My Horrible Accident: If you have animals, please read this and learn something from my mistakes *pics*

[Armitage]

When I was a kid we had a fox terrier that went blind. As he started losing his sight, he got very nasty when startled ... we almost had him put down. But as he adjusted, his temperment improved back to what he was before ... he lived for years that way. It was primarily during the transition that he had behavior problems.

So I wouldn't dismiss that he starting to lose his hearing and you haven't noticed yet. Hope not of course ... and good luck with the recovery. You'll have some interesting scars.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
First you are lucky your dog didn't cause more damage or put out an eye. Second, the instant it let go, I would have thrown it across the room and beaten it senseless, and probably kicked its ass again when I got back from the hospital. A dog should never ever strike its master.

and you should never own an animal

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: ergeorge
When I was a kid we had a fox terrier that went blind. As he started losing his sight, he got very nasty when startled ... we almost had him put down. But as he adjusted, his temperment improved back to what he was before ... he lived for years that way. It was primarily during the transition that he had behavior problems.

So I wouldn't dismiss that he starting to lose his hearing and you haven't noticed yet. Hope not of course ... and good luck with the recovery. You'll have some interesting scars.

actually the plastic surgeon said it wouldnt even be visible

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Are not dalimations known to be the meanest dogs there are? I remember seeing a tv report on it and dalmations were rated to be one of the most dangerous dogs to own.

With that, I will stick to my tiny yorkshire terrier. If that thing ever tried to bite me I could throw it across the room.

Small dogs >> big dogs.

The reason you hear about violent dalmations is after 101 Dalmations came out everybody wanted one and the breed became incredibly inbred as people tried to cash in by cranking out Dalmations. So you ended up w/alot of mentally unstable, violent dogs. That isn't a fault of the breed but of come money hungry @ssholes. If you inbreed any animal enough you'll get psychos on your hands.

If you buy a non-inbred Dalmation from a good breeder you'll be no better/worse off than w/any other dog.


Lethal

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: ergeorge
When I was a kid we had a fox terrier that went blind. As he started losing his sight, he got very nasty when startled ... we almost had him put down. But as he adjusted, his temperment improved back to what he was before ... he lived for years that way. It was primarily during the transition that he had behavior problems.

So I wouldn't dismiss that he starting to lose his hearing and you haven't noticed yet. Hope not of course ... and good luck with the recovery. You'll have some interesting scars.

actually the plastic surgeon said it wouldnt even be visible

To bad ... chicks dig scars ... don't you remember Lethal Weapon?

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: ergeorge
When I was a kid we had a fox terrier that went blind. As he started losing his sight, he got very nasty when startled ... we almost had him put down. But as he adjusted, his temperment improved back to what he was before ... he lived for years that way. It was primarily during the transition that he had behavior problems.

So I wouldn't dismiss that he starting to lose his hearing and you haven't noticed yet. Hope not of course ... and good luck with the recovery. You'll have some interesting scars.

actually the plastic surgeon said it wouldnt even be visible

To bad ... chicks dig scars ... don't you remember Lethal Weapon?

yeah yeah id rather not have a huge scar though. if you could have seen it in person, i think you would rather be scar free also.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: richardycc
cliffnotes: your dog pulled a siegfried and roy on you. The end!

We have a 70 lb Setter that reacts this way sometimes when startled from a deep sleep, he even snores very loud. Expect it now so careful when he wakes up quickly.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Are not dalimations known to be the meanest dogs there are? I remember seeing a tv report on it and dalmations were rated to be one of the most dangerous dogs to own.

With that, I will stick to my tiny yorkshire terrier. If that thing ever tried to bite me I could throw it across the room.

Small dogs >> big dogs.

The reason you hear about violent dalmations is after 101 Dalmations came out everybody wanted one and the breed became incredibly inbred as people tried to cash in by cranking out Dalmations. So you ended up w/alot of mentally unstable, violent dogs. That isn't a fault of the breed but of come money hungry @ssholes. If you inbreed any animal enough you'll get psychos on your hands.

If you buy a non-inbred Dalmation from a good breeder you'll be no better/worse off than w/any other dog.


Lethal

Yup ... one of the reasons I tend to prefer mutts myself. They seem to be more mentally stable then many purebreds I've been around. The few dalmations I've been around always seemd to be very twitchy & high-strung.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Are not dalimations known to be the meanest dogs there are? I remember seeing a tv report on it and dalmations were rated to be one of the most dangerous dogs to own.

