my life just went to crap in 1 day.

[azilaga]

I'm reminded of the line from Batman Returns...

"Bruce, why do we fall? So we can learn to get up."

Prayers for you and your family. Obviously, this will be hard on your wife.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: manowar821
God damn some of you are cvnt-rags. Like this man is less than you for the drugs he's taken. You honestly think that is an indicator of character? You honestly think that it's worse than alcohol, than abusiveness or bigotry? Nice. It's nice to know that I share the gene pool with mother fvckers like you.

Enjoy your holier-than-thou mentality, it's going to get your asses kicked some day, and I hope it's myself dealing the blows.

Drugs != Bad

Perhaps it has more to do with his "woe is me" mentality, rather than worrying about his family. "my life just went to crap in 1 day" versus "what have I done to my family"

 

[40Hands]

Here's hoping someday we can get these old douche bags out of our political system and make a change to this stupid legislated morality. Maybe people will open their eyes and realize that not all illegal drugs are bad. mmkay?

Good luck to you and your family!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: Narmer
Why one earth would you do something so illegal in such a public place? Because you've done it a long time and thought you were invincible. Stupid move, man. NEVER let your guard down.

yeah it was a stupid move....

shows how fast your life can turn around and bite you in the ass...

i learned my lesson.

Hopefully, that is the truth and not some bravado.

Then can you pass that lesson along to others.

Some of your posts imply that the lesson you learned is not to get caught.

The lesson that you should be learning is that you do not do illegal drugs.

Laws are put in place for a purpose. You have four choices in that regard.

1) Obey them
2) Break them and take the consequences if/when you get caught
3) Leave to where such laws do not exist.

4) Options 1-3 above and work to change the laws.

The laws are here at the current time because it is felt to be best for society.
People that complain that they infringe on their rights seem to want to look at the laws through their own rose colored glasses ignoring to potential consequences of their actions.

Where do you draw the line at drug legalization? Addition overrides common sense.

 

[piasabird]

I think you may have a leg to stand on if the oxycotn addiction was started by a legal prescription. Still it looks pretty bad. This is an instance where you need a good lawyer.

I repeat, get a good lawyer.

You should say that if Limbaugh got off, then you should too.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: manowar821
God damn some of you are cvnt-rags. Like this man is less than you for the drugs he's taken. You honestly think that is an indicator of character? You honestly think that it's worse than alcohol, than abusiveness or bigotry? Nice. It's nice to know that I share the gene pool with mother fvckers like you.

Enjoy your holier-than-thou mentality, it's going to get your asses kicked some day, and I hope it's myself dealing the blows.

Drugs != Bad

Perhaps it has more to do with his "woe is me" mentality, rather than worrying about his family. "my life just went to crap in 1 day" versus "what have I done to my family"

Definitely. Though many people are coming down hard on him when he is literally just starting the steps of realization and hopefully moving onto recovery. He will need quite a bit of time to even begin to come to terms with this situation and even longer to get over it and move on.

He's not less of a man, he's literally just like millions and millions of other people living today. Yes drug addiction (this includes alcohol) is an indicator of character. Is it an open and shut case of character judgement, no it's not. The OP has a clear cut problem that came out of secrecy rather quickly. His drug use certainly is a direct indicator of his character, if you cannot understand how that is, then read a little and think hard about it.

I've always thought that drugs were not bad and there were some that were less bad than others. I have been rethinking this mentality quite a bit recently. I don't think that drugs should be banned or that they are totally evil, but what drugs do to your body is easily understood as physiologically undesirable. Does that mean they should be totally removed from the body? In some cases yes, and some cases no. Sure you can go and have a few drinks, mabey smoke a joint here and there, but do you need to do it EVERYDAY? No, that's unhealty.
Are drugs bad? Yes. Can drugs be fun? Sure. Are they necessary? No.

Mabey you need to seek anger management. Do you get in a lot of bar fights?

 

[zanejohnson]

i've been following the thread...


i'll say this, i've thought about life and love alot in the past few days and im ready to face whatever i have to to get back to life, and quit using drugs...

all i've taken since the day i went to jail is a total of 8 lortab 10's. im weening myself down, and then im going to stop.

i got a lawyer, contacted my probation officer....so we'll just have to wait and see what happens..

my probation office said just to keep doing what im doing and we'll talk on my next visit (about 3 weeks from now)... so who knows what that means...

