my parents are getting a Corolla

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: angminas
OP- If your parents didn't beat this attitude out of you, it's really more their fault than yours. But you're old and smart enough to look in the mirror and do something about it. See the situation for what it is and learn to respect and appreciate more than you do now, or your kids will have the same whiny attitude when you spend many thousands of dollars on their entitled butts. You'll see then how wrongheaded you are being now. But it doesn't have to be that way if you decide to change.

Corporate Thug, and others who think this way- it's not always doing your kids a favor to give as much as you can. Case in point- the OP. He's obviously spoiled from his parents doing too much for him. Is that what you want for your kids? You can't give your kids character by giving them stuff (or doing their homework for them or any number of other kinds of ass-wiping), but you can most definitely make it harder for them to develop it. Consider these scenarios:

1. You buy your kid any brand new car they want. Most kids aren't ready to respect or take care of such a huge investment anyway (and judging by what you think is a good way to help your kids, yours probably aren't / won't be), and new cars tend to be way overpowered, so they probably crash it, maybe hurting themselves or others. Even if not, your kid learns that (since many other people don't have a nice new car, even when they're older) they're better than everyone else, and all they need to do to get ahead in the world is run to Daddy.

2. You offer to match whatever your kid saves for a car, as long as they keep their grades up, and as long as you get to veto the purchase if absolutely necessary (maybe not have that part, it will depend on the kid and how well you're raising them). You will need to establish this when they're younger so they have time to save, obviously. They have to learn how to look for a car and decide whether to buy it after they find it. They will learn to tell the difference between a bad CV joint and a bad alignment, between a bad battery and a bad alternator. They have to work hard and learn to budget time and money to meet goals. They will learn about different insurance costs. They will learn to respect you and how hard you've had to work to make your money. If they learn this and more, and they finally find a car they like and have the money in hand- if they've matured enough- then maybe surprise them with a new car of the same model they wanted, tell them to invest their money, and talk to them about why you did it this way and what they learned along the way, and how they should do the same for their kids.

If they haven't matured enough, you can still just match the original deal, and you'll be doing much more for them than you ever could by just giving them a handout far beyond what their actions have merited. You can only help people so much before your help turns into hurt. Welfare society and entitlement and all that. Don't teach your kids to look for a handout.

Very good points angminas.

Of course, I don't have kids and I have much to learn about rearing them but let me ask a question: Is it not possible to rear children in a manner in which they can receive a nice car (the one they want) and yet they appreciate the car and the person who made it possible without feeling that they are better than anyone else?

As far as the second scenario, grades and education has always been priority #1. In fact, the reason my parents helped my pay for my first car was because I couldn't efficiently make it from school to work to home. I imagine everything above and beyond the basic necessities of life would be based on grades/academic performance.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: angminas
OP- If your parents didn't beat this attitude out of you, it's really more their fault than yours. But you're old and smart enough to look in the mirror and do something about it. See the situation for what it is and learn to respect and appreciate more than you do now, or your kids will have the same whiny attitude when you spend many thousands of dollars on their entitled butts. You'll see then how wrongheaded you are being now. But it doesn't have to be that way if you decide to change.

Corporate Thug, and others who think this way- it's not always doing your kids a favor to give as much as you can. Case in point- the OP. He's obviously spoiled from his parents doing too much for him. Is that what you want for your kids? You can't give your kids character by giving them stuff (or doing their homework for them or any number of other kinds of ass-wiping), but you can most definitely make it harder for them to develop it. Consider these scenarios:

1. You buy your kid any brand new car they want. Most kids aren't ready to respect or take care of such a huge investment anyway (and judging by what you think is a good way to help your kids, yours probably aren't / won't be), and new cars tend to be way overpowered, so they probably crash it, maybe hurting themselves or others. Even if not, your kid learns that (since many other people don't have a nice new car, even when they're older) they're better than everyone else, and all they need to do to get ahead in the world is run to Daddy.

2. You offer to match whatever your kid saves for a car, as long as they keep their grades up, and as long as you get to veto the purchase if absolutely necessary (maybe not have that part, it will depend on the kid and how well you're raising them). You will need to establish this when they're younger so they have time to save, obviously. They have to learn how to look for a car and decide whether to buy it after they find it. They will learn to tell the difference between a bad CV joint and a bad alignment, between a bad battery and a bad alternator. They have to work hard and learn to budget time and money to meet goals. They will learn about different insurance costs. They will learn to respect you and how hard you've had to work to make your money. If they learn this and more, and they finally find a car they like and have the money in hand- if they've matured enough- then maybe surprise them with a new car of the same model they wanted, tell them to invest their money, and talk to them about why you did it this way and what they learned along the way, and how they should do the same for their kids.

If they haven't matured enough, you can still just match the original deal, and you'll be doing much more for them than you ever could by just giving them a handout far beyond what their actions have merited. You can only help people so much before your help turns into hurt. Welfare society and entitlement and all that. Don't teach your kids to look for a handout.

