My radeon hd 6670 is bottlenecked. Anything i can do without buying a new cpu?

[DominionSeraph]

Use driversweeper and try again.
You are using the latest drivers, right?

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

Use driversweeper and try again.
You are using the latest drivers, right?

yup.... ill try using driversweep this time. hold on, ill start doing it now..

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

great, now amd catalyst doesnt wont install.... It says it installed but it didnt..

edit: ommmgg whats going on?! i tried reinstalling again then when i booted my pc back on from the reboot my usb keyboard, mouse, and usb drives dont work! whats happening? i hope this isnt anything serious.. (im on my laptop right now because i cant get my desktop to work now)

 

[blckgrffn]

Well, maybe this was a power supply issue all along?

Did driversweeper nuke all the chipset drivers? Hopefully not...

I agree w/others in this thread - the 6670 should have been DDR5 only, the 6570 DDR3 only. The core clock difference makes such a minimal difference compared to halving the memory bandwidth. Allowing vendors to mix and math memory with those SKUs is just dumb.

See also: DDR3 GTS450.

 

[formulav8]

great, now amd catalyst doesnt wont install.... It says it installed but it didnt..

edit: ommmgg whats going on?! i tried reinstalling again then when i booted my pc back on from the reboot my usb keyboard, mouse, and usb drives dont work! whats happening? i hope this isnt anything serious.. (im on my laptop right now because i cant get my desktop to work now)

You need to do a system restore of windows if everything failed after running driver sweeper. Also you should have only had Driver Sweeper uninstall the ati/amd video drivers only and not remove the ati/amd chipset drivers. At least, thats what it seems like has happened.

 

[cebalrai]

Catalyst does this for me sometimes. Here's how I fix it.

1) Uninstall the catalyst driver with driver sweeper.
2) Go to C:/ATI and delete it
3) Go to C:/Program Files (x86) and delete everything that says ATI
4) Run the CCleaner utility registry cleaner
5) Reinstall the Catalyst driver

At this point you may want to uninstall/reinstall your chipset driver as well.

 

[Chiropteran]

and by the way, i was told at tomshardware by someone that getting dual channel for my ram (ive got one 4gb stick) will boost my fps quiet a bit and reduce my bottleneck. Is that true? i was also told by a friend that getting a sound card should reduce the bottleneck too.

Fix that immediately. Your memory bandwidth is cut in half by using a single stick, and RAM is dirt cheap anyway so no reason to skimp on it.

 

[polyzp]

I highly doubt the 6670 is being bottle necked, but then again it is dual core, and quad core is really the standard these days. But I am pretty sure that when core 2 duo was the bestm that the best graphics card was about as good as a 6670 (was it a 8800 Ultra?)

 

[blckgrffn]

I highly doubt the 6670 is being bottle necked, but then again it is dual core, and quad core is really the standard these days. But I am pretty sure that when core 2 duo was the bestm that the best graphics card was about as good as a 6670 (was it a 8800 Ultra?)

Well, games like Deus Ex and BF3 are thread bound to some degree - and we haven't heard what games are the issue for the OP, I don't think.

Then again he seems to have other issues now

 

[polyzp]

BF3 actually performs well most CPUS, with less than 5% discrepancy.

 

[blckgrffn]

BF3 actually performs well most CPUS, with less than 5% discrepancy.

Please, oh please, put that Tom's benchmark up ONE MORE TIME.

Consensus by actual players is that if you don't want to be stuttering like a mad man in BF3 multiplayer you want lots of threads. Six to Eight, as a matter of fact. The 2500k seems to pull it off through sheer force.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Please, oh please, put that Tom's benchmark up ONE MORE TIME.

Consensus by actual players is that if you don't want to be stuttering like a mad man in BF3 multiplayer you want lots of threads. Six to Eight, as a matter of fact. The 2500k seems to pull it off through sheer force.

This.

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

Ah okay guys, i fixed the usb issue last night before i went to bed. I figured out theres system restore by pressing f11 at bootup.

and well, for driversweeper all i did was put a check on amd display and clicked clean. rebooted, then installed the drivers. i checked if catalyst was working and it wasnt installing so i clicked the uninstall software button and rebooted so i could try and reinstall it. Then thats when the usb issue happened.

edit: ugh, i cant get catalyst working... it keeps saying theres no settings... -.-
edit 2: i had to do system restore aggain and it kept saying system restored failed... finally got a working restore point though..

so any more ideas guys?

 

[stylez777]

Did you try using the AMD driver autodetect to make sure it is downloading the correct drivers you need?

It sounds like your Video could be the main culprit but you cannot be sure or torubleshoot anyhting else until you get the drivers installed 100% correctly. Where did you get this PC from? did you buy it form a store? Do they have any tech support you can contact?

 

[fuzzymath10]

Sometimes the easiest way to get rid of lag is reformat (or install on a spare disk), depending on when the last time that happened was. Is that an option?

 

[sm625]

Get two identical sticks of RAM. Download and run CPUID's PC Wizard and run the cpu and memory benchmarks. I have an E6600 conroe system that is just about the same performance as yours. A little slower, but more cache. Here are the benchmarks for it.

 

[KingFatty]

Try booting into safe mode (I think you press one of the F# keys during bootup to see the menu to safemode windows).

Then look to see what things are listed in device manager. I wonder if your video card is listed multiple times and your computer is confused?