 

[zanejohnson]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
a year seems steep for a second VOP misdem. violation. I assume the oxy possession is a misdo?

i was arrested for pot almost a year ago which im still on probation for, and this time posession of phenobarbitol

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: manowar821
God damn some of you are cvnt-rags. Like this man is less than you for the drugs he's taken. You honestly think that is an indicator of character? You honestly think that it's worse than alcohol, than abusiveness or bigotry? Nice. It's nice to know that I share the gene pool with mother fvckers like you.

Enjoy your holier-than-thou mentality, it's going to get your asses kicked some day, and I hope it's myself dealing the blows.

Drugs != Bad

Perhaps it has more to do with his "woe is me" mentality, rather than worrying about his family. "my life just went to crap in 1 day" versus "what have I done to my family"

Definitely. Though many people are coming down hard on him when he is literally just starting the steps of realization and hopefully moving onto recovery. He will need quite a bit of time to even begin to come to terms with this situation and even longer to get over it and move on.

He's not less of a man, he's literally just like millions and millions of other people living today. Yes drug addiction (this includes alcohol) is an indicator of character. Is it an open and shut case of character judgement, no it's not. The OP has a clear cut problem that came out of secrecy rather quickly. His drug use certainly is a direct indicator of his character, if you cannot understand how that is, then read a little and think hard about it.

I've always thought that drugs were not bad and there were some that were less bad than others. I have been rethinking this mentality quite a bit recently. I don't think that drugs should be banned or that they are totally evil, but what drugs do to your body is easily understood as physiologically undesirable. Does that mean they should be totally removed from the body? In some cases yes, and some cases no. Sure you can go and have a few drinks, mabey smoke a joint here and there, but do you need to do it EVERYDAY? No, that's unhealty.
Are drugs bad? Yes. Can drugs be fun? Sure. Are they necessary? No.

Mabey you need to seek anger management. Do you get in a lot of bar fights?

I don't drink, smoke or snort anything. Why would I go to bars?

I don't think I need anger management, the people saying "I hope you rot in jail" really do deserve to get beat up a little. It's like they grew up being told that they're better than other people. Does that kind of attitude not deserve some sort of correction, more so than those who enjoy a puff of weed or something now and then, but who are otherwise fully functioning and kind members of society?

I'm saying that what is right and wrong is not black and white, and this country and it's laws are far from correct, despite what the "moral majority" wants you to believe.

Edit: I'm not speaking of the Moral Majority society or whatever that is run by christian fundamentalists. Though they are douche-bags.

 

[Mxylplyx]

My completely uneducated and uninformed guess is that you dont serve jail time for this, especially since no money changed hands.

 

[49erinnc]

I read the first couple pages and then it just became a bitch-fest but IMO, 99% of the time, someone with a drug problem needs to hit rock bottom before they turn it around. Sometimes it can be jail time, having a loved one leave you, losing your job, going broke, etc. But as long as an addict is living without remorse/consequence, they will likely continue using. I hate for your family that you may have to spend some time in jail. But, I consider it a blessing in disguise because it may be the one thing that actually saves your marriage, your family and perhaps your life. Good luck...

 

[Mxylplyx]

Doesnt sound like a felony, so if you do go to jail, just lie when it comes time to find another job. Hell, I'd probably lie even if it were a felony, and hope they didnt process a background check.

 

[Cobalt]

Opioid addiction isn't a joke as I have experienced it as well as friends. I hope you recover from it and get your life back together. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[Daverino]

At the risk of being blunt, it seems like your life was on its way to crap for more than one day. You probably thought before that this would all catch up with you. If your entire family had died in a car accident the day you got fired and had your bank accounts cleared out by identity thieves, that would match the subject line. But this sounds like the end of a downward slope for you. Hopefully you can get things back on track for yourself.

 

[wheresmybacon]

Originally posted by: MAME
here's hoping you rot in jail for a long time

this is a joke, right?

 

[EKKC]

drugs are bad... mmkay?

 

[Rastus]

Plea bargain down to a misdemeanor, go to rehab, do a little time on work release so you don't lose your job. It's not the end of the world for you. If you keep using drugs though, it will get worse.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
i've been following the thread...


i'll say this, i've thought about life and love alot in the past few days and im ready to face whatever i have to to get back to life, and quit using drugs...

all i've taken since the day i went to jail is a total of 8 lortab 10's. im weening myself down, and then im going to stop.

i got a lawyer, contacted my probation officer....so we'll just have to wait and see what happens..

my probation office said just to keep doing what im doing and we'll talk on my next visit (about 3 weeks from now)... so who knows what that means...

Hopefully, you're less bummed than on the day of the arrest. You seemed to feel very guilty and ready and willing to march off to the gas chamber, etc.

