My sister-in-law had her Jeep Cherokee stolen this morning.

[Ornery]

...not really that good for the motor...

Pfft, My vehicles exist for MY benefit, not the other way around. Been driving well used cars for over 30 years. Drive 'em till the wheels are square, never sell them. I've never had one give up the ghost because of the engine.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.

Doesn't sound like car theft is very rampant where this happened... but of course that was a not-so-subtle jab at the U.S. Silly Canadians (or transplanted Europeans as the case may be), I don't know why it's so hard for you to get over being inferior to us.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.

Doesn't sound like car theft is very rampant where this happened... but of course that was a not-so-subtle jab at the U.S. Silly Canadians (or transplanted Europeans as the case may be), I don't know why it's so hard for you to get over being inferior to us.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Looney]

LOL i've been doing it for years up here in Canada. In the winter like now, i always let it warm up for 10mins before getting in.

I thought about getting The Club, or a remote car starter... just too lazy.

Anyways, i bet it was just some kids joyriding.

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.

Well it doesn't really apply for us Torontonians.

 

[aphex]

I :heart: my Viper 561xv Remote Start....

 

[getbush]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: geno
how long do you need to let an engine warm up for? cripes 2 minutes max is all you need

I'd imagine it'd be more to let the car (i.e. cabin/heater) warm up than the engine, which at most--I've heard--requires about 15 seconds.

Did you mean 15 minutes not seconds? You would need some gas and a torch to warm up the interior of a car in 15 seconds on most michigan winter mornings.

 

[villageidiot111]

Originally posted by: geno
how long do you need to let an engine warm up for? cripes 2 minutes max is all you need

Well, considering how close she is to Canada, its safe to assume it is very cold this time of year. She was probably warming it up for her benefit, not the cars. It can take up to ten minutes for a car to warm up decently.

 

[Rastus]

Here in Wyoming, if you leave your car idling in the winter without it being locked, you can get a ticket. Cops call cars idling like that "huffers". A lot of people do it and some cars get stolen that way. BTW, temps will get to -40 here and sometimes a car needs twenty minutes to warm up or they run really bad.

 

[KK]

I'd leave my vehicle idle in my driveway without fear of someone taking it. Now if I lived somewhere like in a city, I'd probably wouldn't. This is one of the many benefits of living in a rural settings versus a crime infested city.

 

[her209]

I let my car idle but I lock the doors.

 

[xgsound]

Originally posted by: brigden
Don't listen to these jaded morons. In Canada, people leave their cars idling without fear because we don't need to fear rampant car theft.

In Canada in Feb. you have to let it run for 10 minutes so it gets warm enough to turn the Oil light off and the frost from the inside of the windshield, so that doesn't count.


Jim

 

[Ronstang]

I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.

 

[MX2]

Originally posted by: her209
I let my car idle but I lock the doors.

Smashing a window isnt too difficult you know

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.

How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.

Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.

 

[montanafan]

I let my car idle in the driveway on cold mornings to warm up the interior and melt the frost on the windshield. I live in a rural area though and can't remember the last time someone had a car stolen around here.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.

How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.

Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.

She HANDED the car away. She left it unattend, unlocked, and running in the driveway with the KEYS in it. Tell me why the insurance company should be held responsible to pay for someone else's complete lack of responsibility and judgement?

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.

How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.

Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.

She HANDED the car away. She left it unattend, unlocked, and running in the driveway with the KEYS in it. Tell me why the insurance company should be held responsible to pay for someone else's complete lack of responsibility and judgement?

Unless there is a clause on the insurance, I don't see how it wouldn't be covered under being stolen.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I am going to touch on this point again. What is she going to tell the insurance company? Is she even going to call them? She shouldn't as she simply gave her car away and should be responsible for paying for the replacement. I still say she will lie to the insurance company.

How is it not stolen. Just because it was stupid of her doesn't mean it wasn't stolen.

Like christmas decorations. Teenage kids love going around stealing them for no good reason. Oh no, that means it wasn't theft, those idiots should have had those things bolted down and chained to support beams.

She HANDED the car away. She left it unattend, unlocked, and running in the driveway with the KEYS in it. Tell me why the insurance company should be held responsible to pay for someone else's complete lack of responsibility and judgement?

Unless there is a clause on the insurance, I don't see how it wouldn't be covered under being stolen.

If they cover it I am fine with that as long as she tells the truth as to the consequences of the theft. People in the northern climates should simply use block heaters on timers. They make some good ones that are basically an electrical water heater element that goes in place of a freeze plug. You can set it to come on automatically and heat the engine water up to any preset temperature you like. This way it is all taken care of for you. You simply unplug the car from the extension cord in the morning, get in and start it, and drive away with the heater already warm enough to function.

 

[montanafan]

Yeah, and what about all those idiots letting their kids play in their yards unattended and then complaining about it when a child molester comes along and grabs one of them.

I understand what you're saying, but the car was stolen. This was a crime. Sure, she made it easy for them, but she didn't commit a crime. She paid her insurance premiums and this is what she paid for, to be compensated in the event of a crime.

 

[m2kewl]

buhahaha. women, can't live without them - can't kill'em

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: montanafan
Yeah, and what about all those idiots letting their kids play in their yards unattended and then complaining about it when a child molester comes along and grabs one of them.

I understand what you're saying, but the car was stolen. This was a crime. Sure, she made it easy for them, but she didn't commit a crime. She paid her insurance premiums and this is what she paid for, to be compensated in the event of a crime.

Maybe so but I have friends that work for insurance companies and from the company's opinion you have a responsibility to secure you property as best as possible as part of the contract in a lot of cases. It may be in the fine print and it may not. I do not know. But the insurance company should be told the truth and then see what happens.

 

[RebelDog]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: geno
how long do you need to let an engine warm up for? cripes 2 minutes max is all you need

This is on really cold days, like you'd get outside of SoCal. If the car has half an inch of ice on the windshield, you'll freeze to death before scrapping it off. Best to let the car run for a while to soften it up.

that's not really that good for the motor...

ummmm... i'm not a car expert by any means but I do wonder how idling at, say, 1400 rpm for 1/2 hour can be any worse then cruising at 50 mph at, say, 2900 rpm for 1/2 hour???? just my $.02 worth

 

[montanafan]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: montanafan
Yeah, and what about all those idiots letting their kids play in their yards unattended and then complaining about it when a child molester comes along and grabs one of them.

I understand what you're saying, but the car was stolen. This was a crime. Sure, she made it easy for them, but she didn't commit a crime. She paid her insurance premiums and this is what she paid for, to be compensated in the event of a crime.

Maybe so but I have friends that work for insurance companies and from the company's opinion you have a responsibility to secure you property as best as possible as part of the contract in a lot of cases. It may be in the fine print and it may not. I do not know. But the insurance company should be told the truth and then see what happens.

Oh I definitely agree that she should tell the truth about leaving it idling and I also agree that the insurance company should have the right to require policyholders to act in a responsible manner and take reasonable measures to protect what's being insured.

If she had left the car idling in front of the local 7-11 while she went in to get a cup of coffee I would be more likely to agree with you that the insurance company should either not have to pay or hold her partially responsible and only pay a percentage. But I think that a person should have a reasonable expectation of some security in their own home and driveway. It would be a really sad state of affairs if we were required to give that up completely.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: MX2times

Originally posted by: her209
I let my car idle but I lock the doors.

Smashing a window isnt too difficult you know

And somehow that won't help a theif if the car isn't running, but will help if it is?