my mom just tried to tell me not to smoke...

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fumbduck

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Originally posted by: onelin0
Originally posted by: fumbduck
fvck all the people who hate smokers. Because we smoke, why are we bad? We are "hurting" our own health, what do you care.

Also, secondhand smoke isn't proven to do anything, so you can't argue there.
Phillip Morris on Secondhand Smoke

/yawn

That is what "public health officials" have "concluded". I am not saying it is wrong. However, it does not give any basis on how they came about this conclusion or anything. You can't just look at once source and trust it. You can /yawn when you give me hard evidence and statistics that are from a credible source, not just posted on the internet.
 

Chrono

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actually, I don't mind if you guys smoke. The faster you guys die the better. We have too many people in this world already.
Good job! Keep up the good work with smoking.
 

onelin

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I figured the irony of it being phillip morris counted for something...I mean, they waited as long as they could (I presume) before putting warning labels on the packages... these studies were so "inconclusive" they decided to accept them blindly? c'mon.

I'm done
 

jpeyton

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Women who smoke are a unique breed.

They stink at both ends.
 

Acanthus

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I dont care if the studies are wrong with their percentages, its bad for you, period. End of story.

If it lowers my lifespan by 3 seconds, those are my 3 seconds, fvcker.
 

If you start smoking now then
....you are a dumbfvck
Else
....you are still a dumbfvck
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: conjur


Anyone who STARTS smoking now is fvcking idiot.

Have you ever noticed that some of the nicest-looking women smoke? They don't seem to buy cartons of cigs, but buy a pack at a time - kind of a vanity thing.

Just the other day, I was at the service station getting my oil changed. I was waiting in the convenience store. A nice-looking blonde came in to buy some juice and then said: "Today, I think I'll take a pack of Pall-Mall." Die hard smokers are usually glued to one brand. Here's a person who's "trying" out different cigarettes? WTF ??!!??



 

yukichigai

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Second hand smoke... okay, let's think about it. You're breathing in smoke, a substance which results from burning things. Regardless of what substance is being burned smoke is harmful to the lungs. Now add to that the fact that you are burning something which according to various research studies may or may not be a known carcinogen. Yeah, secondhand smoke is probably bad for you.

Regardless of that Secondhand smoke is just plain rude. It smells like ass. The last thing I want to come ambush me out of nowhere is the smell of burning ass.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Chrono
actually, I don't mind if you guys smoke. The faster you guys die the better. We have too many people in this world already.
Good job! Keep up the good work with smoking.
I'm sure smokers know it's bad for them... to those who can't even care enough for themselves, I must agree with this. But at least have the common decency to not do it with nonsmokers around. :|
 

Originally posted by: Chrono
actually, I don't mind if you guys smoke. The faster you guys die the better. We have too many people in this world already.
Good job! Keep up the good work with smoking.
You wouldn't be saying that if you knew how much of your medicare taxes went to fund care for smokers with emphysema. :|
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: conjur


Anyone who STARTS smoking now is fvcking idiot.

Have you ever noticed that some of the nicest-looking women smoke? They don't seem to buy cartons of cigs, but buy a pack at a time - kind of a vanity thing.

Just the other day, I was at the service station getting my oil changed. I was waiting in the convenience store. A nice-looking blonde came in to buy some juice and then said: "Today, I think I'll take a pack of Pall-Mall." Die hard smokers are usually glued to one brand. Here's a person who's "trying" out different cigarettes? WTF ??!!??

yeah, whats up with that? social smokers mostly i guess
 

TreyRandom

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Originally posted by: MillAfter a five-day meeting in Lyons, France, this week, they suggested non-smokers who are exposed to second-hand smoke are between 20% and 30% more likely to develop lung cancer.



What no raw numbers? Speaking in percentages easily flaws the study. I'd like to see xxx people will be more likely to do, because one of the original criticisms of the EPA study was that it said a 20% increase, which was actually 2.5 more people out of 10,000 which is statistically insignificant.

...insignificant, unless you're one of those 2.5 people out of 10,000 (or 25 people out of 100,000... or 250 people out of a million... or 75,000 people out of 300 million).

 

Optimus

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Hey, did you know that 67% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

47% of all people know that...


Caitlion: Your mom wants you to stop because it is a harmful habit that she cannot break. But like all parents, she wishes for better for her kids than what she has or is. Basically, she loves you.

