My LLano A4-3300 Review [Old thread - necro]

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USER8000

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Agreed. I would rather have the Haswell Celeron, than any FM1 or FM2 dual-core.

Or better still get a cheap A6/A8 quad core for FM1 or a cheap A8/A10 quad core for FM2 as an upgrade and it will be perfectly fine for general usage. Much cheaper than changing platforms IMHO.
 

VirtualLarry

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Or better still get a cheap A6/A8 quad core for FM1 or a cheap A8/A10 quad core for FM2 as an upgrade and it will be perfectly fine for general usage. Much cheaper than changing platforms IMHO.

Well, sure, if you already have the motherboard. I was just saying, if I were to go out and purchase an FM1/FM2 dual-core and mobo, versus buying an H81 board and a Haswell Celeron, I'd go with the Haswell Celeron.
 

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Now $8.55 shipped, more than 10 available, eBay item # 152009289374. A nightmare, can't believe it's still depreciating from $10 each I paid. I guess I'll buy more to make up my loss.

But despite all that, this is a fantastic value and much more cost-efficient than any of the mATX AM3 boards out there and more energy-efficient. An ECS A55F-M4 V2.0 board for $27.99 shipped has UEFI, secure-boot, and Windows 8.1/10 installation ready, although it only has SATA II, is too hard to beat.

I think VirtualLarry should try one of this and offer this A4-3300 as a $40 cheaper solution than Celeron G1820 combo he's offering to his buyers. I'm confident he'll be surprised more of his cheapo buyers will go for A4-3300 instead. All are brand-new, never used.
 
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VirtualLarry

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And Newegg has a ShellShocker of a combo G3258 Haswell Pentium, and an Asus B85 board, for $99.99.

"No heatsink or fan". How much for an FM1 HSF these days, waltchan, and why did you leave off that info? With shipping, heatsinks are generally like $8-10, so that increases the price quite a bit from $8.55 for the CPU alone.

And where are you getting the cheap boards for them? (Edit: Found some.)
 
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NTMBK

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"No heatsink or fan". How much for an FM1 HSF these days, waltchan, and why did you leave off that info? With shipping, heatsinks are generally like $8-10, so that increases the price quite a bit from $8.55 for the CPU alone.

AMD have been using the same HSF mounting system since the AM2 days- you should be able to find something on the cheap. Not like these low end chips need a lot of cooling. For example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Used-CPU-...747201?hash=item3f5e29f341:g:gXUAAOSwAuNW4Fws
 

waltchan

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And Newegg has a ShellShocker of a combo G3258 Haswell Pentium, and an Asus B85 board, for $99.99.

"No heatsink or fan". How much for an FM1 HSF these days, waltchan, and why did you leave off that info? With shipping, heatsinks are generally like $8-10, so that increases the price quite a bit from $8.55 for the CPU alone.

And where are you getting the cheap boards for them? (Edit: Found some.)
You're talking a G3258 combo deal that has already been SOLD-OUT and Newegg has no plans to restock. This A4-3300 is available to everyone right now while supplies last. This $8 price competes with LGA775 with no heatsink as well, and there's no more room to depreciate further in price (maybe $5 three years later).
 
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VirtualLarry

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Pimping the FM1...

Anyways, not a bad deal, but the listing for that mobo says nothing about Win10 certified, FYI. In contrast to your SD posting.
 

waltchan

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Pimping the FM1...

Anyways, not a bad deal, but the listing for that mobo says nothing about Win10 certified, FYI. In contrast to your SD posting.
It has secure-boot feature in BIOS, that's enough to make it Windows 8 certified and Windows 10 as well if tested.
 

waltchan

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You thinking it could / should be Win10 certified, does not make it so.
Already installed two, and all installed Windows 10 successfully with secure-boot, UEFI, AHCI, and everything. Boards were made in May 2013 manufactured date, one of the final-edition FM1s.

Requirement for Windows 8 certified is secure-boot mode in BIOS. Windows 10 is no different, and is expected to be certified if tested.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Got my three FM1 ECS mobos, and waiting on the heatsinks. The CPUs came "postage due", thanks waltchan.
 

waltchan

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Got my three FM1 ECS mobos, and waiting on the heatsinks. The CPUs came "postage due", thanks waltchan.
Oh nice, didn't know your three purchase in eBay's history was made by you. Let me know what you think of the board quality. It's a very-simple design, but at least they're brand new and unopened. Board only has USB 2.0 ports.
 