So, try this:

1) boot into safe mode
2) uninstall all AMD stuff (express unistall)
3) reboot and go into safe mode again
4) go into device manager and delete all the display adapters (mental note whether more than one is listed and if it's the correct one for your card)
5) reboot normally
6) right-click on the AMD installer EXE file you saved in a convenient location, and select "Run as Administrator" to install the drivers
7) after successful installation, reboot normally

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

Did you try using the AMD driver autodetect to make sure it is downloading the correct drivers you need?

It sounds like your Video could be the main culprit but you cannot be sure or torubleshoot anyhting else until you get the drivers installed 100% correctly. Where did you get this PC from? did you buy it form a store? Do they have any tech support you can contact?

i bought the PC as a HP Pavilion P6823w and just stuck a new psu, a 6670, and a new case. When i bought the PC i was hoping id just be able to upgrade the gpu and id be fine, but that wasnt the case. I soon learned about everything... I was led to believe dual cores are completly fine because theres not many games that use quad and the athlon is no different from the phenom..

Try booting into safe mode (I think you press one of the F# keys during bootup to see the menu to safemode windows).

Then look to see what things are listed in device manager. I wonder if your video card is listed multiple times and your computer is confused?

So, try this:

1) boot into safe mode
2) uninstall all AMD stuff (express unistall)
3) reboot and go into safe mode again
4) go into device manager and delete all the display adapters (mental note whether more than one is listed and if it's the correct one for your card)
5) reboot normally
6) right-click on the AMD installer EXE file you saved in a convenient location, and select "Run as Administrator" to install the drivers
7) after successful installation, reboot normally

tried that before, it didnt work...

@sm625

i got that. that wasnt with two identical sticks of ram though because i dont have any right now... thats just with the 1 stick of ram that came with the PC.

 

[stylez777]

I can make a suggestion up to you if you wish to try it...

You could backup and loseable data and wipe your drive and do a fresh install of Windows. I know it is tedious and sucky but atleast you'll have a fresh start and you can install your AMD drivers fresh and it should work.

If you do this and the drivers install 100% fine and you still get the stutering issue then you can move on to troubleshoot in other areas. Just some food for thought.

I highly doubt it is your CPU unless it is malfunctioning somehow. I had a Phenom II x2 550 and that thing would run any game on the market with no issues at all (granted I had a 5850 video card which helped a lot)

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

I can make a suggestion up to you if you wish to try it...

You could backup and loseable data and wipe your drive and do a fresh install of Windows. I know it is tedious and sucky but atleast you'll have a fresh start and you can install your AMD drivers fresh and it should work.

If you do this and the drivers install 100% fine and you still get the stutering issue then you can move on to troubleshoot in other areas. Just some food for thought.

I highly doubt it is your CPU unless it is malfunctioning somehow. I had a Phenom II x2 550 and that thing would run any game on the market with no issues at all (granted I had a 5850 video card which helped a lot)

I was told that the L3 Cache on the Phenom helps for gaming... and ehhh i dont know if i wanna wipe my harddrive. The drivers installed completly fine, its just the software thats giving me a problem.

and btw, even if getting dual channel for my ram doesnt help, im still kind of thinking about just upgrading to 8gb.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=20-231-422

or one of these?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231461
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145345

does it matter which one i get? Is paying the extra $ worth it for one of those 3?

 

[stylez777]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=20-231-422 or one of these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145345 does it matter which one i get?

For those prices you can get better I'd go with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231440
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231402

just check to see if your motherbaord supports the 1.5v setting in the bios.

 

[blckgrffn]

For those prices you can get better I'd go with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231440
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231402

just check to see if your motherbaord supports the 1.5v setting in the bios.

That corsair for $28 AMIR trumps the g.skill in my book Its about half the price! You'r better off put that $20 in your pocket, OP.

IMHO, of course

 

[Jdm13oiZz]

oh, i found some memory upgrade info for my motherboard....

Memory upgrade information

-Dual channel memory architecture

-Four DDR3 DIMMs (240-pin) sockets

-PC3-8500 (DDR3-1066)

-PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333)

-Non-ECC memory only, unbuffered

-Supports 1GB, 2GB, and 4GB DDR3 DIMMs

-Supports up to 16 GB on 64-bit systems

-Supports up to 4 GB on 32-bit PCs
*32-bit PCs cannot address a full 4.0 GB of memory. (i got 64bit so im good)

edit: nvm screw the ram, ill just save for a new processor, i feel like its more worth it than buying ram.. this one is perfect for my pc cause of the max tdp of 95watt for my motherboard and because it can unlock to a 6core. eventually when i get a new motherboard i can always just stick this processor in and hopefully end up seeing 6 cores when i try to unlock it. Even if it doesnt unlock, i may give overclocking a shot. ive seen many people were able to overclock this to 4.1ghz for 4 cores. (3.5ghz OC for 6cores)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo its not that much, and if i wait a bit i bet i can get it on sale .

 

[tweakboy]

I doubt it you have a very low budget video card. Your 6670 is not a bottleneck to much, unless you have a 6870. A 6870 would probably not work with your rig. gl

Why don't you collect your money and buy a Ivy Bridge with a 6870 ,

What exactly are you trying to do. That 6770 ,,, That is a good card for your setup. Now wait until 2013 Haswell and push the upgrade button my friend..

 

[Chiropteran]

Ram is incredibly cheap and you will almost certainly use it on your new system, I'd just buy an 8 GB (2X4gb)kit and go with it.