My Prediction Regarding NVidia GTX-590

[Baasha]

Here is my prediction regarding the much-awaited NVidia GTX-590:

There is a rumor floating around that Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO of NVidia, is going to make an announcement during a promotional event on March 16th, 2011 regarding the GTX-590.

We already know that the second gameplay video of Battlefield 3 is going to be on March 16th, 2011 as well. Thus, I think the new gameplay video will use the GTX-590 and NVidia will showcase the capabilities of this card using BF3.

The card is supposed to go on sale on March 22nd, 2011 so it would make sense for NVidia to announce, confirm, and release the specifications of the card slightly before its release to ramp up the hype and hysteria among fans world over.

Of course, this is just my *prediction* so if it doesn't turn out to be the case, meh.

 

[Bateluer]

I predict it will be a massive die, require some kind of exotic cooling, pull around ~400W of power, and double as a space heater.

 

[Arkadrel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFp1aamKyM

Youtube video,
with a EA guy (Kevin O'Leary) showing off how beautifull Battlefield 3 looks with Eyefinity.

"we ve been working with AMD for quite sometime, early in development as well, on the Dx11 pre-pile?, is that you get to see it it and play it in real life, for example in multiplayer we had a couple of betas come out, and when your out there theres this really great ambience is in effect, and that is mostly due to the dx11, theres alot of great particals floating around, soft shadows comeing in, and as well as the mulitreading allows us to give the game better variety, quicker debt, and ofcourse in a FPS you always need really quick responces.. "

- me quoteing the video, from what I could make out.


Im not sure this title is gonna be a 590 launch thingy, I kinda suspect its being made to suit the 6990.

I think I remember reading something about HDR being done better on the 5xxx cards vs the 4xx cards because of differnt archs. I could be wrong again, but it looks like Battlefield has lots of that sort of stuff.

Even if the game looks to be beautifull, and reason to buy a monster like the 590, if it turns out it runs faster on a 6990, it would be a bad idea to use it on launch.


*edit:

If theres any game that d look good with 3 monitors, this looks to be the one.
Its probably also the best looking game of the year.



** edit2: about the Frostbite 2.0 Engine:

"Tile-based deferred shading acceleration" via DirectCompute. (not CUDA hehe)
Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation
Quasi-realtime radiosity. (probably want makes lighting look so good in it)

 

[FalseChristian]

Even better looking than Crysis 2 or GLQuake?

 

[Arkadrel]

@FalseChristian,

from what Ive seen of crysis2 so far with dx9, yes miles ahead of it.
Maybe things will be differnt when dx11 version comes out of crysis but I doubt it, it was made for the consols.

Battlefield 3 is a dx11 only game, so people will need windows 7 to play it, and a dx11 card.
It was made for PCs, and it shows.

 

[3DVagabond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFp1aamKyM

Youtube video,
with a EA guy (Kevin O'Leary) showing off how beautifull Battlefield 3 looks with Eyefinity.

- me quoteing the video, from what I could make out.


Im not sure this title is gonna be a 590 launch thingy, I kinda suspect its being made to suit the 6990.

I think I remember reading something about HDR being done better on the 5xxx cards vs the 4xx cards because of differnt archs. I could be wrong again, but it looks like Battlefield has lots of that sort of stuff.

Even if the game looks to be beautifull, and reason to buy a monster like the 590, if it turns out it runs faster on a 6990, it would be a bad idea to use it on launch.


*edit:

If theres any game that d look good with 3 monitors, this looks to be the one.
Its probably also the best looking game of the year.



** edit2: about the Frostbite 2.0 Engine:

"Tile-based deferred shading acceleration" via DirectCompute. (not CUDA hehe)
Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation
Quasi-realtime radiosity. (probably want makes lighting look so good in it)

Yeah, I'd say this pretty much blows the OP's prediction right out of the water.

Sorry, OP. Need to reconsider your strategy here. Sounds like AMD actually had a hand in coding this title. We'll get to see if they are truly playing hardball with nVidia if this one runs at 1/2 speed like DA2 does.

 

[raasco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFp1aamKyM

Youtube video,
with a EA guy (Kevin O'Leary) showing off how beautifull Battlefield 3 looks with Eyefinity.

- me quoteing the video, from what I could make out.