What's the point of you going to jail? You're a productive citizen with a family and apparently no violent offences etc.

I'd guess the court like to see contrition, fine. But I do hope you work with that lawyer and don't serve any time. Doesn't sound like you deserve it to me.

Good luck and think positively,

Fern

 

[Old Hippie]

I hesitate to say anything here because, as usual, the thread has gone astray.

Mr. zanejohnson presented 2 seperate problems.

1. He was arrested and charged with possession of a dangerious substance, phenobarbital. The phenobarbital was given to him by a friend and that transaction was witnessed by the police. Phenobarbital is DEA Schedule IV substance and is in the same class as Ambien, Valium and Xanax. Why did he make this transaction in front of LE? Only he knows the answer to that one. BUT, he doesn't use or FEED his addiction with those pills.

2. He has an addiction to Hydrocodone/Oxycodone. Why he mentioned this in the first post? Only he knows the answer. He may have just felt guilty and wanted to get it off his chest. Regardless, it has NOTHING to do with his arrest.

Let me repeat again, His addiction has NOTHING to do with his arrest.

Any lawyer worth his salt, is going to lump this two problems together and refer him to rehab to gain a sympathetic view from the court.

As far as his arrest goes, that was just plain stupid....for him and the cops. I don't suppose anyone else, or their relative, has ever given a pill from their script to someone else? Once the cop saw it, he can't take it back. But after investigating and finding it wasn't a 1lb heroin deal, I woulda thought he could have gone back to fighting crime.

His addiction? For those that laugh and say "Jail is the answer", I sincerely think you have infantile, inexperienced, and uneducated minds. Addiction touches many, and if you haven't experienced it, I'm glad. If you had, you wouldn't be soo quick to judge. Jail does many things, but help for addiction isn't one of 'um.

The OP was a working, contributing member of our society. I hope the justice system of Texas allows him to continue.

 

[Old Hippie]

im weening myself down, and then im going to stop.

Let me clue ya in about withdrawal, cause you are gonna have it. The word is Kratom. This is a crushed plant leaf that eliminates 95% of opiad withdrawal symtoms for many people. It's the first herbal remedy I've ever used that actually worked. Now, I'm gonna give you another hint. Go to Flagler Cafe, read the forum, and give Jan your order. Take it from one who's been there, this is the ticket.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Reading all that stuff Dr Pizza posted does rather remove the sympathy factor. I hope zanejohnson can come back from this although his posts don't seem to indicate that he's ready.

Good luck to him!

Actually, I didn't mean to remove sympathy. Instead, I just wanted to point out that people who are in addiction tend to deny how serious of a problem it is until it finally comes back to really bite them. There's a bit of a difference between Joe Shmoe with an addiction to what the OP is addicted to and the OP with a family AND on parole. Assuming he gained his addiction from what was originally legitimate use of his drugs, I really do feel sympathetic. I've seen those types of medications over-prescribed before. (My own wife received 80 tabs of the 10mg; 79 remain in the bottle - if they haven't already gone to the dump.)

For some people, they are more succeptible to becoming addicted - and while addicted, they make comments such as those I quoted from the OP in previous threads. It's a shame when we punish these people rather than help them. Although, I suppose in some way, punishment serves as a deterent to others considering using the drug. I don't, however, feel that incarceration is the best punishment in such cases.

 

[Amaroque]

You're not going to jail. I know ppl who have commited much worse drug crimes, and they got probation (even when they were already on probation).

Being in front of your job concerns me though. You may get fired.

 

[SampSon]

I don't drink, smoke or snort anything. Why would I go to bars?

I don't think I need anger management, the people saying "I hope you rot in jail" really do deserve to get beat up a little. It's like they grew up being told that they're better than other people. Does that kind of attitude not deserve some sort of correction, more so than those who enjoy a puff of weed or something now and then, but who are otherwise fully functioning and kind members of society?

I'm saying that what is right and wrong is not black and white, and this country and it's laws are far from correct, despite what the "moral majority" wants you to believe.

Edit: I'm not speaking of the Moral Majority society or whatever that is run by christian fundamentalists. Though they are douche-bags.

Ah, I thought your comment about beating people up were directed at different people in this thread. My apologies.

Common sense tells us (but apparently escapes many in this thread) that drug laws/use are not black and white.

 

[zixxer]

I call shens.



...simply because he isn't getting a lawyer, is just fscking around.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: zixxer
I call shens.



...simply because he isn't getting a lawyer, is just fscking around.

I'll call ya and raise 2 Vikes,

i got a lawyer, contacted my probation officer....so we'll just have to wait and see what happens..