are the consumer. Get a new card that you are happier with. Easy deal.

 

[CraigRT]

5600 cards = poopoo

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Rollo
Nutxo:

he didnt say it, i did

Nope. He said it.

I wonder what the speed is of the ultra boards, and if it is signifigantly higher at all, I think I might return my 5600 board and grab an Ultra from somewhere.

So what do you think happens when he returns his $160 VGA Nutxo?
The store he returns it to has to pay someone to process his return (talk to Tigris/test card/ restock as "open box" or send to manufacturer) increasing their labor cost.
If they sell it again as "open box" , they make less money on it than they did the first time, but they still have to pay someone to process the sale again, increasing their cost of labor.
Where do you think businesses recover increased costs? From Tigris? Nah.
From guys like you and me. They add restock fees, make profit margin higher to cover increased cost of doing business, etc..

So am I happy when I read about guys buying cards and returning them until they get one that performs better than what they paid for? No. You shouldn't be either. All my VGAs cost $300- $500, and they might cost me a little less if all the guys in the world who "buy" stuff to see if they can get something for nothing would stop and remove that overhead from business.

Wow, you may know a lot, but you know squat about retail, 90% of the stores out there test em, throw em back in the box and reshrink em. I know this firsthand. Did ya know that quite often parts that exhibit intermitent problems are resold? Did ya know that companies liek logitech knowingly sell 1000s upon 100s of defective speakers?

Whos the bad guy here? Joe shmoe that makes 8 bucks an hour to save for some widget and gets screwed or the corporation that sets out to screw em from the very beginning?

BTW, restock fees are charged to the customer in 99% of the cases. They charge 15% and then sell open box at 10% :-(

i've worked at an oem before. defect rates for entire computers are in the sub 10% range. that is with many many components. the combination of which must have much less than 1% failure rate each to combine only for a total of 10% failure.

 

[Lonyo]

Rollo is just a fool who doesn't like what anyone says, especially if it is either
A) Positive about ATi
B) Negative about nVidia

This is my own view, and he will probably argue with it, but since he posted a similar thing about ketchup79 and made a personal attack about him, I believe I am entitled to put the same thing about him if I see fit.

I think it's odd your card will not overclock at all. I would expect at least 5MHz headroom on most cards.

If he doesn't like what he's got, he can return it, whether it's ethical or not. Law and ethics are 2 different things.
I would advise maybe a 9500Pro though if you want good performance, rather than a GF FX (yeah, that IS my honest opinion, although it might be a bit more expensive).

 

[nRollo]

 

[nRollo]

"i've worked at an oem before. defect rates for entire computers are in the sub 10% range"

I worked at a box shop myself, 99% of all work done "user error", non warranty. Try telling them that though.

Of course, we had a special provision for non-OCing VGAs. (not)