Im not sure this title is gonna be a 590 launch thingy, I kinda suspect its being made to suit the 6990.

I think I remember reading something about HDR being done better on the 5xxx cards vs the 4xx cards because of differnt archs. I could be wrong again, but it looks like Battlefield has lots of that sort of stuff.

Even if the game looks to be beautifull, and reason to buy a monster like the 590, if it turns out it runs faster on a 6990, it would be a bad idea to use it on launch.


*edit:

If theres any game that d look good with 3 monitors, this looks to be the one.
Its probably also the best looking game of the year.



** edit2: about the Frostbite 2.0 Engine:

"Tile-based deferred shading acceleration" via DirectCompute. (not CUDA hehe)
Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation
Quasi-realtime radiosity. (probably want makes lighting look so good in it)

That video is for Medal of Honor, not BF3. JS

 

[tincart]

Yeah, I'd say this pretty much blows the OP's prediction right out of the water.

Sorry, OP. Need to reconsider your strategy here. Sounds like AMD actually had a hand in coding this title. We'll get to see if they are truly playing hardball with nVidia if this one runs at 1/2 speed like DA2 does.

Didn't AMD have quite a large performance advantage in BF2 until some driver releases from nV changed things up?

 

[SlowSpyder]

I predict that they will not showcase the GTX590 with Dragon Age 2 using DX11, all setting maxed, and the high res texture pack.

 

[notty22]

Do we really have to follow the leader and hear about Dragon Age 2 issue in every thread ?
Maybe in comparing the new Geforce card against AMD's best we will see a demo of PhysX and 3d game play ? And maybe 8xAA in Starcraft 2. Extreme tessellation in Hawx 2 and Lost Planet 2 /sarcasm

 

[MentalIlness]

Do we really have to follow the leader and hear about Dragon Age 2 issue in every thread ?
Maybe in comparing the new Geforce card against AMD's best we will see a demo of PhysX and 3d game play ? And maybe 8xAA in Starcraft 2. Extreme tessellation in Hawx 2 and Lost Planet 2 /sarcasm

More than likely yes. Nvidia always show cases their new launch GPU's with games that favor Nvidia. Doesn't everybody ? So why shouldn't they now ? Isn't NV having problems right now with Dragon Age 2 ? Drivers ? Bad performance ? I only know what I read here on Anand forums. Whether it is true or not, is beyond me...hence my question.

And yes, I see your sarcasm.

 

[ramj70]

I predict the AMD and NVIDIA fanboys will continue their best schoolyard arguing, acting like their very lives depend on their favorite company being the top dog.

 

[Madcatatlas]

Those are facts ramj70, not predictions :\


IF Nvidia does pick a game to showcase the MIA 590, it will be a tesselation heavy game.

 

[Arkadrel]

Im guessing we ll see Nvidia 590 with Crysis 2 demo running Dx11.
(its probably to early for it, but it makes sense right? to use a game like that for its launch)

 

[badb0y]

Here's the kicker if DX 11 only works in Crysis 2 when there is an nVidia GPU lol.

 

[alcoholbob]

Here's the kicker if DX 11 only works in Crysis 2 when there is an nVidia GPU lol.

Vendor-lockout!

Revenge for sh!ty Dragon Age 2 performance.

 

[notty22]

Here's the kicker if DX 11 only works in Crysis 2 when there is an nVidia GPU lol.

Probably never happen, because public/consumer perception and view is important. Its why even both companies review guides aren't over the top. They want their product and practices to get positive reviews and feedback, trickles down to forums and is spread by the interwebs.
Now things like working with a developer and getting a good peek at the game code, and then releasing a new driver the day before launch, (while your past drivers, crash to desktop) is another possibility that could happen.

 

[SHAQ]

I predict it will be a massive die, require some kind of exotic cooling, pull around ~400W of power, and double as a space heater.

And what are the cons?

 

[Phynaz]

Do we really have to follow the leader and hear about Dragon Age 2 issue in every thread ?
Maybe in comparing the new Geforce card against AMD's best we will see a demo of PhysX and 3d game play ? And maybe 8xAA in Starcraft 2. Extreme tessellation in Hawx 2 and Lost Planet 2 /sarcasm

It's a joke, lighten up.

