My new SSD is unbelievably fast!

jez006

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I've never seen a computer this fast. Everything opens instantly...

It only took a few minutes to install photoshop and it takes less than 3 seconds to open from a cold start...

This is the single best purchase I have ever made for my computer.

Specs:

Intel E8400 3Ghz OC to 3.5Ghz
Asus rampage formula mobo
4gb 800mhz ddr2 ocz reaper ram
evga 8800gts gpu
ssd - ocz vertex 2 60gb
windows 7 professional 64 bit

This ssd gets a windows rating of 7.7

As with all fresh installs with new hardware I ran into a couple of problems (you've probably noticed my other threads), but everything has been sorted today.

Buy an SSD! You won't regret it. If you truly have patience then wait a few months for the next generation of SSDs.

I couldn't wait but I don't regret it one bit!

I'll keep you guys updated on how it's running after a while.
 

Infrnl

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congrats! Crazy you only get a rating of 7.7; what does it take to get max rating. Raid0
 

Zap

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I've never seen a computer this fast. Everything opens instantly...
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This is the single best purchase I have ever made for my computer.

That's what we try to tell people.
 

OCGuy

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Welcome to the club.

People sitting on the sideline are either dense, not enthusiasts, or just don't have it in their budget right now (totally understantable in this economy.)


I still have not seen as big of a performance jump on a computer since I went from P4 --> Overclocked Conroe.
 

Imperceptible

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People sitting on the sideline are either dense, not enthusiasts, or just don't have it in their budget right now (totally understantable in this economy.).

Or kind of had the budget but knew that soon enough, prices would drop (and performance/features would increase) substantially, then decided it was too close to the next big jump (Q4 2010/Q1 2011) in SSDs and decided to wait until then

That and the fact that, that is when I have planned to build a new PC haha.
 

Burner27

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Single crucial c300 256GB ssd on sata 3 interface give me 7.9.

I am not knocking you but the WEI does what, really? Nothing.

I have an Intel 80GB X25 G2 drive on SATA3 that gives me 7.8. I never think that any numbers the WEI reports are helpful.
 

bamacre

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Or kind of had the budget but knew that soon enough, prices would drop (and performance/features would increase) substantially, then decided it was too close to the next big jump (Q4 2010/Q1 2011) in SSDs and decided to wait until then

That and the fact that, that is when I have planned to build a new PC haha.

That's where I am. I plan on getting a new PC in the middle of next year. Looking forward to Sandy Bridge, SATA3 & SSD, and whatever video card is best at the time.
 

tweakboy

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Very cool man, Im glad your enjoying your new SSD.


As for me the budget is not there nor is the drive capacity that I require. I need 320GB SSD but not for 400 dollars but 100 dollars, then I will upgrade until then Im cool. F4 is doing me good I see speed improvement Thunderbird used to take 3 and half second off a fresh reboot and not touch PC for 15 minutes. With the F4 it takes 1 and half seconds on first launch.

I had nice images,, if ya know what I mean,, and I had couple which would take a split second to 1 second to maximize .... now it does it instantly. Soo Im happy. As for bootup I really don't care. It takes 50 seconds using winbootinfo . Im cool Ill go make coffee come back then let system rest for 10 minutes to do its thrashing,, then Im set...

Still if you have a SSD but low RAM then its a bottleneck. I see peeps with 4GB even 2GB RAM but with a SSD. For Windows 7, 4GB RAM is bare minimum. I noticed a difference going to 8GB. Well I do DAW and what not soo I noticed difference immediately. But once you have enough memory then that SSD is gonna make your system fly as far opening data files etc.. Sad part with a 60GB thats only lenough for the OS imo ,,, programs have to still be on another drive and games too, Write now on my primary drive Im using up 170GB. So 60GB falls short, I need to wait for the 320GB third generation. Then again I dont have 400 to spend on this I rather spend 200 and get a GTX460 and make my 8800GT do phsyic. Thanks and gb
 

billyb0b

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awesome!

i'm at 7.3 with a corsair force series 60gb. have a 1tb samsung f3 in there for data too so i'm guessing that pulled me down to 7.3

agreed though, one of the best bang for the buck upgrades!
 

heymrdj

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Me and my workmate just bought the vertex 2 60gb's yesterday. Can't wait to get them. Sadly mines for my netbook, i think his is going into his main rig. I would need at least 180GB in an SSD and the budget is just not there right now . Oh how I wish though...

Still, can't wait to see the speed of my netbook and know that I won't destroy it with movement (nearly crashed the drive when it turned on in my bag the other day, after slinging around the drive has bad sectors).
 

ViviTheMage

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Welcome to the club.

People sitting on the sideline are either dense, not enthusiasts, or just don't have it in their budget right now (totally understantable in this economy.)


I still have not seen as big of a performance jump on a computer since I went from P4 --> Overclocked Conroe.

Ditto, and I went AMD BARTON 3000 to CONROE ... that was huge....not as huge as going mechanical to SSD though.
 

FishAk

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Still if you have a SSD but low RAM then its a bottleneck. I see peeps with 4GB even 2GB RAM but with a SSD. For Windows 7, 4GB RAM is bare minimum. I noticed a difference going to 8GB.

You noticed a difference because Superfetch uses your extra memory, not because Windows needs 4gb. Windows 7 only needs about 1Gb.

If your applications don't require more memory (your system isn't swapping files), than it's much more economical to use an SSD than buying more memory just for Superfetch. Memory is about $20/Gb, while an SSD is about $2/Gb.