Very good points angminas.

Of course, I don't have kids and I have much to learn about rearing them but let me ask a question: Is it not possible to rear children in a manner in which they can receive a nice car (the one they want) and yet they appreciate the car and the person who made it possible without feeling that they are better than anyone else?

As far as the second scenario, grades and education has always been priority #1. In fact, the reason my parents helped my pay for my first car was because I couldn't efficiently make it from school to work to home. I imagine everything above and beyond the basic necessities of life would be based on grades/academic performance.

Not sure about that... you might be on to something there.

You have people who's parents buy them a new Mercedes when they turn 16, and they think they are better than everyone else because their car cost more than some kids' parents' house.

On the other hand, you have people like me who didn't get squat from their parents, who learned to make it on their own, who finally excel and blow passed those that looked down upon them, and think they are better than everyone else because they did it themselves.

*shrug*

 

[ManBearPig]

Well, they just bought the car.

I feel kind of guilty for even posting this...all they wanted to do was make me happy by buying me a car...something I didn?t deserve to being with. I know they feel terrible because they didn't get me what I wanted (a Camry, and no I don?t want them to feel terrible, that?s just how they are). I felt bad when she called me and was telling me how much she likes it (to make me happy) and told me to say thanks to my dad because he got me a new car (and I would have anyway). I told them thanks and was happy (and yes I am happy) and that it's not my car and that I want to share with them.

I'm not a person who expects my parents to buy me huge things, and when they do, I get embarrassed.

Needless to say, regardless of what you have been telling me (which I am thankful for; it reinforces what I?ve learned today and do unfortunately learn occasionally) I would've felt bad for wanting anything more and thinking anything less of them.

I know that they work their asses off just to make me and my siblings happy, and that whatever I get I should be grateful for (especially seeing how bad other people's lives are).

I guess I?ll post this on the 1st page so I don?t get any more ****** from you guys (because I really am not like that, this just came off bad, although I do deserve it).

Thanks and sorry to upset anyone. Oh, and she wants to buy another.

 

[Platypus]

You can hear the backpedal from three states over.

You came off as a spoiled dick, you can't just claim otherwise after getting a dose of reality from about 50 people :roll:

 

[sniperruff]

lol OP got ownt pretty hard.

<--- looking for a used 97'-99' maxima as my first car =]

with my own money

 

[invidia]

My log cabin with no roof just got an Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. It's now a 2 story house with 3 bedrooms and 2 baths. Brand new everything. I'm disappointed that I didn't get an extra bathroom.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
lol OP got ownt pretty hard.

<--- looking for a used 97'-99' maxima as my first car =]

with my own money

good choice :thumbsup:

Thats what I was first looking for and always regretted not going thru with the purchase.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: jmanny

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: jmanny
People like you usually end up like this:


http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longi...28,0,2833163.story?coll=ny-main-bigpix


Whiney Biatch

What the fck does that have to do with the OP not getting what he wants?

Because usually someone who is acting as spoiled as the OP, will not be able to handle something like a BMW or other high performance car, because they are not mature enough for it. They will abuse the trust a parent will extend to them and do something like the two young men from the article. The OP needs to learn to be grateful. Does that explain it for you?

I understand your reasoning, but it's a big leap from a kid not wanting a Corolla to a kid being immature and not being to handle a $50,000 BMW.

 

[holden j caufield]

Sweet sixteen generation

 

[Fayd]

i graduated highschool in 2003, driving an '84 camry... (my parents)

my parents, a few years ago, bought my brother a '01 mustang GT... ( >.> )

so, i got the car they had bought for him to drive while in college... '00 Corolla.

good thing to, the camry got totalled as soon as we told the insurance company about the big bash in the side.

apparently at some point i'm "supposed" to get a new(used) car of my choice from my parents... dont know if i will.. doesnt really matter to me either. a 2000 corolla is a nice car! at least compared to an 84 camry with no working AC

 

[Cabages]

lol, that sucks.

Ive got my dad currently looking at:

Audi TT

Toyota MR2

Possibly a cheaper Porsche

Various BMW's

And im gonna make him test drive the RX-7 while were trying out some of the others.

 

[angminas]

Originally posted by: Platypus
You can hear the backpedal from three states over.

You came off as a spoiled dick, you can't just claim otherwise after getting a dose of reality from about 50 people :roll:

Hey, at least he was man enough to admit when he was wrong. He was supposed to backpedal. And, as I said above, his (now apparently former) attitude is probably only marginally his fault anyway. I think he's been harshed enough, don't you agree?

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: Heen05
because i was supposed to get a new car, and i do not want this one lol.

oh well. guess ill take my dads car, which i don't really want either.


UPDATE: Well, they just bought the car.