 

[Arkadrel]

And what are the cons?

Pros: Abit faster than a 6990, has physx,cuda.

Cons:
Its pricetag (Its bound to cost more than the 6990 by a good bit.)
Only 1.5gb ram pr GPU (vs 6990 2gb pr gpu)
(unless it comes with 3gb pr gpu version, 6gb total)

Why will it cost more?
chip silicon sizes are bigger 2x389mm^2 vs 2x520mm^2 (33% chip die differnce)
It ll probably draw more power(580>6970 powerdraw), which means hotter, which means needs bigger cooling solution (which costs more).



My Prediction... ~950$ for the 590, and about...5%-10% faster than the 6990.
(after haveing seen Castiels thread, Im no longer conviced the 590 will be faster at stock, than a stock 6990)

 

[MentalIlness]

My prediction

Its going to be dual-gpus smashed on one card like the HD 6990.
Its going to use a lot of power like the HD 6990.
It will be a few percent slower than 580 SLI, since SLI is usually faster when not on a stick. Like the HD 6990.
It will be "very" expensive like the HD 6990.
It will only be purchased by enthusiasts, just like the 6990.

 

[MentalIlness]

Here's the kicker if DX 11 only works in Crysis 2 when there is an nVidia GPU lol.

Probably never happen, because public/consumer perception and view is important. Its why even both companies review guides aren't over the top. They want their product and practices to get positive reviews and feedback, trickles down to forums and is spread by the interwebs.
Now things like working with a developer and getting a good peek at the game code, and then releasing a new driver the day before launch, (while your past drivers, crash to desktop) is another possibility that could happen.

You post some sarcasm, but yet your sarcasm meter is broken ?

I dont think he was serious. But if he was, well I just dont think it would happen. At all. Heck, the 5000 / 400 series cards are DX11. They been out what ? Over a year for AMD and about a year for Nvidia ? There is no way they would do this.

Of course, whoever consolized Crysis 2, just needs slapped.

 

[Baasha]

My Prediction... ~950$ for the 590, and about...5%-10% faster than the 6990.

There is no way in hell the 590 will be that costly. It'll be between $650-750 tops for the reference card. Perhaps Asus' version with the Direct CU II might hit $900+ but it would be highly foolish for a reference card to be priced so high especially when its competitor is priced around $700. Price difference should be around +/- 10% of the 6990.

 

[Baasha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFp1aamKyM

Youtube video,
with a EA guy (Kevin O'Leary) showing off how beautifull Battlefield 3 looks with Eyefinity.

- me quoteing the video, from what I could make out.


Im not sure this title is gonna be a 590 launch thingy, I kinda suspect its being made to suit the 6990.

I think I remember reading something about HDR being done better on the 5xxx cards vs the 4xx cards because of differnt archs. I could be wrong again, but it looks like Battlefield has lots of that sort of stuff.

Even if the game looks to be beautifull, and reason to buy a monster like the 590, if it turns out it runs faster on a 6990, it would be a bad idea to use it on launch.


*edit:

If theres any game that d look good with 3 monitors, this looks to be the one.
Its probably also the best looking game of the year.



** edit2: about the Frostbite 2.0 Engine:

"Tile-based deferred shading acceleration" via DirectCompute. (not CUDA hehe)
Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA), again implemented with DirectCompute, for bandwidth conservation
Quasi-realtime radiosity. (probably want makes lighting look so good in it)

That video is about Medal of Honor, not Battlefield 3.

Ultimately, it comes down to the results between the AMD 6990 CrossFire and the NVidia GTX-590 SLI. The results of those combination(s) are what I am anxiously waiting for. The AMD 6990 CrossFire is already out so we'll have to see how it compares to the GTX-590 SLI.

 

[mnewsham]

There is no way in hell the 590 will be that costly. It'll be between $650-750 tops for the reference card. Perhaps Asus' version with the Direct CU II might hit $900+ but it would be highly foolish for a reference card to be priced so high especially when its competitor is priced around $700. Price difference should be around +/- 10% of the 6990.

GTX 580 was $500 the HD 6970 was about $400 (being generous) that is a 25% difference in price.
The HD 6990 is $700 so 25% difference is $175, making an estimated $875 for the GTX 590. So my guess is $850-899