VirtualLarry

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Oh nice, didn't know your three purchase in eBay's history was made by you. Let me know what you think of the board quality. It's a very-simple design, but at least they're brand new and unopened. Board only has USB 2.0 ports.

Yeah, A55 is a pretty simple chipset. I previously picked up three A55 MSI FM2+ boards ("Military Grade"), that I got from TigerDirect (way before they closed), for around the same price. (under $30 ea shipped.)

I didn't get a deal on the CPUs, though. I bought three A4-6300 Richland CPUs, for around $45 ea. Cheapest FM2 I could find new at the time.
 

waltchan

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I didn't get a deal on the CPUs, though. I bought three A4-6300 Richland CPUs, for around $45 ea. Cheapest FM2 I could find new at the time.
Of course, what do you expect. CPU depreciation hasn't hit for FM2 yet, so there's no fun in deals to be inspired. Motherboard prices are going to be the same, regardless of what socket.

I just paid $27 for one used A4-6300 w/ heatsink, by the way, last week, so you're hit with $18 depreciation already. FM2s are risky purchase now, especially A4-7300 for $45, that won't receive Crimson drivers.
 
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waltchan

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The CPUs came "postage due", thanks waltchan.
Didn't read this part carefully. Generally, eBay sellers are responsible for "postage due," Buyers don't need to pay for it and you can ignore it entirely (USPS won't send you second notice).
 

VirtualLarry

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Didn't read this part carefully. Generally, eBay sellers are responsible for "postage due," Buyers don't need to pay for it and you can ignore it entirely (USPS won't send you second notice).

No, my options were to pay the postage due, in order to pick up the package, or send it back entirely.

Since I wanted my package, I paid it.

Edit: I don't think that your suggestion to defraud the USPS is a good one. ("Ignore it entirely"). I try not to upset my local postal folks. They work hard, and I appreciate that they take time to help me.
 
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waltchan

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No, my options were to pay the postage due, in order to pick up the package, or send it back entirely.

Since I wanted my package, I paid it.
Funny, I ordered five, and they were shipped by FedEx ground. Not a single problem with postage due. How much was it? Sorry to hear you got unlucky.
 

VirtualLarry

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Funny, I ordered five, and they were shipped by FedEx ground. Not a single problem with postage due. How much was it? Sorry to hear you got unlucky.

Did they ship yours in a USPS Priority Mail box? They did mine - with a "First Class" pre-paid postage stick on it. Which, given the rules of USPS, is a definite NO-NO. If it's a Priority Mail box, it HAS to ship priority. So I had to pay the difference between the first-class postage, and what it would have cost to ship priority. Which wasn't much, but it was annoying, because I had to go the Post Office to pick up my package.
 

waltchan

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Did they ship yours in a USPS Priority Mail box? They did mine - with a "First Class" pre-paid postage stick on it. Which, given the rules of USPS, is a definite NO-NO. If it's a Priority Mail box, it HAS to ship priority. So I had to pay the difference between the first-class postage, and what it would have cost to ship priority. Which wasn't much, but it was annoying, because I had to go the Post Office to pick up my package.
Oh yes, it was shipped in a Priority mail box alright, but it delivered to me via FedEx Ground. Please notify seller of this error they're making. How much the processor cost you now for each?
 

waltchan

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Edit: I don't think that your suggestion to defraud the USPS is a good one. ("Ignore it entirely"). I try not to upset my local postal folks. They work hard, and I appreciate that they take time to help me.
I got this at least three times in past, all ignored, nothing happens. It is NOT buyer's responsibility to pay extra on shipping on delivery when sellers mistakenly ship packages in wrong postage rate. USPS should pass the bill back to sender, not to recipient.
 

VirtualLarry

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Oh yes, it was shipped in a Priority mail box alright, but it delivered to me via FedEx Ground. Please notify seller of this error they're making. How much the processor cost you now for each?

Well, then, he's committing federal Postal Fraud. Stealing Priority Mail boxes, and not shipping them USPS priority, is a violation of the law.
 
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