My new golf toy

[dud]

Technology is no replacement for skill.

Sorry ...

 

[everman]

Why would a pro use this? Pros can have as many shaft/head combos they want, they're free.
Most golfers should be well off with one driver that has been custom fitted for them. Some extremely good golfers will benefit from a second custom club made to create a certain shot they want.

 

[Kyle]

I don't know why so many people here are sooo polarized with their opinions on lessons vs equipment...
Yeah, for most people lessons will most likley take more strokes off their game compared to just buying new clubs- however that doesnt mean a lot of people would NOT see improvment w/ new clubs...Personally, I shoot in the high 80's low 90's (not too great by any means), and have noticed *significant* improvment from changing my equipment- found a driver that I could control a lot better than my old one, got a new wedge that gives me a lot more spin etc etc...not to mention the difference finding a putter you're comfortable with can have
I dont think it has to be one or the other- if you find a new club that works well for your swing, then yeah, it can improve your game/score.

I agree lessons are probably going to have a much better effect on your game overall, but why be soo negative on the new equipment saying that it won't make any difference at all...I mean I've walked away from some lessons that left me all confused/out of rythem that actually *hurt* my score...but I think that time I just had a bad teacher

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Kyle
I don't know why so many people here are sooo polarized with their opinions on lessons vs equipment...
Yeah, for most people lessons will most likley take more strokes off their game compared to just buying new clubs- however that doesnt mean a lot of people would NOT see improvment w/ new clubs..

A person is just as likely to get worse with a new club. If you don't believe that check out the used club market on e-bay. If you're just throwing darts at an equipment catalog in the hopes of getting better you're an idiot. It's that simple. The way to get a club that suits your swing is to get fit and the way to learn to use that club effectively is through lessons. Buying three random clubs in one just means that you're three times more stupid than a person that buys one random club. You can buy 1000 random clubs and not find one that's going to optimize your launch conditions. There's not a good player on earth that doesn't understand that simple concept. If you see a person buying a club without a fitting in the hopes that it might make him better he's nothing but a hacker and will never get beyond that level.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Kyle
I don't know why so many people here are sooo polarized with their opinions on lessons vs equipment...
Yeah, for most people lessons will most likley take more strokes off their game compared to just buying new clubs- however that doesnt mean a lot of people would NOT see improvment w/ new clubs..

A person is just as likely to get worse with a new club. If you don't believe that check out the used club market on e-bay. If you're just throwing darts at an equipment catalog in the hopes of getting better you're an idiot. It's that simple. The way to get a club that suits your swing is to get fit and the way to learn to use that club effectively is through lessons. Buying three random clubs in one just means that you're three times more stupid than a person that buys one random club. You can buy 1000 random clubs and not find one that's going to optimize your launch conditions. There's not a good player on earth that doesn't understand that simple concept. If you see a person buying a club without a fitting in the hopes that it might make him better he's nothing but a hacker and will never get beyond that level.

Nice. Calling people who can afford to buy golf toys stupid idiots. Have fun with your 8-year old clubs lol

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Kyle
I don't know why so many people here are sooo polarized with their opinions on lessons vs equipment...
Yeah, for most people lessons will most likley take more strokes off their game compared to just buying new clubs- however that doesnt mean a lot of people would NOT see improvment w/ new clubs...Personally, I shoot in the high 80's low 90's (not too great by any means), and have noticed *significant* improvment from changing my equipment- found a driver that I could control a lot better than my old one, got a new wedge that gives me a lot more spin etc etc...not to mention the difference finding a putter you're comfortable with can have
I dont think it has to be one or the other- if you find a new club that works well for your swing, then yeah, it can improve your game/score.

I agree lessons are probably going to have a much better effect on your game overall, but why be soo negative on the new equipment saying that it won't make any difference at all...I mean I've walked away from some lessons that left me all confused/out of rythem that actually *hurt* my score...but I think that time I just had a bad teacher

Well-said. Both lessons and better equipment can improve your game obviously. Some people are just really emotionally attached to their own clubs and need to justify their lack of recent club purchases

Anecdotally, I've gained about 20 yards on my drive from better swing mechanics and shaft fitting (via a few trips and lessons from my local club fitter). And I've also gained about 20 yards on my drive from using a driver head that dominates long drive competitions (the same manufacturer that I bought the interchangeable driver from)

 

[meltdown75]

i still haven't touched a club this year. local courses are breathing a sigh of relief.

summer hockey FTW

 

[XZeroII]

wow...who would have thought that golf could make people so violent. I'm almost expecting to see a fight erupt here.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I'm not as wound up on this subject as GagHalfrunt seems to be but I do kind of agree with him. Technology only matters if you can already play.

Older clubs + lessons > New clubs + same bad habits

Case in point: I have Calloway irons and a one year old Taylor Made R7 driver... and I still suck. I jump up and down and squeal like a little girl when I hit in the 90s.

That said, there have been some advances in club technology that do make the game a bit easier for the average duffer. My old driver had a fairly small head and I couldn't hit it to save my life. My R7 has a ginormous head and I can hit it fairly effectively.

I'm sure the OP's new toy is cool but I really don't have any idea why you would ever change out the shafts. Seems to me you'd experiment a little bit, find the one that works best for you and stick with it.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Savij
You would have gotten more out of $500 worth of lessons.

<-Was forced into golf lessons against his will.


After reading about it, it seems like a decent way to save money on new clubs in the long run.

It's not really about saving as being able to sneak in stuff.

When has golf been economical?

 

[IGBT]

..I hear all you really need for golf is a single 7 iron to play the whole game. All the other clubs are just to fill the bag.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..I hear all you really need for golf is a single 7 iron to play the whole game. All the other clubs are just to fill the bag.

playing like that is a lot of fun. when i used to play in a league we'd have a night where you select one club and a putter for the round. lots of fun, and you learn that you can par even par 5s with a 7-iron. very interesting way to learn more about your game.