With that, I will stick to my tiny yorkshire terrier. If that thing ever tried to bite me I could throw it across the room.

Small dogs >> big dogs.

The reason you hear about violent dalmations is after 101 Dalmations came out everybody wanted one and the breed became incredibly inbred as people tried to cash in by cranking out Dalmations. So you ended up w/alot of mentally unstable, violent dogs. That isn't a fault of the breed but of come money hungry @ssholes. If you inbreed any animal enough you'll get psychos on your hands.

If you buy a non-inbred Dalmation from a good breeder you'll be no better/worse off than w/any other dog.


Lethal

yeah i have heard all of that and i suppose it is pretty accurate. i got my dog before 101 dalmations though, so there the guy we got it from was a breeder and we made sure all of his dogs were registered through AKC and they werent inbreed.

 

[NetWareHead]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
First you are lucky your dog didn't cause more damage or put out an eye. Second, the instant it let go, I would have thrown it across the room and beaten it senseless, and probably kicked its ass again when I got back from the hospital. A dog should never ever strike its master.

and you should never own an animal

I've been around dogs for most of my life and I've always raised loyal pets this way. Dogs are like wolves, they need an alpha male to look up to, kinda like the leader of the pack. Sorry but if my dog messed up half of my face like that, he wouldn't be getting away with it. You gotta teach that dog a lesson or else he'll do this again in the future. With proper training, a dog will respect you and he will never bite the hand that feeds him.

 

[sparkyclarky]

I'm so sorry to hear that. My dalmation (Sparky - hence my nickname) was a great dog. Never did any harm to anybody, besides a lot of jumping and an occasional harmless nip. Then around April of 02 he got away from my sister when she was taking him out of his cage (he was an outside dog). We usually let him run for a bit because it was such a b!tch to get him back, and it didn't matter much because we live out in the country and were related to the vast majority of our neighbors. Well, to make a long story short, for whatever reason Sparky bit a kid on the arm. The kid apparently wasn't doing anything to provoke the dog. The vet said that sometimes things like that just happen and they can't really explain it. My folks had to put him down or face loosing homeowner's insurance. That was damn sad - I loved that dog....:beer: to you Sparky

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
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Originally posted by: ergeorge
Is there a chance your dog may be going deaf? Dalmations are prone to that and it maight help explain his behavior at being startled.

I didn't know it was that common. A neighbor had a skittish dalmation that was actually going deaf.

VERY common, dalmations are highly unrecommended dogs if you have kids around, as they get older and potentially deafer, the more dangerous they can be

EDIT - my mistake, as Lethal pointed out, this is a problem with inbred dalmations

 

[Azraele]

I'm glad you are mature and understanding about what happened. I was in a similar situation with a cat once. There was a strange cat outside that had her freaked out. She was at the window making a lot of noise, so I grabbed her from behind to pull her away from what was upsetting her. She had no idea what had grabbed her and so she whipped around and sunk her teeth into my palm. She stopped the instant she recognized me, and from the look on her face she was sorry she had done it, but it was my fault for grabbing her from behind when she was afraid/upset.

With proper training, a dog will respect you and he will never bite the hand that feeds him.

I disagree. A frightened animal will not necessarily recognize help from harm.

 

[teddymines]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
...i still love my dog and i know he didnt do it with malicious intent because after he was awake and realized he injured me very badly, he put his tail between his legs and laid at my feet whining.

I'm not sure this is a valid conclusion. It is possible to have malicious intent, even pre-meditated, and still feel guilty afterward. You should have your dog checked out.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
yeah i have heard all of that and i suppose it is pretty accurate. i got my dog before 101 dalmations though, so there the guy we got it from was a breeder and we made sure all of his dogs were registered through AKC and they werent inbreed.

Your dog is over 40 years old???

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
First you are lucky your dog didn't cause more damage or put out an eye. Second, the instant it let go, I would have thrown it across the room and beaten it senseless, and probably kicked its ass again when I got back from the hospital. A dog should never ever strike its master.

and you should never own an animal

I've been around dogs for most of my life and I've always raised loyal pets this way. Dogs are like wolves, they need an alpha male to look up to, kinda like the leader of the pack. Sorry but if my dog messed up half of my face like that, he wouldn't be getting away with it. You gotta teach that dog a lesson or else he'll do this again in the future. With proper training, a dog will respect you and he will never bite the hand that feeds him.

