My horrible experience with ZipZoomFly

ZebulonPi

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Apr 2, 2004
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I had done all the research, looked at all the websites, checked out all the magazines. I spent a couple of years, examining everything, seeing where the trends were going, replacing one thing with another on my big list of computer components I would purchase when the time came to built my new PC, the first one completely by my own hands.

It should have been perfect.

I even researched the websites where I would buy my stuff, making sure that they had good customer service ratings, good prices, a good return policy. I felt confident that, when the time came, I?d be all set.

The time came. I wasn?t all set. It was FAR from perfect.

The first sign of impending doom came when I made my first attempt to order. Everything but the case said ?Free 2 day shipping?, which was great? except that, when I went to the checkout, it still said $104 for shipping! I carefully read, and it said the promotional shipping would be calculated at checkout, so I went ahead and checked out? and got charged the $104. $972 total

I picked up the phone, and called ZipZoomFly. Not a problem, they said. Adding one thing without free shipping causes it ALL to be charged, they said. They?ll cancel my order, they said, and I?d start again, breaking my order into two.

Come to find out, the $104 was the proper shipping charge? for the case itself. Not a problem, I?d by my case local, and save myself over a hundred dollars. Strange, though, that they customer service rep didn?t seem to know how the shipping calculator worked?

I should?ve run screaming at this point, but no, I ignored the feelings of dread, placed my order again, without the case, and everything looked fine. $775 total this time around? much better.

Until my account got charged for the $972 order I cancelled.

Stunned, I contacted ZipZoomFly once again. The customer service guy kept insisting that it was only a ?preauthorization?, and that it would ?fall off my account?, even after I repeatedly told him it was my CHECKING account that was debited. Finally, I got him into a conference call with my bank, and we worked out that all ZipZoomFly needed to do was fax a letter saying it was a mistake, and my bank would credit my account. The rep assured me he?d take care of it, the bank told me they?d look for it, and everything seemed fine again.

Not a chance. Things were just STARTING to get bad.


Not 3 hours later, I get a call from the previously helpful customer service guy, telling me that they CAN?T send a letter saying it was their mistake. When pressed as to WHY they couldn?t any longer, even though he himself told me they could not 3 hours ago, I was told ?Accounting won?t let me.? It would take TWO WEEKS, they told me, to get my own money back into my account. They had to have it clear their bank before they could return it. I asked him, just to make sure I wasn?t imagining it, that he had just told me that THEY had made a mistake, taken MY money, and were going to make me wait TWO WEEKS to get it back, instead of faxing a letter that said ?oops? to my bank and having the whole thing go away. Yep, he confirmed it. That?s what they had to do.

At this point, I asked to speak to his supervisor. I was told he would give me a call back.

The next day, I got my callback, all right. I also got hit WITH THE CHARGE FOR MY ?CORRECT? ORDER. Another $775, in the hands of ZipZoomFly. They were now into me for almost $1800.

At this point, they HAD to do something, right? I can?t afford having all this money tied up! I had bills to pay! The end of the month is coming up, I need to pay rent!!! The supervisor at ZipZoom Fly must have the authority to do something about it, right? Wrong. He gave me the ?Accounting won?t let us? line again. When asked if I could actually speak to the accounting group, he pretty much let it be known that he didn?t think I?d UNDERSTAND what they were talking about, even if I COULD speak to them, which of course I couldn?t. I made it very clear that I would indeed understand their accountant-speak, as my company WRITES financial software. He was unmoved. I asked to speak to HIS manager, still firmly believing that SOMEONE at ZipZoomFly would be able to step up to the plate and SIMPLY SEND A FREAKING LETTER SAYING THEY MADE A MISTAKE! They all KNEW they made a mistake, but putting this in writing seemed to be an insurmountable task for them. But the Operations Supervisor, now, HE had to be a man of action!