 

[MyThirdEye]

very nice. my friend has the interchangeable FTI

 

[alkemyst]

Maybe golf is different down here, but at about $80-100 for a day of golf; a $500 driver doesn't seem that crazy. Heck some on this board are dropping $500+ on video cards and CPU's every 3-6 months and they still live at home.

Golf technology is being pushed more and more now as the game has gotten a lot more popular in the last 10-20 years. It's gone from something only the 'boss' played to something even the blue collar guy can enjoy.

Golf is not for me though, I am surrounded by it though and my friends and family have spent anywhere from a couple hundred bucks to several thousands of dollars on equipment. There cash outlay seems to have no bearing on their handicaps by much.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Maybe golf is different down here, but at about $80-100 for a day of golf; a $500 driver doesn't seem that crazy. Heck some on this board are dropping $500+ on video cards and CPU's every 3-6 months and they still live at home.

Golf technology is being pushed more and more now as the game has gotten a lot more popular in the last 10-20 years. It's gone from something only the 'boss' played to something even the blue collar guy can enjoy.

Golf is not for me though, I am surrounded by it though and my friends and family have spent anywhere from a couple hundred bucks to several thousands of dollars on equipment. There cash outlay seems to have no bearing on their handicaps by much.

you just got a quadruple grammar-bogey on that last sentence

 

[ObiDon]

you would have to be incredibly bad at [random activity] to not be able to tell the difference between high and low end equipment.
sure, it's true that expensive equipment doesn't magically make you fantastic. however, that's because being great at golf requires goofy pants and a big fat ass. no clubs, no matter how uber they are, come with either of those things in the package.

 

[dbk]

<golf clap>

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Maybe golf is different down here, but at about $80-100 for a day of golf; a $500 driver doesn't seem that crazy. Heck some on this board are dropping $500+ on video cards and CPU's every 3-6 months and they still live at home.

Golf technology is being pushed more and more now as the game has gotten a lot more popular in the last 10-20 years. It's gone from something only the 'boss' played to something even the blue collar guy can enjoy.

Golf is not for me though, I am surrounded by it though and my friends and family have spent anywhere from a couple hundred bucks to several thousands of dollars on equipment. There cash outlay seems to have no bearing on their handicaps by much.

you just got a quadruple grammar-bogey on that last sentence

rough morning I was a bit hungover...just got done with my yard and rehydrated, now it's relax/beer time again. Bonus was some teenager pinched my butt at the 7-11 while I was picking up some supplies for my liver therapy.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: amjohns5
very nice. my friend has the interchangeable FTI

Thanks. Took it to the course over the weekend. Got a lot of attention on the driving range as I mucked around with different shafts. After a few shots with each flex, I determined the regular works best for me (and all along I thought I was a stiff flex).

This driver (Alpha) is loooooong.

 

[ObiDon]

does it come with a cordless screwdriver?

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: ObiDon
you would have to be incredibly bad at [random activity] to not be able to tell the difference between high and low end equipment.
sure, it's true that expensive equipment doesn't magically make you fantastic. however, that's because being great at golf requires goofy pants and a big fat ass. no clubs, no matter how uber they are, come with either of those things in the package.

LOL

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: everman
Why would a pro use this? Pros can have as many shaft/head combos they want, they're free.
Most golfers should be well off with one driver that has been custom fitted for them. Some extremely good golfers will benefit from a second custom club made to create a certain shot they want.

he wouldn't spend $500 on something the Pro's don't use that's absurd! The more you spend the better it is, if you spend that much it should be obvious it's the same shit a Tiger Woods or that fat Australian dude with the drinking problem (shoot me I don't know golfers names...) uses.

a better question why the fuck does Tiger Woods have his own Gatorade that contains extra Electrolytes? I had no idea Golf was so physical! He doesn't even carry his own bag for shits sake. Yet his drink has extra Electrolytes, must be for all the strenuous "walking" he does.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Kyle
I don't know why so many people here are sooo polarized with their opinions on lessons vs equipment...
Yeah, for most people lessons will most likley take more strokes off their game compared to just buying new clubs- however that doesnt mean a lot of people would NOT see improvment w/ new clubs...Personally, I shoot in the high 80's low 90's (not too great by any means), and have noticed *significant* improvment from changing my equipment- found a driver that I could control a lot better than my old one, got a new wedge that gives me a lot more spin etc etc...not to mention the difference finding a putter you're comfortable with can have
I dont think it has to be one or the other- if you find a new club that works well for your swing, then yeah, it can improve your game/score.

I agree lessons are probably going to have a much better effect on your game overall, but why be soo negative on the new equipment saying that it won't make any difference at all...I mean I've walked away from some lessons that left me all confused/out of rythem that actually *hurt* my score...but I think that time I just had a bad teacher

I haven't read the thread past yours so forgive me if I'm being redundant.

New clubs can improve your game, but it isn't because they are new IMHO. You can just as easily get new clubs that are harm your game - it's a crap shoot as far as that is concerned.

The technology available today is really great, but it doesn't mean squat if your swing is off. I know, my swing has a few tweaks that I need to work on and no club is going to fix that. Sure some of the newer clubs are more "forgiving" and I sure as hell don't hit that perfect shot but maybe once per hole. If that.

If you're shooting in the high 80s/low 90s then get your swing and clubs to match it. My guess on your scoring is you have trouble hitting greens. Just my two cents.

Last bit of advice, short game/putting and you'll lower your score tremendously. I emphasize with you as my short game sucks donkeys.