Originally posted by: Mucho
Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.
I am almost certain you can get a ticket in Toronto for doing that.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
And something tells me this idiot will then lie to the insurance company as to how the car was stolen.
This morning when driving my son to school in my little Oregon town I counted three cars out idling without drivers. This includes my neighbor, the nurse who moved up here form Arizona, who lets her 2001 Mustang convertible warm-up for ten minutes ON THE STREET every morning, and a prison guard (came out in uniform as I was driving back).Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
That's a REALLY dumb thing to do, ANYWHERE.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
it's also ILLEGAL in a lot of places.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
I leave my car idling in the driveway, but I lock it and then use my spare key to unlock it when I get in. The fact that its a stick makes it a lot less likely to be stolen as they'd probably kill it getting into 1st, but still, better safe than sorry.
Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: geno
how long do you need to let an engine warm up for? cripes 2 minutes max is all you need
I'd imagine it'd be more to let the car (i.e. cabin/heater) warm up than the engine, which at most--I've heard--requires about 15 seconds.
Originally posted by: Ime
Does she also leave her kids locked in the car during the summer while she goes shopping?
Geez, if I ever caught my wife doing this I'd take away her keys!
Of course, we live in Georgia and park in a garage so it's not like we need to warm up the cabin any.
Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.
Originally posted by: Looney
LOL i've been doing it for years up here in Canada. In the winter like now, i always let it warm up for 10mins before getting in.
I thought about getting The Club, or a remote car starter... just too lazy.
Anyways, i bet it was just some kids joyriding.
that's where I lived... Plainview... but this happened a few years ago. Climbed the backyard fence and they shattered the sliding glass door... our "yappy" dog was unharmed but they took items for money anyway. I swear they watched us leave our home for some time before that. Cops said there was another house break-in a few blocks away that day too.Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: rh71
:thumbsup: I don't care how safe you think your neighborhood is.Originally posted by: BigJ
Wow that was dumb. If you do that, at the very least lock your doors and use your spare key to open it.
Besides, if I was a cold-hearted criminal witnessing this everyday, it's not so hard to pick a time to swipe the car. Our "safe neighborhood" home got broken into during the only 2 hours of the entire day nobody's home. It happens because someone probably staked out the routine...
I remember they hit Plainview with the home invasions a few months ago (October I think). One of the nicest neighborhoods around with an avg income of $90,000+, and yet crime still occurs there.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.
How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.
Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.
She HANDED the car away. She left it unattend, unlocked, and running in the driveway with the KEYS in it. Tell me why the insurance company should be held responsible to pay for someone else's complete lack of responsibility and judgement?
Unless there is a clause on the insurance, I don't see how it wouldn't be covered under being stolen.
If they cover it I am fine with that as long as she tells the truth as to the consequences of the theft. People in the northern climates should simply use block heaters on timers. They make some good ones that are basically an electrical water heater element that goes in place of a freeze plug. You can set it to come on automatically and heat the engine water up to any preset temperature you like. This way it is all taken care of for you. You simply unplug the car from the extension cord in the morning, get in and start it, and drive away with the heater already warm enough to function.
And even stupider if you don't.Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.
How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.
Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.
She HANDED the car away. She left it unattend, unlocked, and running in the driveway with the KEYS in it. Tell me why the insurance company should be held responsible to pay for someone else's complete lack of responsibility and judgement?
Unless there is a clause on the insurance, I don't see how it wouldn't be covered under being stolen.
If they cover it I am fine with that as long as she tells the truth as to the consequences of the theft. People in the northern climates should simply use block heaters on timers. They make some good ones that are basically an electrical water heater element that goes in place of a freeze plug. You can set it to come on automatically and heat the engine water up to any preset temperature you like. This way it is all taken care of for you. You simply unplug the car from the extension cord in the morning, get in and start it, and drive away with the heater already warm enough to function.
She rents the house. No garage. It is still trespass on to the property and grand theft. Not like leaving a bike unlocked in front of the public library. It is sad when we have to assume the worst in people and lock everything down.
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: Ime
Does she also leave her kids locked in the car during the summer while she goes shopping?
Geez, if I ever caught my wife doing this I'd take away her keys!
Of course, we live in Georgia and park in a garage so it's not like we need to warm up the cabin any.
She warms it up a bit, puts the kids in, then goes back thru the house to make sure lights are off etc. The kids, are usually locked in the car for a few minutes but yesterday they followed their mom around the house instead. She rents the house. No garage.
Originally posted by: talyn00
Isn't it a bad idea to leave your kids in car with the engine running? One of them could take it for a joy ride
Originally posted by: Superself
Always get a remote start system installed.
I use an Avital alarm system with remote start.
Would be very hard to steal a car that shuts off when you put your foot on the brake pedal when no key is in the ignition.
Get the top of the line from one of these companies....
Originally posted by: Gibson486
I used to live in Lowell, ma and I used to leave my Eclipse idle in the driveway all the time. It was never stolen. Whoever says she is an idiot needs a reality check.
Originally posted by: IrocZman223
I haven't read the entire thread, but do all of you live on the west coast? I live in Indiana and you HAVE to let your car warm up this time of year. Often it is entirely too cold to sit in your vehicle for 10-15 minutes while the ice and everything else melts off your car while it warms up enough to drive.
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IrocZman223
I haven't read the entire thread, but do all of you live on the west coast? I live in Indiana and you HAVE to let your car warm up this time of year. Often it is entirely too cold to sit in your vehicle for 10-15 minutes while the ice and everything else melts off your car while it warms up enough to drive.
I live south of Omaha, and everyone I know around here scrapes the ice off with an ice scraper after they start the car. Seems silly to just sit there until the defroster melts everything.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.
I wish I was born Canadian.
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IrocZman223
I haven't read the entire thread, but do all of you live on the west coast? I live in Indiana and you HAVE to let your car warm up this time of year. Often it is entirely too cold to sit in your vehicle for 10-15 minutes while the ice and everything else melts off your car while it warms up enough to drive.
I live south of Omaha, and everyone I know around here scrapes the ice off with an ice scraper after they start the car. Seems silly to just sit there until the defroster melts everything.
I live in Central Ohio... I usually start the car and scrape the ice off of it, and then go back inside the house or whatever for another 5-10 minutes, while the car warms up. My car runs like *crap* if it is cold.
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: talyn00
Isn't it a bad idea to leave your kids in car with the engine running? One of them could take it for a joy ride
The biggest problem is that kids get stolen with cars. It happens a lot. Usually the kids are dumped off someplace away from home and not killed but still....
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
That's a REALLY dumb thing to do, ANYWHERE.
it's also ILLEGAL in a lot of places.
Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.