My new golf toy

Savij

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You would have gotten more out of $500 worth of lessons.

<-Was forced into golf lessons against his will.


After reading about it, it seems like a decent way to save money on new clubs in the long run.
 
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Even if I could afford a $500 driver, I wouldn't buy one. All the new golf club and golf ball technologies are making a mockery of the game. If baseball followed the golf model, players would be hitting 1000-ft home runs.
 

Baked

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Can't wait for that head to come flying outta the shaft and kill somebody.
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Even if I could afford a $500 driver, I wouldn't buy one. All the new golf club and golf ball technologies are making a mockery of the game. If baseball followed the golf model, players would be hitting 1000-ft homeruns.

And if golf followed the baseball model the average person wouldn't play once they're cut from the high school team?
 

Uppsala9496

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I used something similar about 4 years ago when I was trying to decide different driver head and shaft combo's.
Not sure I would spend money on something like this though. I found the head/shaft combo that works for me and wouldn't switch it for anything.
Oh and the best part is I only dropped $149 on it. Custom built to the length and cpm's I wanted on the shaft.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Baked
Can't wait for that head to come flying outta the shaft and kill somebody.
Doubt it. Pros are already using this club, and they swing a lot harder and more than any average golfer does.

You don't seriously think a bolt is more likely to break and let the club head fly than some glue, do you?
 

QueBert

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driver with interchangable weights? I didn't know Razer made non PC components. And to Pacfanweb I disagree, the few times (one I think) I golfed, I swung like I was trying to kill the ball. I would say my swing was a good 2x harder than Tigers best, factor in I have no idea how to swing to begin with, I'd be the perfect canidate to use this club and have the head come flying off lol.

 

Savij

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Originally posted by: QueBert
driver with interchangable weights? I didn't know Razer made non PC components. And to Pacfanweb I disagree, the few times (one I think) I golfed, I swung like I was trying to kill the ball. I would say my swing was a good 2x harder than Tigers best, factor in I have no idea how to swing to begin with, I'd be the perfect canidate to use this club and have the head come flying off lol.

Yeah, and the one time I tried wrestling I think would have ripped hulk hogan's arms off if I hadn't held back.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Baked
Can't wait for that head to come flying outta the shaft and kill somebody.
Doubt it. Pros are already using this club, and they swing a lot harder and more than any average golfer does.


Oh yeah? Name those pros?

This is a ridiculous concept marketed to suckers. The idea behind bolt-in shafts is to make things easier for clubfitters. It allows them to have a wide variety of head and shaft combinations without tying up a fortune in inventory.

Old way:

10 different shafts + 3 flexes of each + 10 different heads = 300 demo clubs.

New Way:

10 different shafts + 3 flexes of each + 10 different heads = The equivalent of 300 demo clubs while only stocking 30 shafts and 10 heads.


There is NO reason for an end user to have this system. Changing shafts the old-fashioned way is fine.

There are suckers born every minute and the golf industry is very happy to take their money.
 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Even if I could afford a $500 driver, I wouldn't buy one. All the new golf club and golf ball technologies are making a mockery of the game. If baseball followed the golf model, players would be hitting 1000-ft homeruns.

And if golf followed the baseball model the average person wouldn't play once they're cut from the high school team?

Sorry, but I'm kinda tired of hearing this elitist attitude. No amount of technology can make a golfer change his drive as dramatically as some people want to make you think. 20 extra yards? Maybe. A little straighter on off-center shots? Uhh... that's a good thing.

The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?
 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Baked
Can't wait for that head to come flying outta the shaft and kill somebody.
Doubt it. Pros are already using this club, and they swing a lot harder and more than any average golfer does.


Oh yeah? Name those pros?

This is a ridiculous concept marketed to suckers. The idea behind bolt-in shafts is to make things easier for clubfitters. It allows them to have a wide variety of head and shaft combinations without tying up a fortune in inventory.

Old way:

10 different shafts + 3 flexes of each + 10 different heads = 300 demo clubs.

New Way:

10 different shafts + 3 flexes of each + 10 different heads = The equivalent of 300 demo clubs while only stocking 30 shafts and 10 heads.


There is NO reason for an end user to have this system. Changing shafts the old-fashioned way is fine.

There are suckers born every minute and the golf industry is very happy to take their money.

What's the old way again? Epoxying shafts onto heads and risking damage to them when you try to replace the shaft?

No thanks.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: calbear2000


The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?

What color is the sky in your fantasy world? The game of golf has thrived for over 230 years. For 210 years the game thrived despite the players being forced to use feathery balls, hickory shafted irons, blades with ZERO forgiveness and drivers the size of a thimble. Oversized titanium drivers are only 10 years old and so are ProV1s. Effective cavity backed irons only date to the 1970s. MOI putters are about 8 years old. How did the game get from the late 1700's to now if the technology of the last few years is essential for survival? And despite all these modern marvels of engineering and space age materials the average golfer DOES NOT get any better. Handicaps have not dropped over the last 1o years when during that period the game has undergone the greatest technological leaps in its history. Know why? It's because you can't buy improvement. Too many players waste their money on crap like drivers with interchangable shafts rather than investing in lessons and custom fitting which would really help.

 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: calbear2000

What's the old way again? Epoxying shafts onto heads and risking damage to them when you try to replace the shaft?

No thanks.

Why exactly would you need to pull them? The idea is to GET FIT BY A PROFESSIONAL and to find the ideal shaft, have it installed and leave it there. Who on earth (besides you) buys 3 random shafts and thinks that he's going to find the right match just because he can screw another one in easily?

Anyone with an ounce of ability can pull tens of thousands of shafts without damaging them. If you got hoodwinked into buying junk like this because you've damaged a graphite shaft in the past you should have invested $50 in clubmaking lessons instead. Pulling shafts without trashing them is kids stuff. Thousands of people can do it in their sleep.