I feel kind of guilty for even posting this...all they wanted to do was make me happy by buying me a car...something I didn?t deserve to being with. I know they feel terrible because they didn't get me what I wanted (a Camry, and no I don?t want them to feel terrible, that?s just how they are). I felt bad when she called me and was telling me how much she likes it (to make me happy) and told me to say thanks to my dad because he got me a new car (and I would have anyway). I told them thanks and was happy (and yes I am happy) and that it's not my car and that I want to share with them.

you make me sick, you should shut up and be happy with your new car @$$hat, no matter how much your parents make they forked a good % of their salary over to buy you that car you didnt want, the least you could do is say thanks you spoiled piece of crap


sorry for the flame, i just hate selfish kids like you, BFD if its "not your car". you got it for free, because you were born into your parents generosity

ps. I just graduated college and in the next few years i am going to buy "my car" with my own money that i earned, and i'll be more satisfied driving the car that i earned than if my parents ever bought it for me, but i guess you'll never experience that because your parents will probably just buy whatever the f@ck you want and not make you work because they'll feel bad.

 

[ManBearPig]

sweet jesus...i tried apologizing. did my apology too sound bad (because quoted partially like above it seems like im unhappy; i was just unhappy that i was being a dick and that i was ashamed, and i did not what them to think i was upset)?

i really am happy lol.

 

[Skunkwourk]

SKoorb

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: Heen05
sweet jesus...i tried apologizing. did my apology too sound bad (because quoted partially like above it seems like im unhappy; i was just unhappy that i was being a dick and that i was ashamed, and i did not what them to think i was upset)?

i really am happy lol.

yes you still sounded ingrateful in your response, and i'm sorry for being harsh but you need to understand that you're really lucky that your parents are even buying you a car, a brand new car for that sake.

this was what my parents handed down to me, i was thankful that my parents were the original buyers back in 88 and even let me get a license when i turned 16

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my parents have since upgraded me to their 96 toyota camry

 

[EKKC]

my parents give me birthday punches every year. every year i get more broken ribs. for that, i am thankful.

 

[IEC]

Personally, I'd be happy with ANY car to call my own. I'm in college and it's nice to have the mobility...

 

[Sdiver2489]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Sdiver2489

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: Sdiver2489

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo


I really hate threads like this.

You're an idiot, parents have no respect for kids anymore, they forgot what it's like to be a kid. My friends all drive nicer cars, why should I be stick in a corrolla?

ROFL. Please tell me my ****** sarcasm meter is broken... If my parents gave me something, and I didn't like it because my friends had something better, they'd beat my ass and let me continue walking for being such an ungrateful bitch.

That's child abuse. Did your parents also make you mow the lawn? Child labor. Mow dishes and take out trash? Child labor. You probably didn't even get minimum wage for chores.

Were your parents paying your cell phone bill? If not, you got an issue.

It's not easy being a kid, you've got to fight for your rights.

(For those who can't tell, I'm talking complete sh*t)

I agree with you 100%. When parents have their babies they should plan on providing a suitable vehicle when they learn to drive. A unreliable, unfashionable car is NOT adequet and frankly it pisses me off to see a kid that is forced by his parents hand me down into driving a oldsmobile. Parents simply have no respect for what their kids deserve anymore.

just my 5 cents

Exactly, I remember how we were giving Skoorb advice on starting a Nissan fund at his child's birth, I told him if it was a Nissan, a skyline R34 with money for upgrades is the minimum, or at least a 350z, who could be seen in anything less?

See, you have the right idea. A kid with an expensive car is a kid who will TAKE CARE of that car. If you give a kid some crappy buick, they are gonna trash it and wreck it.

Give the kid something he will love...like a Z4 or something and he will take care of it and learn to respect the car and be more aware of the drivers around him.

OP, I can't believe your parents are screwing you over like this. I would bitch at them until they give you what you deserve

EDIT: Here is me with the car my parents bought me when I turned 16 last year...It wasn't the color I wanted so I had my parents get it repainted

You too, Sdiver2489 (see my previous post).

Surely A peRson suCh As yourself can See through My deception

 

[b0mbrman]

Wait. Is this a parody?

 

[HiTek21]

I miss my first car. My old 87 Toyota Pick up 4 Speed MT. No Air, No Radio, No rear bumper, No Passenger side mirror. It got me to where I needed to go and I could haul stuff in the bed. We got it for $1000 and it ran like a champ.

 

[angminas]

I had one like that. I got a 1985 Ford Tempo with 53k miles for $1500. I should have held on to it and fixed it up when it started to get old instead of trading it in on that stupid Subaru. I don't miss the 800lb. clutch, though.

 

[kranky]

I give credit to the OP for following up on a thread where the comments were so harsh and posting the update even though it wasn't going to change anyone's opinion. A lot of people just bail when a thread turns south.

 

[angminas]

Agreed. There's hope for him yet.

 

[spaceman]

as long as it isn't Adam they'll be ok