It sounds cliche'd, but if you become a parent one day you will understand.
 

lowtech1

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anyway, im not a big smoker. i smoke occasionally. and no, not to look cool. its relaxing. i just like it. this wasnt meant to be a thread where all the nonsmokers can come and yell at me alright?

ive smoked off and on for about 6 years. im not addicted. stop preaching. thanks.
That is what my 30 year old sister said at the rebellious age of 16~19.
She now smoke about 1/2 pack a day and has tried to quit about 4 times with out success.

Try to quit now before it too late, because smoking isn't cool, bad for you hearth & most guys find women that smoke are unattractive.
 

fumbduck

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Originally posted by: onelin0
I figured the irony of it being phillip morris counted for something...I mean, they waited as long as they could (I presume) before putting warning labels on the packages... these studies were so "inconclusive" they decided to accept them blindly? c'mon.

I'm done

where the hell are you quoting "inconclusive" from? Phillip Morris probably threw that up on their webpage just to avoid another future onslaught of lawsuits. They do not provide any statistical evidence or information on how the study was conducted, how large the sample, etc.

Won't do it for me.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Chrono
actually, I don't mind if you guys smoke. The faster you guys die the better. We have too many people in this world already.
Good job! Keep up the good work with smoking.
You wouldn't be saying that if you knew how much of your medicare taxes went to fund care for smokers with emphysema. :|

not just medicare, even if it is private insurance, it still hits us all in the pocket. Blues, Aetna, whatever they all spread out the cost of this stuff so that it's paid for by those that are healthy.
 

caitlion

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Originally posted by: xmellyx
She has every right to tell you what to do; she is your mother and you are extremely underage. Whether or not you heed her advice is a different story. But don't act as though she is some evil monster; you make it seem as though she is some kind of freak.

Having said that, I do enjoy the occasional cigarrette and then won't touch them for months, even years. One of my sisters, however, is a regular smoker, has been for years and years. Nobody else in the family --extended included--smokes. My mom says stuff like, "I'll kill her myself" or "Doesn't she know what she's doing to herself?" etc etc. yet the funny thing is she has never said anything to her face because she knows the choice lies within my sister--plus she's not 17, she's a grown adult. You still seem younger than your 17 years.

i love how youre blowing what i said completely out of proportion.. again. i didnt say anything about my mom being anything but hypocritical. that does not imply that she is "some evil monster" or "some kind of freak"...wtf? i do appreciate that she cares about me, but its still pretty hypocritical. its not like she yelled at me, she was just like "why do you have those?" so i was like "dont you smoke?"... its not like im doing it to be a rebel or something.. i enjoy it.. so does she.. whats the difference? btw, extremely under what age?
 

Saulbadguy

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If you smoke you are, or were retarded at some point. You pay someone else to slowly kill you. Yeah, that makes sense.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: caitlion
Originally posted by: xmellyx
She has every right to tell you what to do; she is your mother and you are extremely underage. Whether or not you heed her advice is a different story. But don't act as though she is some evil monster; you make it seem as though she is some kind of freak.

Having said that, I do enjoy the occasional cigarrette and then won't touch them for months, even years. One of my sisters, however, is a regular smoker, has been for years and years. Nobody else in the family --extended included--smokes. My mom says stuff like, "I'll kill her myself" or "Doesn't she know what she's doing to herself?" etc etc. yet the funny thing is she has never said anything to her face because she knows the choice lies within my sister--plus she's not 17, she's a grown adult. You still seem younger than your 17 years.

i love how youre blowing what i said completely out of proportion.. again. i didnt say anything about my mom being anything but hypocritical. that does not imply that she is "some evil monster" or "some kind of freak"...wtf? i do appreciate that she cares about me, but its still pretty hypocritical. its not like she yelled at me, she was just like "why do you have those?" so i was like "dont you smoke?"... its not like im doing it to be a rebel or something.. i enjoy it.. so does she.. whats the difference? btw, extremely under what age?

no it's not hypocritical, as i have explained before (perhaps you missed it). she feels you shouldn't be smoking because it's bad for you. similarly, i bet she feels she shouldn't be smoking either. no hypocrisy. now, if she felt you shouldn't be smoking, but that it was okay for her to smoke, then she would be a hypocrite. but in all likelihood, she knows she shouldn't be smoking too.

and by the way, what difference does it make, even if she was a hypocrite? she's still right, focusing on this alleged hypocrisy is just silly and irrelevant.
 
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