 

Savij

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: calbear2000


The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?

What color is the sky in your fantasy world? The game of golf has thrived for over 230 years. For 210 years the game thrived despite the players being forced to use feathery balls, hickory shafted irons, blades with ZERO forgiveness and drivers the size of a thimble. Oversized titanium drivers are only 10 years old and so are ProV1s. Effective cavity backed irons only date to the 1970s. MOI putters are about 8 years old. How did the game get from the late 1700's to now if the technology of the last few years is essential for survival? And despite all these modern marvels of engineering and space age materials the average golfer DOES NOT get any better. Handicaps have not dropped over the last 1o years when during that period the game has undergone the greatest technological leaps in its history. Know why? It's because you can't buy improvement. Too many players waste their money on crap like drivers with interchangable shafts rather than investing in lessons and custom fitting which would really help.

Yeah, I totally agree. Golf went downhill ever since the invention of the hickory golf club.
 

coldmeat

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I buy my clubs at the end of the season when I can get them on sale. I bought my Nike driver for $160 on sale from $400 a few years ago. I just buy the last year's tech at a lower price.
 

richardycc

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man, I need to create a driver w/ interchangeable grip...and a putter with telecoping shaft for long, belly and conventional putts.
 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: calbear2000


The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?

What color is the sky in your fantasy world? The game of golf has thrived for over 230 years. For 210 years the game thrived despite the players being forced to use feathery balls, hickory shafted irons, blades with ZERO forgiveness and drivers the size of a thimble. Oversized titanium drivers are only 10 years old and so are ProV1s. Effective cavity backed irons only date to the 1970s. MOI putters are about 8 years old. How did the game get from the late 1700's to now if the technology of the last few years is essential for survival? And despite all these modern marvels of engineering and space age materials the average golfer DOES NOT get any better. Handicaps have not dropped over the last 1o years when during that period the game has undergone the greatest technological leaps in its history. Know why? It's because you can't buy improvement. Too many players waste their money on crap like drivers with interchangable shafts rather than investing in lessons and custom fitting which would really help.

Oh the irony. Now you're saying all this technology and innovation is useless and "you can't buy improvement". And a few posts prior, you said the golf-like innovation in baseball would cause 1000-ft homeruns.

Hyperbole much?
 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: calbear2000

What's the old way again? Epoxying shafts onto heads and risking damage to them when you try to replace the shaft?

No thanks.

Why exactly would you need to pull them? The idea is to GET FIT BY A PROFESSIONAL and to find the ideal shaft, have it installed and leave it there. Who on earth (besides you) buys 3 random shafts and thinks that he's going to find the right match just because he can screw another one in easily?

Anyone with an ounce of ability can pull tens of thousands of shafts without damaging them. If you got hoodwinked into buying junk like this because you've damaged a graphite shaft in the past you should have invested $50 in clubmaking lessons instead. Pulling shafts without trashing them is kids stuff. Thousands of people can do it in their sleep.

Good for you that you've never damaged a shaft while pulling it. Seriously.
 
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Originally posted by: calbear2000
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: calbear2000


The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?

What color is the sky in your fantasy world? The game of golf has thrived for over 230 years. For 210 years the game thrived despite the players being forced to use feathery balls, hickory shafted irons, blades with ZERO forgiveness and drivers the size of a thimble. Oversized titanium drivers are only 10 years old and so are ProV1s. Effective cavity backed irons only date to the 1970s. MOI putters are about 8 years old. How did the game get from the late 1700's to now if the technology of the last few years is essential for survival? And despite all these modern marvels of engineering and space age materials the average golfer DOES NOT get any better. Handicaps have not dropped over the last 1o years when during that period the game has undergone the greatest technological leaps in its history. Know why? It's because you can't buy improvement. Too many players waste their money on crap like drivers with interchangable shafts rather than investing in lessons and custom fitting which would really help.

Oh the irony. Now you're saying all this technology and innovation is useless and "you can't buy improvement". And a few posts prior, you said the golf-like innovation in baseball would cause 1000-ft homeruns.

Hyperbole much?
No, I was the one who said that.

 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: calbear2000
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: calbear2000


The USGA puts in these ridiculous rules to outlaw any innovation that golf club companies come up with. Citing the "integrity of the game" - they're in for a rude awakening when they realize beginners give up on the game because it's too frustrating. Why not let these companies innovate and help your amateur golfer enjoy the game.

For anyone who says technology leads to a "mockery of the game," do you want to keep golf for the elite few? Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden?

What color is the sky in your fantasy world? The game of golf has thrived for over 230 years. For 210 years the game thrived despite the players being forced to use feathery balls, hickory shafted irons, blades with ZERO forgiveness and drivers the size of a thimble. Oversized titanium drivers are only 10 years old and so are ProV1s. Effective cavity backed irons only date to the 1970s. MOI putters are about 8 years old. How did the game get from the late 1700's to now if the technology of the last few years is essential for survival? And despite all these modern marvels of engineering and space age materials the average golfer DOES NOT get any better. Handicaps have not dropped over the last 1o years when during that period the game has undergone the greatest technological leaps in its history. Know why? It's because you can't buy improvement. Too many players waste their money on crap like drivers with interchangable shafts rather than investing in lessons and custom fitting which would really help.

Oh the irony. Now you're saying all this technology and innovation is useless and "you can't buy improvement". And a few posts prior, you said the golf-like innovation in baseball would cause 1000-ft homeruns.

Hyperbole much?
No, I was the one who said that.

Oops... my bad Random Variable. I'm with you then I guess. You can buy improvement.

Gag should just throw away those shiny steel shafts and that fancy space-age titanium lol.
 
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