Write now on my primary drive Im using up 170GB.

If you removed the stuff that doesn't benefit so much from an SSD, you would easily have less than 40Gb on your primary partition, and that would fit on a $120 SSD right now, with room to spare.
 

heymrdj

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You noticed a difference because Superfetch uses your extra memory, not because Windows needs 4gb. Windows 7 only needs about 1Gb.

If your applications don't require more memory (your system isn't swapping files), than it's much more economical to use an SSD than buying more memory just for Superfetch. Memory is about $20/Gb, while an SSD is about $2/Gb.




If you removed the stuff that doesn't benefit so much from an SSD, you would easily have less than 40Gb on your primary partition, and that would fit on a $120 SSD right now, with room to spare.

Win 7 with shadowing for backup is 20-25GB. My CS5 for work is 11GB, my one most played game Joint Operations with its mods are 18GB. Office 2007 Ultimate for access and BCM is another 1.7GB. Just with the four applications I have to use daily I shot way over 40GB. I have plenty of apps that are used on a every-other if not daily basis totaling about another 60GB. I could consider maybe a 100GB SSD but that's about as low as I could go.
 

capeconsultant

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I am getting me 8 G3's in RAID 10 and will break the entire "thermometer". A score or 9.9!

Oh, wait a minute, I am awake. Nevermind
 

Malladine

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Two questions about SSDs: 1. what kind of lifespan should I expect under heavy use and 2. are the speed benefits seen while gaming??
 

heymrdj

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Two questions about SSDs: 1. what kind of lifespan should I expect under heavy use and 2. are the speed benefits seen while gaming??

An SSD under heavy use (a quality with a good garbage collecting controller) will see lifespan of 5 years plus easily, 10 years I think is the average rating.

As for gaming, it helps games with smaller files, map loads, and that sort of thing. In large maps where your system cannot hold the entire scene in memory, the SSD will help make the transition into the new area of map seamless but that's about it. Gaming is pretty much load times only.
 

FishAk

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Win 7 with shadowing for backup is 20-25GB. My CS5 for work is 11GB, my one most played game Joint Operations with its mods are 18GB. Office 2007 Ultimate for access and BCM is another 1.7GB. Just with the four applications I have to use daily I shot way over 40GB.

Download GetFolderSize, and point it to your OS partition.

I think you will find that you have scratch and cache folders that have large files in them. The CS5 Professional install only required 1Gb hard drive space. Also, most, if not all, games load sequentially, so they don't benefit that much from an SSD.

The magic of an SSD is it's low access time for random files. This means that for small files, like those heavly used by your OS and your programs, the SSD is more than 100 times faster than an SSD. For files larger than about 32K, however, the SSD is at best, only twice as fast as a modern HDD.

I think that if you used GetFolderSize to identify where your large files are taking up all your room, and you moved those files to another partition, you would find that your OS/programs partition wouldn't be much more than 20Gb.
 

fuzzymath10

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Big game files don't seem to load any faster for me (maybe a tad) but Windows and productivity/media apps (Office 2010, Adobe programs, browsers, media players) are much smoother to launch and use. It's about hourglass/drive LED syndrome. You could also leave your PC on all the time and load everything into memory and it might be similar (with a large enough USB key + readyboost I noticed all my programs launching from the flash drives after loading once from the hard drive), but my usage patterns aren't suited to that.

SSDs also have lower total power usage (could spike, but for shorter periods than hdds), no noise, no spinup/down delays, and higher reliability (other than bad firmware, the more worrisome long term wear from writes is probably a non-issue with modern controllers except in super-extreme load situations).
 

heymrdj

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Download GetFolderSize, and point it to your OS partition.

I think you will find that you have scratch and cache folders that have large files in them. The CS5 Professional install only required 1Gb hard drive space. Also, most, if not all, games load sequentially, so they don't benefit that much from an SSD.

The magic of an SSD is it's low access time for random files. This means that for small files, like those heavly used by your OS and your programs, the SSD is more than 100 times faster than an SSD. For files larger than about 32K, however, the SSD is at best, only twice as fast as a modern HDD.

I think that if you used GetFolderSize to identify where your large files are taking up all your room, and you moved those files to another partition, you would find that your OS/programs partition wouldn't be much more than 20Gb.

I Have CS5 masters. My older games also use smaller files which is why an SSD helps them. Especially ones like UT2004, who's own install can be made up of so many small files it's installer will crash on a AMD software RAID 0 that can't keep up. UT2004 is 20GB in itself of levels and mods. Joint Operations as well is made up of an unpacked file at start up. The levels are compiled on start and require a tremendous amount of randoms. The levels themselves are only 60-300kb. It's their compilation that's murder. The difference was huge when I went from a single 1TB black to 4 500 Blacks in RAID 0. Used to it would take about 65-80 seconds to load a level, with the RAID 0 it's down to about 30-40 seconds.
 

heymrdj

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I ran the tool and it pretyt much came out as i thought. 21.8GB for Windows, 1.1GB for Office (not including my 5.1GB PST file), 17.39GB for Joint Operations, and 14.37GB for UT 2004. Then there's the 15.43GB XP Mode.

Oh yeah just noticed adobe, you were more right on that one than I was. It's 5.08GB plus 2.84GB for it's other folder.

EDIT EDIT: WOOT FOR PLATINUM!
 
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