Sadly, no. Same speech, same evil, demonic accounting denying my pleas. He even tried to make it out to be MY fault, as if, if I had called my bank first, instead of them (which of course I HAD DONE, with a ZipZoomFly on the phone, to boot, the moment I saw this thing hit!). I got indignant. I told him I was in IT. I told him I posted on boards everywhere. I told him I would raise a hue and a cry unlike anything he had ever seen! I had bills to pay! I couldn?t wait TWO WEEKS for MY OWN MONEY!!!

He was unmoved. I simply hung up at that point.

And so? this post. My one and only opportunity to get any type of satisfaction out of this whole ordeal. Never again will I deal with ZipZoomFly. And I hope, for your own sakes, you won?t either. Don?t let what happened to me, happen to you.

I promised him I?d rant and rave, and here it is. I hope, somewhere, he?s reading this? and that he?s worried.
 

frankqfrank

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Aug 29, 2001
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i guess it's the wrong forum but it's still pretty rediculous.

I won't give them any business.
 

540mb

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Jun 2, 2003
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Ummm, if you spent a couple years researching, how could you NOT know they charged so much for shipping a case? I agree it sucks with your money being gone for two weeks, but were you doing your research blindfolded?
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Poor guy. Better luck next time.

PS. This would have been better off in "Off Topic". Next time use a credit card!
 

bigpow

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Dec 10, 2000
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Wrong place indeed. But I feel sorry for Junior here - so another bump for ZipZoomFly leason learned.
 

ovenmitt

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Nov 4, 2003
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IMO the #1 rule of online purchases is "never ever use a debit card."

zipzoomfly is formerly googlegear.

Anyhow, you should call back, stay calm, & say you're sorry you got upset, but you have a lot of bills to pay & you're worried about how you can pay them since ZZF has $1800 of your money. Say since you canceled your order, you need them to refund your money. It should take days not weeks. Debit cards don't have "authorizations." And stay calm & polite.

If they refuse, cancel your other order & ask if that money can be refunded. If they refuse, get rep name, thank for time, & hang up politely. The report them to the BBB, and immediately call your bank & say ZZF stole money from your account -- that you ordered something, you canceled the order, they double-charged you for $1800, and they're now refusing to refund your money. Ask your bank what they can do...they may be able to protect you to some degree or force ZZF to return your money. Maybe.
 

Thoreau

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Jan 11, 2003
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Just for the record, a Pre-Auth charge, is a Pre-Auth charge, regardless if you used a Providian Visa card, or your Wells Fargo bank card. It works the same in either case. *IF* it was a pre-auth, and not a completed charge, then it will go away in a few days, and this part depends on your bank, not the merchant. If it's a completed charge, give ZipZoomFly a kick in the balls for me too.
 

dp004i

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Apr 24, 2001
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Pre-authorization charge shows up on debit cards as well as credit cards, you have nothing to worry about. It will go away in a few days.
 

Nanotech

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Mar 10, 2004
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Poor guy. Better luck next time.

PS. This would have been better off in "Off Topic". Next time use a credit card!

At least in this forum it will stay at the top longer and if it gets locked big deal but hopefully the moderators will simply move the rant for our poor little friend.

Definately, get a credit card for these type of purchases.
 

bargainshopper

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The story doesn't sound right. Spent two yrs to research PC purchase??? The only valid you can have after two yrs is to wait because something better, faster and cheaper will come along!!!
 

Netopia

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While I don't agree with what they are doing, I have to ask why on Earth would you use your DEBIT card for an internet transaction and not a CC? That's just inviting problems in the first place! Had you used a CC, none of this would have been an issue, they still would have the crumby policies which are wrong, but you wouldn't be in the bind you are now in!

Joe
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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It's not going to go away in a few days because I guarantee you it's not a preauthorized charge.

What you need to do is use a bank that doesn't suck. Banks have a lot of power and if you were with a good bank they would just allow you to dispute the charge, credit your account, and then act as if the money is owed them. At least that has been my experience.

 
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