Proper training consists of kicking the sh!t out of your dog for biting you? I'm sure the ASPCA will be glad to hear your side of the story on that one. You must be related to that asshole who just got busted recently for hacking a puppy to death with an axe because it bit him.

 

[rahvin]

All dog training books explicitly state that you should NEVER tollerate aggresive behavior towards you or any other person from a dog.

Never tolerate growling. This is a threat and it means your dog sees you as a subordinate meant to be dominated by him. Tell him No! Let him know it is not acceptable to EVER growl at you or your children. Make it clear that your children are the offspring of his Alpha leader (you) and that they are to be treated as Alpha "pups."

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/topdog.htm

Your acceptance of the initial growling set the precedence for the future behavior.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: edro13

Originally posted by: LordJezo
Small dogs >> big dogs.

Wrong.
Here is proof.

Big Dogs > small dogs.

when a big dog goes haywire, as does with many a pitbull, people die.

small dogs...people get a scar or two. dog gets kicked across the street or whatever.

and yes, never tolerate aggressive behavior, u are top dog, no f*cking with the big dog is tolerated. but yea, dalmations are known for their temperment.

i've never been able to startle my dog, the guy never sleeps deep almost.. well at the slightest noise the eyes open, its creepy. very shallow sleep.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Something that I think people are skipping over is that your dog, even though it is domesticated, came from the wild. And if the dog is startled, scared, injured, or in some other way under stress it could react to it's environment instictively. It will react like wild animal. This really isn't too different from people who, when put under enough stress, will react emotionally and not rationally.


Lethal

 

[IEatChildren]

I'm definitely not the kind of person who likes to hurt animals, but when a dog disrespects you, you have to let it know it did something wrong.
When you take your dog to a trainer, they beat it senseless until it's afraid of people, which is why they learn to respond to commands. They don't wanna get smacked.
A lot of people send their dogs to a trainer and don't realize what the trainer did to it.
So basically if your dog does something wrong, you smack it. Just enough to let it know what they did is wrong.

 

[NetWareHead]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Proper training consists of kicking the sh!t out of your dog for biting you? I'm sure the ASPCA will be glad to hear your side of the story on that one. You must be related to that asshole who just got busted recently for hacking a puppy to death with an axe because it bit him.

Biting is one thng...getting your face MAULED is another. Nice couterpoint straight out of left field, hacking a puppy to death...

I won't even waste any more time responding.

 

[Squisher]

It's good that you're alright, mostly.

I have 14 yr. old lab mix and this has to be the most docile dog you have ever seen. It's had a couple of strokes in the last year and although it seems to be as docile as ever it tried to attack a small child that came over our house. Luckily we were able to stop her. Now we keep a very close watch on her.

 

[Haps]

I think you need to do some googling to get an understanding of what Rage Syndrome is. Dalmations in particular have a very high incidence rate of this disorder. I can get much worse. I have heard of cases of people who couldn't get into their house after the dog "flipped" and had to call the cops who shot the dog.

But based on your description and the breed it does sound like rage syndrome. Time for some reading and some decisions.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Proper training consists of kicking the sh!t out of your dog for biting you? I'm sure the ASPCA will be glad to hear your side of the story on that one. You must be related to that asshole who just got busted recently for hacking a puppy to death with an axe because it bit him.

Biting is one thng...getting your face MAULED is another. Nice couterpoint straight out of left field, hacking a puppy to death...

I won't even waste any more time responding.

Forgive me for not using the exact term "mauled", Mr. Wizard. Guess I have to spell it out loud and clear for you now.

Cliff Notes: Beating the sh!t out of a dog isn't going to accomplish anything, except make the dog afraid of you.

Yes, it's tragic what happened to the OP.

Yes, proper training may have prevented this.

No, proper training does not entail beating the sh!t out of the dog.

Capisce?

I'm not the one who stated he would proceed to beat a dog senseless for "mauling" him, then do it again after he got home from the hospital. Explain to me how that is going to teach the dog anything, except to be afraid of you. Yes, it's a tragedy that the OP got so badly hurt, but beating the crap out of the dog is not going to accomplish anything after the fact.

 

What's that saying about sleeping dogs?

Indeed